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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2175 on: December 13, 2023, 11:49:52 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:47:00 AM
If he’s “reverted,” how is he 2nd in the league in adjusted pass completion? He was one first by a mile?

Did he maybe have a notable game in there where he completed like, 15 passes at or behind the LOS that might bump up his completion numbers without actually being very productive?  Spit balling here.

If he’s been so good, why do his numbers look so mediocre?  If coming into this season I said “he’s going to play 17 games and complete 66% of his passes for 3200 yards, 10 TD and 5 INT” would you be like wow that sounds like he’s really improved?
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« Reply #2176 on: December 13, 2023, 11:51:42 AM »
I don’t just look at stats. They don’t always tell the whole story.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2177 on: December 13, 2023, 11:53:06 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 11:49:52 AM
Did he maybe have a notable game in there where he completed like, 15 passes at or behind the LOS that might bump up his completion numbers without actually being very productive?  Spit balling here.

If he’s been so good, why do his numbers look so mediocre?  If coming into this season I said “he’s going to play 17 games and complete 66% of his passes for 3200 yards, 10 TD and 5 INT” would you be like wow that sounds like he’s really improved?

Where are you getting those numbers from?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2178 on: December 13, 2023, 11:54:23 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:51:42 AM
I don’t just look at stats. They don’t always tell the whole story.

Well yes you do.  You’re trying to use a stat literally right this second to make a point. 

You don’t acknowledge stats that contradict your pre existing opinion.
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« Reply #2179 on: December 13, 2023, 11:54:37 AM »
When I see passing stats they don’t say things like Dante Pettis, Byron Pringle, NKeal Harry, Lucas Patrick etc
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2180 on: December 13, 2023, 11:55:11 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:53:06 AM
Where are you getting those numbers from?

It’s his numbers since the Commanders game - which you’re saying is much improved passing - extrapolated over a 17 game season.  If he was as productive as he’s been since Washington and stayed healthy for 17 games, those would be his passing numbers.
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« Reply #2181 on: December 13, 2023, 11:55:44 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 11:54:23 AM
Well yes you do.  You’re trying to use a stat literally right this second to make a point. 

You don’t acknowledge stats that contradict your pre existing opinion.

I sometimes refer to stats. Often to shoot down questionable narratives. I don’t rely solely on stats to make my case.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2182 on: December 13, 2023, 11:56:19 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:54:37 AM
When I see passing stats they don’t say things like Dante Pettis, Byron Pringle, NKeal Harry, Lucas Patrick etc

But YOUR passing stats are valid and show clear evidence of a big improvement.  Adjusted completion, that’s the one that counts most.
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« Reply #2183 on: December 13, 2023, 11:56:48 AM »
Where is the stat that says Cole Kmet ran the route with no urgency and fell back?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2184 on: December 13, 2023, 11:57:57 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:55:44 AM
I sometimes refer to stats. Often to shoot down questionable narratives. I don’t rely solely on stats to make my case.

You’ve probably posted 5-7 tweets in the last two days with some stat trying to make your point.

You don’t like stats when they contradict you.  When they confirm your bias you accept them regardless of how the game actually looked (ie, ignore that lucky ass TD drive last game, ignore the game where he completed most of his passes at or behind the LOS, etc)
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« Reply #2185 on: December 13, 2023, 11:58:05 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 11:56:19 AM
But YOUR passing stats are valid and show clear evidence of a big improvement.  Adjusted completion, that’s the one that counts most.

They contradict your narrative that there’s no discernible improvement. Better passer rating than Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence this year.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2186 on: December 13, 2023, 11:58:56 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:56:48 AM
Where is the stat that says Cole Kmet ran the route with no urgency and fell back?

The same place as the one that shows the Lions jumping on the worst defensive play of the year and gifting the Bears a TD - half of Fields’ passing TD total since the Washington game.
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« Reply #2187 on: December 13, 2023, 11:59:15 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 11:57:57 AM
You’ve probably posted 5-7 tweets in the last two days with some stat trying to make your point.

You don’t like stats when they contradict you.  When they confirm your bias you accept them regardless of how the game actually looked (ie, ignore that lucky ass TD drive last game, ignore the game where he completed most of his passes at or behind the LOS, etc)

Cuz you’re in the stat biz. Thought you’d like them.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2188 on: December 13, 2023, 11:59:37 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 13, 2023, 11:59:15 AM
Cuz you’re in the stat biz. Thought you’d like them.

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« Reply #2189 on: December 13, 2023, 12:00:16 PM »
Justin was horrendous the first 3 games, no doubt. He’s been better since. And yes, peaked weeks 4 and 5. But better since.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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