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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 03:56:27 PM
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Illini Football v. Toledo
Where: Memorial Stadium, Champaign (for JudgeJudy)
Date: Saturday, 9/2
Time: 630pm
TV: BTN
Odds: Illini -9! O/U 46 (seems high to me)
*1983 B1G Football Title Winners (and 1984 Rose Bowl 2d Place Finisher) Reunion! Only team in Big Ten history to beat every team in the conference during the season.
*2003 Men's Tennis National Champions will be celebrated as well.
*Note-The Rockets went 9-5 in 2022 and won the Boca Raton Bowl.
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Debating on going or not. Not sure if I wanna make the trip to Ohio or not… 😁
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This one’s got me a little nervous. Excited for some meaningful (to me) football, however.
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This one’s got me a little nervous. Excited for some meaningful (to me) football, however.
It's only Monday. Relax, or you'll be a wreck by Sat.
Toledo and Kansas both return a lot of offense to test our new DC and defensive backfield. Assuming Henry doesn't change much on defense, this will be our 3rd year with the system and we'll need it for both games.
And I'm hoping for a healthy and productive year for McCray.
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gonna do burgers and pasta salad for the game!
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gonna do burgers and pasta salad for the game!
Near the port o pottie, right? Always have to have a smart game plan.
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Saw some writer from the Champaign Room say we were gonna win the west, so gotta happen, right?
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gonna do burgers and pasta salad for the game!
Out of 1 thru 4, who's the biggest football fan ?
And I'm not talking size.
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Out of 1 thru 4, who's the biggest football fan ?
And I'm not talking size.
probably 4 who likes the broncos
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probably 4 who likes the broncos
When are we getting the pics?
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Saw some writer from the Champaign Room say we were gonna win the west, so gotta happen, right?
Well, the joke here would be a reference about what the various Score hosts think about the West, but I am not Jobu.
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Well, the joke here would be a reference about what the various Score hosts think about the West, but I am not Jobu.
The Champaign Room sucks, but it's not as bad as the Score.
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I honestly think Illinois has a shot at the West title. Just about as much as anyone else in my opinion. Will that happen?! I don’t know, let’s just hope this year and Bielema are different than others. He might actually be the one to accomplish it.
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I honestly think Illinois has a shot at the West title. Just about as much as anyone else in my opinion. Will that happen?! I don’t know, let’s just hope this year and Bielema are different than others. He might actually be the one to accomplish it.
Yes, the Illini seem to have a problem having consistent seasons unless they are losing seasons.
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Yes, the Illini seem to have a problem having consistent seasons unless they are losing seasons.
Exactly. I do think that Bielema is/can be the guy to change that though.
*Knocks on wood
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I honestly think Illinois has a shot at the West title. Just about as much as anyone else in my opinion. Will that happen?! I don’t know, let’s just hope this year and Bielema are different than others. He might actually be the one to accomplish it.
Kind of how I feel about the Bears. I don’t think anyone in their division is head and shoulders better than them.
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We lost a ton and 7-5 would be a good year.
The staff does appear to be teaching the players well and we're getting some depth now.
We're not used to depth.
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I honestly think Illinois has a shot at the West title. Just about as much as anyone else in my opinion. Will that happen?! I don’t know, let’s just hope this year and Bielema are different than others. He might actually be the one to accomplish it.
I agree. There are 4 new coaches in the West.
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I agree. There are 4 new coaches in the West.
NU wasn't going to be good anyway.
We're at PU.
Wisco is picked to be better. They're going air raid. Or so they say..
Nebraska could be better. That should be doable.
Home games vs Wisco and Nebby is good, but xxxx and the gofs are road games.
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I’m very mildly optimistic. We lost a lot, but return quite a bit and have a favorable schedule. Since there doesn’t seem to be much separating us from most of the teams in our division, the could end up being a really big deal if we just win the ones we should.
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I’m very mildly optimistic. We lost a lot, but return quite a bit and have a favorable schedule. Since there doesn’t seem to be much separating us from most of the teams in our division, the could end up being a really big deal if we just win the ones we should.
