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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4395 on: February 10, 2024, 04:30:34 PM »
Same people: Due to Venezuela, we are overwhelmed with asylum seekers. We need immigration reform.

The right: they are sending rapists and murderers. They are collecting welfare and voting.

Right wing media: highlights isolated cases of crimes by immigrants

Sane people: that is bigotry and likely to provoke vigilante violence

Right wing: what about the Nashville Shooter?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4396 on: February 10, 2024, 04:46:36 PM »
Pure socialism, a command economy/ central planning, has failed every where it has been tried.

The best economy is mixed is mixed; with free markets as the default and some central planning -- public health & safety, healthcare, education, transportation, utilities....

Also, free markets need to be regulated to some extent prevent monopolies and excessive wealth disparity.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2024, 04:52:00 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4397 on: February 10, 2024, 04:53:50 PM »
The right: they are sending rapists and murderers. They are collecting welfare and voting.

Rapists and murderers are indeed coming in and raping and murdering. People provide examples and the open border folks scream bigotry. See above posts.

Isolated or not, they happen. It’s not bigotry to report it. I’m ok with a culture that doesn’t sweep the murder of our citizens by people who came here illegally under the rug.

Many are indeed collecting benefits. Some, perhaps many, will be able to vote sooner or later and are already on the Dems payroll. Democratic voting policies are skewed towards making it easier for people like this to vote. Not hard to put the pieces together here. There are more than few in the black community in Chicago who are up in arms about the handouts.

These are verifiable facts, and if you have trouble with them being reported, it seems to be a cognitive dissonance issue since you spend a lot of emotional energy insisting none of these things are happening.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4398 on: February 10, 2024, 05:06:29 PM »
Everyday 90 people are intentionally shot by a gun and survive. Will the right wing media highlight each and every one? Or will they sweep them under the rug?

99.999999099...% of asylum seekers will not commit any violent crimes. Will the right wing media report that?

Some Americans will be mistaken for illegal immigrants and become victims of vigilante crimes. Will the right wing media report that?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4399 on: February 10, 2024, 05:15:48 PM »
The mythical tie between immigration and crime

Opponents of immigration often argue that immigrants drive up crime rates. But newly released research from Stanford economist Ran Abramitzky and his co-authors finds that hasn’t been the case in America for the last 140 years.
https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/mythical-tie-between-immigration-and-crime
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4400 on: February 10, 2024, 05:49:43 PM »
"if it Bleeds it leads" * latest talking points and messaging instructions for our resident xenophobes. 

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4401 on: February 10, 2024, 05:52:00 PM »
"if it Bleeds it leads" * latest talking points and messaging instructions for our resident xenophobes. 

* caution does not apply to white male mass shooters.

Who said that?
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4402 on: February 10, 2024, 07:32:11 PM »
JFC you can’t be serious. White male mass shooters are the darlings of legacy media, complete with massive rush to judgment regarding political leanings. Meanwhile black on black crime, black on white, and anything to do with brown people committing crimes gets suppressed.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4403 on: February 10, 2024, 07:36:52 PM »
Everyday 90 people are intentionally shot by a gun and survive. Will the right wing media highlight each and every one? Or will they sweep them under the rug?

99.999999099...% of asylum seekers will not commit any violent crimes. Will the right wing media report that?

Some Americans will be mistaken for illegal immigrants and become victims of vigilante crimes. Will the right wing media report that?

You’re making a mole hill into a mountain. Only the retarded think that a high percentage of these people are committing crimes. The reason the right does try to publicize these cases when they do is that people like yourself literally don’t believe they’re happening and the mostly peaceful immigrants are just here to work. You are playing a percentages game that you wouldn’t likely be playing if your family member was among the raped or murdered.

Stop making everything so dramatic. We are openly letting people in who commit crimes. I will give you that it is a low percentage, but any is too many in my opinion. Why are you so against having a more selective entry process to prevent violent crime?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4404 on: February 10, 2024, 07:41:24 PM »
This unprecedented and unsustainable self-inflicted problem has gotten assaults on 2 cops and another incident with 1 shot at in Times Square in the last 2 weeks.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4405 on: February 10, 2024, 07:45:15 PM »
The mythical tie between immigration and crime

Opponents of immigration often argue that immigrants drive up crime rates. But newly released research from Stanford economist Ran Abramitzky and his co-authors finds that hasn’t been the case in America for the last 140 years.
https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/mythical-tie-between-immigration-and-crime

This study ends close to the day that Biden gets inaugurated. Am I right ?
« Last Edit: February 10, 2024, 07:50:33 PM by No one »

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4406 on: February 10, 2024, 07:54:00 PM »
This unprecedented and unsustainable self-inflicted problem has gotten assaults on 2 cops and another incident with 1 shot at in Times Square in the last 2 weeks.

That doesn’t matter. The illegal immigrants are mostly peaceful. This is the acceptable cost of doing business.

And by business I mean making sure we espouse perfect opposition to anything Trump has ever said, even when it flies in the face of common sense or anything rational.



« Last Edit: February 10, 2024, 07:57:47 PM by Custard »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4407 on: February 10, 2024, 07:55:36 PM »
The violent crime rate in the U.S. has returned to pre-pandemic levels in 2022, an annual release from the FBI has found.
https://www.statista.com/chart/31063/violent-and-other-crime-rates-us/
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4408 on: February 10, 2024, 08:02:36 PM »
Trump:

“They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Rational People:

“There are drugs and crime coming across the border. And also a lot of good people. Maybe we should have a system to try and sort the wheat from the chaff, like most peer countries?”

People suffering from TDS:

“Everything is fine. Good night.”
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4409 on: February 10, 2024, 08:03:48 PM »
A percentage of literally every definable group will commit crimes. So fucking what. Everyone with functioning brain cells knows that.

If an illegal harmed my family member; I would not not blame illegals in general anymore than I would blame all blacks if a black person harmed them. Clearly, Custard has a different view.

Now, if a right wing bigot harmed my friend's wife because she looks Asian; that is entirely different. Fascinating that Custard can't tell the difference.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2024, 08:09:37 PM by illiniray »
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