Actually I could envision that scenario easily happening. Not at a bar like a Muphys where there’s just people standing around, but if it’s a dancing club type bar and guy gets too handsy while dancing and grabs her. Plus given how big Shannon hands are perhaps there was enough of a squeeze to cause physical damage.
I think the videotape is the key. If she doesn’t react much at all to what she claims happened, then no case. But if she turns around and abruptly confronts him and creates a scene, and that’s again on a bar camera, then it looks bad for Shannon and I think is really the only way you could bring a charge like this and get a conviction.
And I think the two charges on him are trying to distinguish touching vs penetration.
Sucks for him but he really should just pay her off if they have that type of video evidence to get it to go away and not ruin his career. Given it’s been 3 months, maybe those things were considered but never hammered out so she went forward with the case.
DA would only prosecute this case if the victim wanted it prosecuted and was willing to testify
19yo USC female student was aggressor at a bar (kissing him on the neck), drags him outside to take Uber back to campus. They were both drunk, head to his frat. Bros tell him it's too risky
"she's too drunk to give consent"
They head back to her dorm room, they have sex. He goes to bathroom, comes out & her roommate confronts him. Girl wakes up CONFUSED..doesn't remember anything. Claims rape!
Guy gets arrested, but gets cleared by bar video (inside & outside)
@cdmcintyre1854 (2 years ago)
Girls getting drunk consenting to sex or even starting it then waking up the next day with REGRET or friends urging her to file charges against her target of the night before. This is just as bad as a young man actually forcing of taking advantage of a drunk girl. Both instances are very bad and the truth may be impossible to determine. The safest thing for men is to avoid a drunk female
@poopingwhilestanding5801 (6 years ago)
As a former USC alumni, I wrote the University Provost and stated my outrage that he was still being considered for expulsion after he was cleared by the LAPD. He replied that under Title IX, they're required to hold their own college "proceedings" to continue to receive Federal funding. I replied that's the last of any contribution I'll be making to the school and that his response clearly shows double jeopardy which in a criminal court is against the law.
TSJ is facing some GARBAGE 3-member committee (kangaroo court) "judgement", setup by Josh Whitman
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-usc-campus-dorm-charges-dropped-20170731-story.htmlProsecutors will no longer pursue a case against a USC student accused of raping a fellow undergraduate after a judge’s decision that there was not enough evidence to send the case to trial, the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office said Monday.
Charges will not be refiled against 20-year-old Armaan Karim Premjee, who was accused of sexually assaulting a 19-year-old student in her campus dorm on April 1, said Shiara Davila-Morales, a spokeswoman for the district attorney’s office. Premjee’s preliminary hearing was held in Los Angeles Superior Court last week.
Premjee was charged in May with rape by use of drugs and sexual penetration by a foreign object.
On Monday, Premjee’s attorney, Harland Braun, said the judge tossed out the case after the defense presented video evidence that showed consent.
Braun said Premjee and the woman were at Banditos Tacos & Tequila, near the USC campus, that night in April and that security footage showed them waiting for an Uber ride.
“There was a camera outside that captured the girl signaling to her friend that she was going to have intercourse with my client,” Braun said. The woman, he said, made motions with her hands that indicated sexual activity.
“There could never be any better evidence of there being consent,” Braun said. He added: “She was the aggressor.”
Premjee told the Times that he met the woman for the first time that night and that they had consensual sex. He said the woman made sexually-suggestive hand gestures to her friend twice behind his back.
“I’m very relieved,” he said of the judge’s decision. “I’ve always maintained a lot of faith in the justice system.”
Premjee said the publicity of the case has been “very stressful” and that he plans to return to USC in the fall. He will be entering his junior year and is studying business administration, he said.
Prosecutors had said the woman’s roommate walked in during the alleged attack.
“Premjee went into a bathroom and when he returned, the roommate confronted him and he left,” the district attorney’s office said in a statement in May, when the charges were announced.
LAPD Capt. Billy Hayes said the alleged assault “was reported immediately” to USC’s Department of Public Safety early on the morning of April 1.
Two weeks later, Premjee was arrested by officers with the LAPD’s Robbery-Homicide Division. He was released after posting $100,000 bail, according to jail records.
University officials said they could not confirm whether USC was conducting its own investigation.
“Information pertaining to student disciplinary records and proceedings or any matter of student conduct are confidential and protected by federal privacy laws,” the university said in a statement.
ABC did a report on above case, & another (U of Tenn/Chattanooga):
Drunk girl has consensual sex with wrestler (Corey Mock), she wakes up drunk (she at base of bed, he at head of bed). Confused (doesn't remember anything), then FALSELY claims RAPE!
"I thought it was ABSURD that they would make a [ rape ] charge against me"
-- Pamerjee
^^^ This seems to be TSJ's case, just ABSURD!!
^^^ "a fun night out can easily get out of control"
"He said his son was COMPLETELY BLINDSIDED"
"It's on his record, his life is RUINED. He was just blown away, he didn't know how to react
Would I think that he would ever be involved with sexual assault. ABSOLUTELY NOT"
-- C.D. Mock, Corey's dad
The University initially dismissed the charges, in a non-criminal hearing. But weeks later, reversed that ruling, finding him responsible. But after that, a local court ruled that they improperly "shifted the burden of proof"
NO CHARGES WERE BROUGHT
TSJ faced charges made outside of U of I (Lawrence/KS), he was arrested. U of I/DIA suspended him. Now, TSJ faces some 3-member committee (internal U of I kangaroo court)
I believe the above 2 cases mirror what happened to TSJ
USC, U of Tenn/Chattanooga..now U of I. The TSJ has an interesting twist, the incident happened OUTSIDE of the "home" Univ.
KEY THING:NEED to get that video (inside & outside).
TSJ was driven to Lawrence in a car, there were other people in his party. They were likely at the bar. Potential witnesses
"Loren Tate said Bill Self (KU basketball coach, formerly Illini coach) is trying hard to help TSJ"
^^^ There was ANOTHER rape case in Lawrence/KS, involving KU basketball player Arterio Morris:
https://www2.kusports.com/sports/2023/oct/11/woman-alleges-in-affidavit-that-ku-basketball-player-violently-raped-her-as-she-begged-him-to-stop-deputy-da-wanted-document-kept-secret/I believe Bill Self realizes that TSJ really got screwed, & being a former Illini, plus a nice guy..he wants to help
Plus, sketchi-ness of Lawrence/KS DA:
Prosecutor asks panel to suspend Douglas County DA’s law license after day 3 of disciplinary hearinghttps://lawrencekstimes.com/2023/12/20/valdez-hrg-day3/This whole thing reeks of STUPIDITY:
Lawrence/KS law (Garbage), U of I/DIA (Junk), U of I academics (Failed Leadership), NCAA (Junk)
Poor TSJ got caught up in the mess..