Missing a "but it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't" at the end?
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I don’t think we’ll end up winning this division, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we did. I probably will keep my focus on the Bears until they start calling designed runs in obvious Hail Mary situations.
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For the BTN viewers ....
'The game will air on Big Ten Network with Mark Followill, Matt Millen (😴), and Elise Menaker on the call. The Busey Bank Illini Sports Network has the radio call with Brian Barnhart, Martin O'Donnell, and Michael Martin.'
Jer'zhan Newton has a little brother, 5'11" 190 lb 2nd team All MAC wr Jerjuan, on the Rockets.
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Weird.
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Weird.
Everyone else here, all 6, caught what he was saying.
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Everyone else here, all 6, caught what he was saying.
Even our guests, our friends from the Soviet and Commie Chinese troll farms, got it
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Everyone else here, all 6, caught what he was saying.
It was dumb. Just like 90% of everything he posts. And 100% of what he posts to me.
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I’m excited for football. Hope we don’t shit the bed. I’m gonna take the under and pick the Illini to win but not cover.
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Go Illinis! May need to have the missus drive down to the game. Too much shenanigans last night
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Go Illinis! May need to have the missus drive down to the game. Too much shenanigans last night
How are those kabobs coming along ? :D
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How are those kabobs coming along ? :D
Ugh. Too much Rolling Stones and Jack Daniel's last night....
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Ugh. Too much Rolling Stones and Jack Daniel's last night....
Man would this post have ever drawn the ire of Robb
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Go Illinis! May need to have the missus drive down to the game. Too much shenanigans last night
As would this from Robb. He HATES when people spread misinformation. Who the fuck is Illinis…
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I agree with George.
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As would this from Robb. He HATES when people spread misinformation. Who the fuck is Illinis…
Well played.
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Ugh. Too much Rolling Stones and Jack Daniel's last night....
Sounds like a great night. One of my favorite nights in all the time I lived in the city was a Saturday night at Vaughn’s at 2900 block of N. Clark where I sat at the bar and everyone sang along with Rolling Stones songs until closing time. Great memory.
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Man, I’m extremely excited for this year and this season. It’s been a long time since I’ve been this fired up for an Illini season.
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His arm looks ok so far.
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Looks like we have a QB that can QB.
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Man, I’m extremely excited for this year and this season. It’s been a long time since I’ve been this fired up for an Illini season.
Agreed. It feels good to be interested in Illini Football again.
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Game on.
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QB and OL look decent. Too many penalties. Need to clean that up.
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Yeah, like what I see of Altmeyer so far.
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Defense could be a little stiffer.
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Defense could be a little stiffer.
It’s gonna be hard for The Law Firm to live up to their hype. Not saying they can’t, just that a lot is expected from them.
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“I wish we’d a had Michael Jordan.” 😂
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They need to stop the run and make that QB throw.
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Don't let em hang around
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I think Toledo returns 3/4 of their offense
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Oh boy
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I’m worried about the defense
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The defense is getting embarassed. Almost gagged a 3rd and 27.
To be fair, there was a blatant hold that wasn't called.
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Toledo is holding a lot and getting away with it, but this defense sucks. Like night and day from last year.
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Tighten up
Now
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For all the hype Randolph gets, he’s getting his ass kicked up front.
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Toledo is kicking their asses up front on both sides.
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6 wins looking way too optimistic. Whole team looks like crap.
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2nd half let's go. Prepare and get ready
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Altmeyer looks pretty good at least. Ball's coming out of his hand nicely.
Penalties and Lunney play calls aren't helping him.
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24 plays in the half.
44 for Toledo.
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Kinda glad Toledo scored there. Hopefully they come out pissed off in the 2nd half.
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Altmeyer looks pretty good at least. Ball's coming out of his hand nicely.
Penalties and Lunney play calls aren't helping him.
Altmeyer stares down one receiver each pass play
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A lot of new season ticket holders watching them get their asses kicked by a MAC team. Yikes.
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A lot of new season ticket holders watching them get their asses kicked by a MAC team. Yikes.
