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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1725 on: December 11, 2023, 04:10:02 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 04:03:09 PM
Explain how I did the “exact same thing?”  Im not following you here.

Just throwing out blanket statements and opinions based on nothing. No actual evidence. Just what I “think” and “hope” will happen. You go as far as have those opinions, even when the actual data and stats are against everything you believe. There’s no data to discredit my opinion, yet here you are doing it because you WANT Fields to be better.
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« Reply #1726 on: December 11, 2023, 04:15:57 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 03:57:34 PM
And yet they re-signed him for 3 of those years. So apparently middling passing isn’t as much of a deal killer as you’re making it out to be. And again, what does Fields do that Flacco never could?

In the period when he played for the Ravens after he signed the huge contract in the offseason after he won the Super Bowl in 2012, he was one game over .500 with a 82.3 passer rating.

They traded him in the offseason after the 2018 season after Lamar replaced him and led them to the playoffs.  Since then they have made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years (so 4 out of 5 once they replaced him, 1 out of 5 with him on the big money contract).  They switched to Lamar after 9 games in 2018.  Since they made that switch, they are 59-27.

Do you think that's a coincidence?  It might be, I suppose, I just kind of doubt it.

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« Reply #1727 on: December 11, 2023, 04:16:47 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 11, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
Yep.

Would you be happy if the Bears had just signed Derek Carr for four years, $150m?

The point is his career has been pretty sustainable. And again, what can Fields do that he can’t? Are you sure Fields can’t get better as a passer?
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« Reply #1728 on: December 11, 2023, 04:18:03 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 04:16:47 PM
The point is his career has been pretty sustainable. And again, what can Fields do that he can’t? Are you sure Fields can’t get better as a passer?

Derek Carr's contract is a disaster man.  It's going to kill them.  It's the kind of deal that cripples a franchise long term, just like Flacco's did.  I will bet you any amount of money that the Saints will do what they can to get out from that Carr contract for pennies before it is over.


Did I say that about Fields getting better as a passer?

Or have I said the exact opposite a hundred times in the last couple days?
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« Reply #1729 on: December 11, 2023, 04:19:43 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 11, 2023, 04:10:02 PM
Just throwing out blanket statements and opinions based on nothing. No actual evidence. Just what I “think” and “hope” will happen. You go as far as have those opinions, even when the actual data and stats are against everything you believe. There’s no data to discredit my opinion, yet here you are doing it because you WANT Fields to be better.

I’ve cited multiple knowledgeable people who believe Fields is improving. People even more knowledgeable and credible than HQ2 posters believe it or not. Not that they are infallible, but they are credible.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1730 on: December 11, 2023, 04:20:52 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 04:19:43 PM
I’ve cited multiple knowledgeable people who believe Fields is improving. People even more knowledgeable and credible than HQ2 posters believe it or not. Not that they are infallible, but they are credible.

You're not trying to invalidate anyone's opinion, just consistently post media people who agree with you and point out how they're more knowledgeable and credible than the people who don't.
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« Reply #1731 on: December 11, 2023, 04:21:35 PM »
Do you think the Daniel Jones contract will help the Giants, hurt them, or not really have any effect on their roster as a whole?
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« Reply #1732 on: December 11, 2023, 04:23:09 PM »
It’s so obvious we need to move on from him ASAP.



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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1733 on: December 11, 2023, 04:40:45 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 04:19:43 PM
I’ve cited multiple knowledgeable people who believe Fields is improving. People even more knowledgeable and credible than HQ2 posters believe it or not. Not that they are infallible, but they are credible.

😂 you’ve cited other people’s opinions. That’s all. This isn’t hard, but you’re still not getting it.
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« Reply #1734 on: December 11, 2023, 04:51:21 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 11, 2023, 04:40:45 PM
😂 you’ve cited other people’s opinions. That’s all. This isn’t hard, but you’re still not getting it.

What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1735 on: December 11, 2023, 05:02:44 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 04:51:21 PM
What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.

How are their opinions anymore “credible” than say Sparks or I’s?! Enlighten us!
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« Reply #1736 on: December 11, 2023, 05:17:12 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 11, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
How are their opinions anymore “credible” than say Sparks or I’s?! Enlighten us!

They’re no fucking worse, that’s for sure. But I’m guessing they are better than HQ2 posters, in general. Even the exceptional HQ2 posters (which is pretty much everyone but me).
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1737 on: December 11, 2023, 05:21:00 PM »
I’m going to guess that people who have actually played in and worked around the NFL are on average slightly more credible than the HQ2 poster. Though that doesn’t mean they all agree or anyone’s opinion is infallible.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1738 on: December 11, 2023, 05:28:40 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 05:21:00 PM
I’m going to guess that people who have actually played in and worked around the NFL are on average slightly more credible than the HQ2 poster. Though that doesn’t mean they all agree or anyone’s opinion is infallible.

Like Aikman’s opinion who we’ve shown to be not credible actually. Again, Brad Biggs (whom you discount, wonder why) would fit exactly what you’ve stated above regarding the Bears organization. Yet you discredit it. Carry on…
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« Reply #1739 on: December 11, 2023, 05:31:45 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 05:17:12 PM
They’re no fucking worse, that’s for sure. But I’m guessing they are better than HQ2 posters, in general. Even the exceptional HQ2 posters (which is pretty much everyone but me).

These guys are credible when they agree with you.

When I use Troy Aikman’s comments about Trubisky or Josh Rosen as evidence, you disregard them out of hand and change your name / put a line in your signature mocking the notion.  When I point out that Dan Orlovsky brought up very similar character / work ethic issues about Fields in his draft process as you do with Caleb Williams you disregard them, but when he says something you agree with you post it here and talk about how much more knowledgable and credible he is than the people you don’t agree with.  Like literally the exact same people, when their views agree with yours you go on about their credibility, and when they don’t you disregard them.

You call an opinion “credible” when it confirms your own.
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