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THE JFC Thread!

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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1800 on: December 11, 2023, 09:12:30 PM »
This post gets the subject wrong, and the point. Well done!

You're the idiot who said yesterday was his floor when we have seen him completely.suck ass, even this year, instead of be barely mediocre like he was yesterday.
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« Reply #1801 on: December 11, 2023, 09:13:03 PM »
David, Derek, Vicki, no one is clamoring for a Carr or someone with Carr-like numbers.

And no one attempted to make the case that anyone was. Read the thread.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1802 on: December 11, 2023, 09:13:39 PM »
You're the idiot who said yesterday was his floor when we have seen him completely.suck ass, even this year, instead of be barely mediocre like he was yesterday.

Lol
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1803 on: December 11, 2023, 09:15:21 PM »
And no one attempted to make the case that anyone was. Read the thread.

You have compared his numbers to a Carr. No one wants either one of the Carrs or anyone else with those numbers.
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« Reply #1804 on: December 11, 2023, 09:16:09 PM »
Lol

That's why I was laughing. It was so stupid of you to actually argue.
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« Reply #1805 on: December 11, 2023, 09:17:02 PM »
After all the years of Tempo mocking Spark for Trubisky,  revenge is a dish best served cold.
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« Reply #1806 on: December 11, 2023, 09:31:04 PM »
After all the years of Tempo mocking Spark for Trubisky,  revenge is a dish best served cold.

Yep
Fucking coward. Don’t fucking snipe me you fucking…KIKE BITCH! - Meyers Leonard
Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock. Priorities?!

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« Reply #1807 on: December 11, 2023, 09:45:57 PM »
You have compared his numbers to a Carr. No one wants either one of the Carrs or anyone else with those numbers.

Context is everything. To PAMan, it means nothing.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1808 on: December 11, 2023, 09:51:53 PM »
Context is everything. To PAMan, it means nothing.

No one wants a QB with those numbers.
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« Reply #1809 on: December 11, 2023, 09:52:25 PM »
I decided if I wanted to speak with any sort of authority on any of these QB prospects, I better at least watch some of their game tape so watching the every Caleb Williams play highlights of USC/Washington (going to do Notre Dame next, wanted to see one of his best games and one of his worst).

I gotta say, the good is ... pretty spectacular.  It's not hard to see watching him what would be exciting to an NFL team.  Not saying he will be as good as either of these guys necessarily, obviously college shit will not translate to the NFL necessarily (there were 2-3 plays on it that he makes that he would probably need to cut to be effective in the NFL), but his STYLE of play reminds me of Aaron Rodgers (can make quick decisive throws, but if it's not there can effectively improvise and make plays throwing the ball) mixed with the shiftiness of Justin Fields on the ground (Williams made a couple guys look absolutely fucking silly with his legs, both behind and in front of the LOS.  if you haven't seen it check out the sideline spin move he hits in this game, absolutely absurd).

Will watch the "bad" now and see how bad it is.

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« Reply #1810 on: December 11, 2023, 10:11:25 PM »
Notre Dame game:

The first pick happens right away, I think his second or third passing attempt.  It was a bad throw, a matter of balance - he's moving backwards off balance and tries to float one, floats it over his guy's head.  Pretty bad, a mental error as much as a physical one IMO.  If he plants his back foot this is probably a completion.

ND seems like they spend a lot of time in the backfield (frankly Washington did too, but he got rid of it much quicker).  He's still electric with his legs and has made a couple plays out of nothing at all, but ND did a better job than Washington did containing his running game.

He probably has a long "time to throw" metric based on these games, but part of it is that he seems to have really good understanding of where the pocket is - there are times when one side of the line is beaten, but he instinctively has drifted into the open space away from them.

Just saw a 3rd down late in the third quarter deep in ND territory that probably should've been a TD but his pass didn't have enough zip on it and the dude got blown up before he could get around the corner.

Second pick is with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter deep in his own territory.  Pocket collapses and he makes another dumb decision, trying to throw into a tiny window off-balance (looked like he maybe slipped a little?  it was an absolute prayer in any circumstance, terrible decision).

Just saw the third one.  3:35 left in the second quarter.  Just trying to make too much happen honestly.  Pressure coming from the corners, the pocket breaks down, he breaks out to his left and tries to make a cross-body throw.  The last two of them were like, "i CAN make miracle plays, so I'm sure I can make THIS miracle play" type decisions.  Seems like he will probably need to learn when to throw the ball away.  These two picks seemed like a "compounding errors" situation.  The first one resulted in a quick TD, and the second one was pretty classic "tried to do way too much" shit.

Just fumbled right at the end of the first half on a blind side hit - didn't look like terrible ball protection, he just gets hit in the back and coughs it up.

Early in the third he almost throws a pick right into a defensive lineman's face.  Kid made a hell of a play on it.

Early fourth quarter he makes fantastic play and throw to a dude who dropped it in the end zone - but the next play made a crazy scramble to his left and found an open man for a TD.  Pretty incredible throw, but dangerous.


Gotta say, even in the bad game - I see it.  He seems pretty decisive and accurate when there's an open throw.  He hit his drop and let it rip decisively more often than I expected him to.  He missed a few open throws (more than in the UW game) but honestly not that many.  The bigger issue are the plays where he just tries to do too much.  Is accurate with some crazy arm angles when dudes are in the backfield.  It was definitely a bad game especially from the mental standpoint IMO, but he made some absolutely ridiculous plays with both his legs and his arm.
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« Reply #1811 on: December 11, 2023, 10:16:46 PM »
That's why I was laughing. It was so stupid of you to actually argue.

Read the thread.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1812 on: December 11, 2023, 10:18:50 PM »
No one wants a QB with those numbers.

Wasn’t the point.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1813 on: December 11, 2023, 10:19:29 PM »
Spark is doing a deep dive on the tape. This is fantastic.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1814 on: December 11, 2023, 10:23:04 PM »
Read the thread.

I did. You made numerous bad arguments.
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