Same old same old. At least the band's tribute to Rush was solid.
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The players do know the season has started right?
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Did Lovie or Beckman sneak back into the building?
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Kinda glad Toledo scored there. Hopefully they come out pissed off in the 2nd half.
Yeah that worked out well
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Kinda glad Toledo scored there. Hopefully they come out pissed off in the 2nd half.
So much for being pissed off lol
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I saw 3 wide open guys on that TD SMH
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Throw into triple coverage... wow
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Altmyer threw that into a guy that was triple covered. What the fuck?!
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Christ this is some Beckmanball after the first drive.
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Had a guy wide open and he was focused on one guy and threw the INT
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We better get our shit together or we’re gonna lose and continue to get embarrassed.
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So much for getting pissed off being a strategy.
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Whew much needed!!! Pick 6!!
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Now let’s fucking go, Illini!
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Needed that
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Young qb hitting passes and makes a throw he shouldn't have thrown.
Not unexpected.
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Whew much needed!!! Pick 6!!
Great play.. that guy was wide open and he came out of nowhere to pick that ball
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Damn I rewound the INT like three times and missed the pick 6 lol.
Great play by Scott. That is called picking your teammates up right there.
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We better get our shit together or we’re gonna lose and continue to get embarrassed.
I see your lack of faith is on this board too
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Young qb hitting passes and makes a throw he shouldn't have thrown.
Not unexpected.
Lol
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Needed that
I see your brilliance is here too
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Oh look, Murph has shown up to troll! Hopefully he takes a bike ride tonight and gets hit by a fucking car!
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I see your brilliance is here too
Why wouldn’t it be
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Nice to see Murph outside of the deuce.
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Nice to see Murph outside of the deuce.
It still stinks…
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Even the announcers are picking up Altmyer staring down receivers and not going through progressions.
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OL finally decided to start fucking blocking. That’s nice.
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Lol
Lol
I told everybody here, before they ran the play.
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Altmeyer probably scores if that field judge hadn’t been in his way.
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There we go. Be aggressive and we’ll win.
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That hook and ladder was probably dumber than the Bears running quarterback sneak from the shotgun against GB.
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That hook and ladder was probably dumber than the Bears running quarterback sneak from the shotgun against GB.
Yeah, especially on the short side of the field
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Yeah, especially on the short side of the field
🎯
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Where did everyone go?
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JJ probably passed out.
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Toledo isn’t a chump, but struggling at home against MAC is not good. Groundbreaking take I know.
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JJ probably passed out.
Didn’t his lady move away? He’s probably jacking off.
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Didn’t his lady move away? He’s probably jacking off.
Said he was already really drunk and a pass out candidate a few hours ago.
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Didn’t his lady move away? He’s probably jacking off.
4th quarter would seem an odd time to do it. But when the urge strikes, the urge strikes.
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I took a quick poop and missed a TD. What happened?
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Well, crap. Needed to at least burn some clock that drive and gave up two sacks on three plays.
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Not confident in this defense.
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Let's see if Altmeyer can lead a game winning drive
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I would have liked a better replay on that roughing the passer. Sure looked like he might have been blocked into the quarterback.
Not that it matters. This defense sucks.
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I’m here. Let’s get a game-winning drive.
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Wow…penalties.
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This might be the ballgame…
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OH FUCK
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Wow, I didn’t think that had a chance when he let it go.
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While ball is in the air.. that's the stupidest throw on 4 and 4 ever.. I HATE THIS....
After catch.. GREATEST DECISION EVER
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Get a TD here with no time.. I dont' trust college kickers
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Holy shit has to always give me a heart attack
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They haven't stopped straight ahead blocking.
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Here we go!
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Glad I never doubted :)
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Not exactly the most impressive win but it is a win.
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That win is like fucking your sister
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Oh look, Murph has shown up to troll! Hopefully he takes a bike ride tonight and gets hit by a fucking car!
You pussies thought we would lose to Toledo?
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I’ll take it. Need this defense to step up the rest of the season and stop the stupid fucking penalties!
