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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #630 on: December 04, 2023, 09:24:16 AM »
You and the PAMan (and a couple others here) are the only ones who don’t think Fields has shown improvement lately. Even Troy Aikman said he’s changed his mind and says he’d bring Fields back for another year. But I guess he’s just another Fields meatball. And doesn’t know anything about quarterback play.
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« Reply #631 on: December 04, 2023, 09:24:46 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:21:34 AM
There isn’t a single person who thinks Getsy is good at his job. Not even ThePAMan.  Fields still has backers. And not just meatballs on Twitter.

This is the worst possible metric.

Mitch Trubisky still had backers too.  Having fans online want to keep you and being a consistently productive player are two very different criteria.  I’m mostly interested in the second one.
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« Reply #632 on: December 04, 2023, 09:26:57 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:24:16 AM
You and the PAMan (and a couple others here) are the only ones who don’t think Fields has shown improvement lately. Even Troy Aikman said he’s changed his mind and says he’d bring Fields back for another year. But I guess he’s just another Fields meatball. And doesn’t know anything about quarterback play.

If I said, “you’re the only one who thinks Fields is an elite NFL quarterback”, how would you respond?

You said that exactly as much as I said Fields hasn’t improved lately.  He has had some better games lately.  They have still been inconsistent and he’s had some terrible games lately too.  His highs are decent QB play and his lows are he shouldn’t even be out there.  The lows are still too frequent, and the highs are still too rare.

I haven’t said he has never improved, in fact you’ve simply ignored the multiple times I’ve explicitly said the opposite to beat up this strawman (as usual - no one just makes up what I said and argues against it better than you do)
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« Reply #633 on: December 04, 2023, 09:28:25 AM »
I gotta say, the idea of having all these exact same conversations for another entire season is incredibly disheartening.
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« Reply #634 on: December 04, 2023, 09:29:19 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:09:11 AM
It’s pretty hilarious that 99.5% of your posts are pure gibberish and yet about once every three weeks you post an absolute gem. It’s a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.
Were/are these your positions ?

Mid-season 2021, by this time next year.
Mid-season 2022, by this time next year.
Mid-season 2023, by this time next year ...
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« Reply #635 on: December 04, 2023, 09:30:13 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:24:16 AM
You and the PAMan (and a couple others here) are the only ones who don’t think Fields has shown improvement lately. Even Troy Aikman said he’s changed his mind and says he’d bring Fields back for another year. But I guess he’s just another Fields meatball. And doesn’t know anything about quarterback play.

Hey, if Aikman said it who are we to argue right?

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/troy-aikman-thinks-mitch-trubisky-is-evolving-into-franchise-qb/
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« Reply #636 on: December 04, 2023, 09:44:56 AM »
A coordinator is expected to be competent from day one. Unlike 1st round draft choices, he doesn’t get 3-4 years to grow into the role.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #637 on: December 04, 2023, 09:45:42 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 09:24:46 AM
This is the worst possible metric.

Mitch Trubisky still had backers too.  Having fans online want to keep you and being a consistently productive player are two very different criteria.  I’m mostly interested in the second one.

I’m talking about analysts and former players. Not Twitter mobs.
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« Reply #638 on: December 04, 2023, 09:46:29 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:45:42 AM
I’m talking about analysts and former players. Not Twitter mobs.

Guys like Troy Aikman I suppose.
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« Reply #639 on: December 04, 2023, 09:47:00 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Hey, if Aikman said it who are we to argue right?

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/troy-aikman-thinks-mitch-trubisky-is-evolving-into-franchise-qb/

I’d say his opinion is just as fucking valid as yours. You also pimped Trubisky at one time.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #640 on: December 04, 2023, 09:47:21 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:44:56 AM
A coordinator is expected to be competent from day one. Unlike 1st round draft choices, he doesn’t get 3-4 years to grow into the role.

Yes, even halfway through year 3 a top-15 draft pick QB has no expectation of consistent competence
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« Reply #641 on: December 04, 2023, 09:47:41 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 09:47:00 AM
I’d say his opinion is just as fucking valid as yours. You also pimped Trubisky at one time.

Whoops, kinda stepped on a rake there didn’t you bud
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« Reply #642 on: December 04, 2023, 09:55:34 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 09:47:21 AM
Yes, even halfway through year 3 a top-15 draft pick QB has no expectation of consistent competence

I swear to God you have morphed into the PAMan. It is really tough to be consistently competent when almost no one else around you is. He’s had one plus receiver and a couple decent RBs. He’s had an injured offensive line that is still young and fairly inexperienced. The starting unit has probably played together 3-4 times max. The Bears have failed Justin Fields at almost every turn. And yet is still out there working hard and improving (whether YOU see it or not).
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #643 on: December 04, 2023, 09:56:23 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 09:47:41 AM
Whoops, kinda stepped on a rake there didn’t you bud

I guess you’re going to have to explain it to me.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #644 on: December 04, 2023, 09:57:17 AM »
Do yourself a favor and watch some of the All22.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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