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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1650 on: December 11, 2023, 01:03:08 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
Jobu, want me to explain the tank to you again? Or why 2024 draftees and 2024 FAs haven’t helped the 2023 Bears yet? I’m here for ya!

That win you enjoyed yesterday…brought to you by…The Tank!

Lol, no. I don't need you to explain anything to me. Thanks. I'll just continue to watch Spark kick the living shit out of you in here.

Oh, and what point am I missing. You're trying to say Joe Flacco was good because the Ravens continuously handed him bad contracts.

Like I said, it's a weird way to try to prop up Fields. But do that if you want lol.

And that win was also brought to us by a Lions team that is fraudulent and can't seem to figure out how to play outdoors.
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« Reply #1651 on: December 11, 2023, 01:16:14 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 12:58:06 PM
You constantly missing the point is quite entertaining too.

You’re the one missing the point…
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« Reply #1652 on: December 11, 2023, 01:16:20 PM »
I never said Joe Flacco was particularly “good.” I was making the case that being a slightly below average passer APPARENTLY is sustainable! Lamar Jackson was also rewarded for two years of slightly below average passing! *Cue Oprah* You get slightly below average passing! You get slightly below average passing!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1653 on: December 11, 2023, 01:16:32 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 12:54:14 PM
Yep, he was so bad the Ravens signed him to ANOTHER 3 year deal after the huge disaster of a deal! Then signed with 3 other teams, earning starts at all of them along the way! I’m exceptionally bad at this!



If Joe Flacco is the kind of guy you're hoping to have at QB long term by re-signing Fields, you and I simply aren't going to agree.

He was a mediocre passer with a giant contract that resulted in a major limit on the team's roster building around him, all on the basis of a few great games at the right time.

I'd like to get an actually good QB, not pay 9 figures for "a guy".
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« Reply #1654 on: December 11, 2023, 01:17:21 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 01:16:20 PM
I never said Joe Flacco was particularly “good.” I was making the case that being a slightly below average passer APPARENTLY is sustainable! Lamar Jackson was also rewarded for two years of slightly below average passing! *Cue Oprah* You get slightly below average passing! You get slightly below average passing!

This is incredibly stupid.  It's like you WANT to limit the Bears' ceiling.  Every argument you make leans that way.
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« Reply #1655 on: December 11, 2023, 01:17:28 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 11, 2023, 01:16:14 PM
You’re the one missing the point…

Missing the point you think Justin Fields sucks? I got that point.

Don’t think you answered. Who is the most accurate college passer in the PFF era?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1656 on: December 11, 2023, 01:18:41 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 11, 2023, 01:17:21 PM
This is incredibly stupid.  It's like you WANT to limit the Bears' ceiling.  Every argument you make leans that way.

No, I want to maximize their ceiling. Why are you so convinced he can’t get better as a passer? Is it the great coaching he’s received, or the zero pro bowlers on the offense?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1657 on: December 11, 2023, 01:18:41 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 12:47:31 PM
What game, you lost me. You know who the most accurate college passer in the PFF era is?

I absolutely do. Fields. Appears that all the talent around him at O$U was the reason for that. When you’ve got wide-open receiver (check of them who’s in the NFL) and clearly better players, it makes it easy. He never had to anticipate a throw or make reads. You are really bad at this.
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« Reply #1658 on: December 11, 2023, 01:19:06 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 01:17:28 PM
Missing the point you think Justin Fields sucks? I got that point.

Don’t think you answered. Who is the most accurate college passer in the PFF era?

Aren't you big on COLLEGE IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PROS?

You were ranting about that the other day when saying that confirmed your bias.  But now, you want to keep third year QB Justin Fields on the basis of the college season he had four seasons ago.

I don't care what PFF said about his college performance.

How does PFF rate his NFL performance so far?  That's far more relevant, I'd think.
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« Reply #1659 on: December 11, 2023, 01:19:41 PM »
USC doesn’t have talent. And those PAC whatever number they call it now defenses are known for being pretty rugged.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1660 on: December 11, 2023, 01:20:18 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 01:18:41 PM
No, I want to maximize their ceiling. Why are you so convinced he can’t get better as a passer? Is it the great coaching he’s received, or the zero pro bowlers on the offense?

If you wanted to maximize their ceiling you would not be here trying to do whatever stupid shit you're trying to do by pointing out the Ravens signed Joe Flacco to a couple huge contracts that basically ended their time as a title contender.
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« Reply #1661 on: December 11, 2023, 01:20:41 PM »
So he’ll CERTAINLY be a better passer than the most accurate college passer in the PFF era from day one! It’s a certainty!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1662 on: December 11, 2023, 01:21:24 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 01:19:41 PM
USC doesn’t have talent. And those PAC whatever number they call it now defenses are known for being pretty rugged.

Do you think USC had as much talent at WR this year as OSU did with Fields?
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« Reply #1663 on: December 11, 2023, 01:22:18 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 11, 2023, 01:19:06 PM
Aren't you big on COLLEGE IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PROS?

You were ranting about that the other day when saying that confirmed your bias.  But now, you want to keep third year QB Justin Fields on the basis of the college season he had four seasons ago.

I don't care what PFF said about his college performance.

How does PFF rate his NFL performance so far?  That's far more relevant, I'd think.

I’m tearing down JJs conclusion that Williams would be an OBVIOUS immediate upgrade.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1664 on: December 11, 2023, 01:24:07 PM »
And to be clear, I am not "certain that he cannot improve as a passer".

I am concerned because he has started 35 NFL games and the "improvement" he's shown has resulted in a guy who is still not consistently even above average as a passer.  He's mediocre in the passing game still to this day.
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