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That win is like fucking your sister
And she’s trans
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The Who-Gives-A-Fuck-Whatever bowl is still in play :D
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Oh look, Murph has shown up to troll! Hopefully he takes a bike ride tonight and gets hit by a fucking car!
The season started.
I can’t figure people on college FB message boards in March with endless threads on the recruiting of a high school sophomore who was gonna save the program but tore his ACL
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A fair bit to complain about, but at the end of the day they showed some grit and came up with the win. Enjoying the idea that Altmeyer could be around 3 years.
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1 down. Altmyer looked good.
At Kansas 6:30 Fri on ESPN2 up next.
They return a lot of offense too, and put 48 on Missourah St.
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Not sure what to think but that's a solid win against a likely bowl team. Only game one. I'll take it.
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"But it's a really good MAC team" is the football equivalent of saying "but she has a great personality."
At least it's a W!
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Have to clean up the penalties. They got away with gifting 25 points to Toledo. That's not gonna fly against the better teams on the schedule.
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I’m really fucking worried about the defense. They got pushed around up front by a MAC offensive line. And that corner, #12, needs to learn how to tackle or they’ll run big wideouts at him and bowl his ass over.
Glad they won, but man…
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"But it's a really good MAC team" is the football equivalent of saying "but she has a great personality."
At least it's a W!
Be nice. My nephew plays for a good MAC team. But I get your point.
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The lack of pass rush is concerning
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The lack of pass rush is concerning
And surprising.
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1 down. Altmyer looked good.
At Kansas 6:30 Fri on ESPN2 up next.
They return a lot of offense too, and put 48 on Missourah St.
He has to stop staring down his receivers. When he had tons of time he would make his reads. Otherwise he was forcing it. He had a guy wide open for a TD on that INT and he instead waited and threw to the primary WR he was staring down and the guy read his eyes and picked it off.
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(https://media.tenor.com/77BhQIoBNU0AAAAM/denzel-washington-laughing.gif)
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The lack of pass rush is concerning
I think they were concerned about Finn's running ability and hoped to bottle him up a little.
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He has to stop staring down his receivers. When he had tons of time he would make his reads. Otherwise he was forcing it. He had a guy wide open for a TD on that INT and he instead waited and threw to the primary WR he was staring down and the guy read his eyes and picked it off.
We'll see if that is an issue going on with playing time and coaching, but almost every pass hit the receiver in the hands.
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That 4th down pass, although fortunate, could be the confidence booster needed for a good season.
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He has to stop staring down his receivers. When he had tons of time he would make his reads. Otherwise he was forcing it. He had a guy wide open for a TD on that INT and he instead waited and threw to the primary WR he was staring down and the guy read his eyes and picked it off.
I watched it 3x and I couldn’t see anyone “wide open for a TD.” Mostly because of the camerawork.
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Toledo returned 16 of 22 starters from last years team with an NFL quarterback prospect.
We have problems running the ball which is a concern seeing Toledo was not a good defensive team at all. I thought our defense waant too bad really. We were only rushing 3 or 4 guys and never blitzed much. Our number 1 priority was not letting finn scramble.
Kansas will be a very similar matchup. KU wasnt impressive against missouri state was a 27-17 game halfway thru 4th Q.
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I watched it 3x and I couldn’t see anyone “wide open for a TD.” Mostly because of the camerawork.
There was a guy running a post route right through the middle of the field. The guy defending him went (along with 2 other defenders) to the guy Altmyer was staring down.
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There was a guy running a post route right through the middle of the field. The guy defending him went (along with 2 other defenders) to the guy Altmyer was staring down.
Could have sworn I saw a defender between him and the goal line, but ok.
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The Toledo player at the top of the screen was step for step with the guy across the middle. And had the angle to push him further inside.
(https://i.postimg.cc/k51RxvZw/IMG-4741.png) (https://postimg.cc/R3t0mKvn)
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It was a terrible decision, but “wide open for a touchdown?” I don’t see it.
https://x.com/hustlebelt/status/1698149193661972791?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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The Toledo player at the top of the screen was step for step with the guy across the middle. And had the angle to push him further inside.
