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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #75 on: November 13, 2023, 05:46:44 PM »
I’d like to see Fields get ball out quicker more consistently. After that, I don’t need him copying Bagent’s formula. They are different players with different ceilings. But yes, I’d like to see Justin making quicker decisions. That doesn’t mean I want him running the offense like Bagent.
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« Reply #76 on: November 13, 2023, 05:48:58 PM »
And occasionally just throw it quickly to the first read in anticipation. I think that would help him and the offense a lot.
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« Reply #77 on: November 13, 2023, 05:53:15 PM »
So I actually think we can find some middle ground here. I’d actually say I’d like him to play “a little bit more like Bagent,” meaning more on time and quicker throws. But I don’t necessarily want him “running the offense like Bagent,” because it was almost exclusively short stuff. That’s not taking advantage of Justin’s abilities. 
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« Reply #78 on: November 13, 2023, 05:55:24 PM »
Bagent wasn’t throwing 20 yard outs, which take longer to develop than a 2 yard curl.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2023, 07:43:57 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 13, 2023, 05:43:05 PM
Typical from you.

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I thought that was a reasonable question.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2023, 08:21:19 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 13, 2023, 03:11:45 PM
Hypothetical for those willing to answer it (guessing JusgeJudy is the only one who will offer a sincere answer):

If Fields manages to play well at Detroit this weekend; let’s say 270 yards 2 touchdowns no turnovers, runs for another 50+ and a TD AND WINS is that something along with solid play the rest of the year make you willing to keep him?

He needs to show some consistency, in a good way, through 4 quarters of each game the rest of the year. If he can do that, fine. If we see these wild fluctuations where he is great for 2 quarters and then sucks in the 4th, nope.

Interesting to see how Sweat does against Detroit.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2023, 08:31:00 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 13, 2023, 07:43:57 PM
I thought that was a reasonable question.

Do you want specific numbers? I think we all know “good quarterbacking” when we see it. Good to great production. Turnovers at a reasonable level. Maybe even a few wins sprinkled in. Good play in critical situations. How would you like it defined? We all just know it when we see it.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2023, 08:33:02 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 13, 2023, 08:31:00 PM
Do you want specific numbers? I think we all know “good quarterbacking” when we see it. Good to great production. Turnovers at a reasonable level. Maybe even a few wins sprinkled in. Good play in critical situations. How would you like it defined? We all just know it when we see it.

Isn't a QB rating in the 99s or higher deemed acceptable these days?
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2023, 09:07:55 PM »
He needs to start showing more. The next 4 games should answer some questions.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #84 on: November 13, 2023, 10:28:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 13, 2023, 08:33:02 PM
Isn't a QB rating in the 99s or higher deemed acceptable these days?

99s?
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #85 on: November 13, 2023, 10:29:51 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 13, 2023, 09:07:55 PM
He needs to start showing more. The next 4 games should answer some questions.

He was “showing more” 2 of his last three starts. Somewhere between his bad play and that (and closer to that) should be sufficient.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #86 on: November 13, 2023, 10:37:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 13, 2023, 10:28:18 PM
99s?

99.1 to 99.9. Or is it over 100 these days,
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #87 on: November 13, 2023, 11:08:51 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 13, 2023, 10:37:26 PM
99.1 to 99.9. Or is it over 100 these days,

Lol
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #88 on: November 14, 2023, 06:06:40 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 13, 2023, 10:29:51 PM
He was “showing more” 2 of his last three starts. Somewhere between his bad play and that (and closer to that) should be sufficient.
One game, a loss at home, was against a team that limped into Chicago and was not playing well and had given up 70 the week before.
The other was the equivalent of a qb salivating at the thought of throwing against our defense. But were not dead last in pass defense like Washington is.
Or does having one of the worst defenses in the league argument only come into play when discussing the Bears giving up points and how that impacts Fields record ?

Hang a banner or two.
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Re: Predict the Future
« Reply #89 on: November 14, 2023, 07:28:39 AM »
Quote from: Mn on November 14, 2023, 06:06:40 AM
One game, a loss at home, was against a team that limped into Chicago and was not playing well and had given up 70 the week before.
The other was the equivalent of a qb salivating at the thought of throwing against our defense. But were not dead last in pass defense like Washington is.
Or does having one of the worst defenses in the league argument only come into play when discussing the Bears giving up points and how that impacts Fields record ?

Hang a banner or two.

And it is not as if he was even good all 4 quarters in those games.
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