(https://i.postimg.cc/k51RxvZw/IMG-4741.png) (https://postimg.cc/R3t0mKvn)
So as you can see, there were already 3 defenders in the area. The 4th guy had good coverage on the guy going down the middle.
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Toledo returned 16 of 22 starters from last years team with an NFL quarterback prospect.
We have problems running the ball which is a concern seeing Toledo was not a good defensive team at all. I thought our defense waant too bad really. We were only rushing 3 or 4 guys and never blitzed much. Our number 1 priority was not letting finn scramble.
Kansas will be a very similar matchup. KU wasnt impressive against missouri state was a 27-17 game halfway thru 4th Q.
I always looked at this game as a tough one. Same with the Ks game.
Ks didn't have their starting qb and it's not known how much, if any, he'll play against us.
ThePAMan was at the game. He wasn't limited to camera views.
Nonetheless, the ball shouldn't have been thrown.
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Good morning shirtcockers
I am glad we won. I hope this was just a rough start, because the defense was not great. Defensive line put no pressure on Finn, our secondary was weak. Running game meh. I like what I see in Altmeyer. He needs to stop staring down his targets, and our Oline needs to give him a little more time. Glad Lunney had more than 5 plays and was using TEs.
In a nutshell, this was a regression to typical MAC level Illinois football. No way we even sniff the west title playing like this,
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I was at a soirée during the game the other night and wasn’t really able to pay close attention after the first half. Just rewatched the extended highlights. Toledo is a good, experienced, well coached football team that was treating this game like it was their Super Bowl. Illinois looked like a team with a lot of new pieces. Toledo is wayyyy better than IU was last year.
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AP has Kansas at #35, Toledo at #41 and we got 3 votes to put us at #45.
And their updated today rankings have LSU at #5 and Clemson at #9 with their 0-1 records. 🤔
Kansas 6' 220 lb QB Jalon Daniels is set to return against us. Daniels was pre-season Big12 Offensive Player of the Year.
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AP has Kansas at #35, Toledo at #41 and we got 3 votes to put us at #45.
And their updated today rankings have LSU at #5 and Clemson at #9 with their 0-1 records. 🤔
Kansas 6' 220 lb QB Jalon Daniels is set to return against us. Daniels was pre-season Big12 Offensive Player of the Year.
There’s no such thing as #35 or #41. It’s called “others receiving votes.”
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jfc
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The crazy thing is Toledo is still ahead of us…
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The crazy thing is Toledo is still ahead of us…
We were 9.5 pt favorites on our home field.
They just received more votes in the other teams receiving votes category. ;)
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jfc
We can talk about him if you want.
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We can talk about him if you want.
Altmyer does look like he throws a more accurate and catchable ball.
:D
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Altmyer does look like he throws a more accurate and catchable ball.
:D
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-chicago-bears-justin-fields-most-accurate-quarteback-ohio-state-pff-college-era
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Take it to the Bear thread
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Take it to the Bear thread
(https://i.postimg.cc/MH2ZyTHY/IMG-4703.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/341Hh3gy)
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Miles Scott was a walk-on receiver with 4 receptions last year. Bielema thought he had more promise on defense but wouldn't move a kid paying his own way.
Give the kid a scholarship, move him to defense and he's named Big10 Co-Defensive player of the week in his 1st start on defense.
"Finished Toledo game with six tackles, included five solo stops, to go along with his interception, and was the nation's No. 1 graded defensive back and the No. 3-graded defender overall (first in B1G), according to PFF."
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Miles Scott was a walk-on receiver with 4 receptions last year. Bielema thought he had more promise on defense but wouldn't move a kid paying his own way.
Give the kid a scholarship, move him to defense and he's named Big10 Co-Defensive player of the week in his 1st start on defense.
"Finished Toledo game with six tackles, included five solo stops, to go along with his interception, and was the nation's No. 1 graded defensive back and the No. 3-graded defender overall (first in B1G), according to PFF."
That's amazing!