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Title: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 11:12:59 AM
If this is not a must-win, it's pretty damn close to it.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 04, 2023, 11:29:03 AM
I will say that this is a 100% probability must win
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 12:06:26 PM
Three weeks ago I didn’t think we’d be needing a win so badly.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 12:14:58 PM
All quiet on the Skyy Clark news it appears. Let’s see if he plays tonight or is still out with an “injury”
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 12:33:39 PM
All quiet on the Skyy Clark news it appears. Let’s see if he plays tonight or is still out with an “injury”

I hope he’s there and stays with the program. I think he’d be fine if he just got an extra 3-5 minutes a game.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 12:40:24 PM
Nice one Tempo.

Have to say, this is pretty pathetic if an NU game is concerning enough that people are worried because it is a "must win."

I think the Illini are going to get better as 2023 rolls along and make the March Tourney That Counts.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 12:46:45 PM
Nice one Tempo.

Have to say, this is pretty pathetic if an NU game is concerning enough that people are worried because it is a "must win."

I think the Illini are going to get better as 2023 rolls along and make the March Tourney That Counts.

I agree, they usually do under Underwood, but damn 0-3 in conference. Yikes.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 04, 2023, 01:21:59 PM
They are not 0-3 yet, but they are Temp0-3.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 03:08:29 PM
NW shooting last 2 home games:

Vs Brown 34% (4/21 on 3s)
Vs Ohio State 28% (9/31 on 3s)

NW is due to regress to the mean and blow the doors off Illinois.  The last team NW played that was as poorly coached as Illinois was DePaul, and they won that game 83-45.  This game should not be close either.  Underwood’s AAU ball isn’t gonna work here. 






Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 04, 2023, 03:21:25 PM
NW shooting last 2 home games:

Vs Brown 34% (4/21 on 3s)
Vs Ohio State 28% (9/31 on 3s)

NW is due to regress to the mean and blow the doors off Illinois.  The last team NW played that was as poorly coached as Illinois was DePaul, and they won that game 83-45.  This game should not be close either.  Underwood’s AAU ball isn’t gonna work here.

Yeah, that's not how "regress to the mean" works. In fact, given that NW already had a game this season where it shot something like 8 percent on 3s, their version of "regress to the mean" would likely be the opposite of what you wrote.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 03:23:23 PM
Yeah, that's not how "regress to the mean" works. In fact, given that NW already had a game this season where it shot something like 8 percent on 3s, their version of "regress to the mean" would likely be the opposite of what you wrote.

I just want to know what the Win Expectancy will be at the end of the game.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Jrock74 on January 04, 2023, 04:16:12 PM
Depaul's entire starting line-up was suspended for the N'Western game I don't know if I would take any value from that game. ::)
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 08:14:45 PM
NW’s uniforms are horrendous
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:14:49 PM
Harris picks up 2 fouls in the first 30 seconds of the game.  :(
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: jayboek on January 04, 2023, 08:23:19 PM
Skype clark blows
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Jrock74 on January 04, 2023, 08:23:39 PM
We are not a good basketball team. 
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Jrock74 on January 04, 2023, 08:27:16 PM
Clark turns ball over.
Clark's man's makes a three.
Clark bricks 3.

Rinse recycle repeat.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 08:29:11 PM
We shoot way too many threes for a cling at them.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:29:17 PM
Man we need some shooters in the worst fucking way.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: jayboek on January 04, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
How in the hell was Skype going to Kentucky????  Seriously??  😆
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 08:34:59 PM
Harris picks up 2 fouls in the first 30 seconds of the game.  :(
Better off without him
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:35:29 PM
How in the hell was Skype going to Kentucky????  Seriously??  😆

ICQ was their top target.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 08:40:33 PM
NW is 6/20 which is 30%.  Still waiting for regression.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:42:02 PM
Hawkins just ain't that guy.

He and Shannon are supposed to be the leaders and they just teamed up to commit all kinds of dumb there.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: jayboek on January 04, 2023, 08:43:42 PM
Hawkins just ain't that guy.
He's a nba 1st round pick though as what a lot of clueless illini bucket fans say.  😆
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: jayboek on January 04, 2023, 08:46:42 PM
This offense is pathetic.  Drive to the basket u tards.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:47:11 PM
We're a team that chucks up a shit ton of threes. Which is fine if, you know, we were hitting them at a decent clip...which we're not.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 08:54:12 PM
It's like we don't have a pass in the playbook that accomplishes something, much less a play that takes 2 passes.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:56:28 PM
It's like we don't have a pass in the playbook that accomplishes something, much less a play that takes 2 passes.

I think they just read your post.  :D
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 08:59:21 PM
We're a stupid, stupid fucking team, and our most experienced players are leading the charge.

That's a problem.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:00:30 PM
Haven't had to worry about Free Shots so far.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: jayboek on January 04, 2023, 09:02:20 PM
Keep chucking 3 balls u losers. 
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:02:47 PM
Most important 40 minutes of the season coming up.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 09:03:43 PM
Haven't had to worry about Free Shots so far.
Being outscored by 8 at 8-0 might be a worry.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 09:05:00 PM
Shoot 30% and up 4. Lol.

We're down 7 in boards, 22-15. Lol.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:11:12 PM
Shoot 30% and up 4. Lol.

We're down 7 in boards, 22-15. Lol.

And we're shooting 46% lol.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 09:21:11 PM
2 quick passes for an open 3. Drains it.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:27:59 PM
Mayer is a fucking dumbass.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 09:30:18 PM
NW shooting 26%.  10/38.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 09:30:30 PM
Mayer does not pass the ball unless he absolutely has to.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 09:32:56 PM
10/40 25%.  I was wrong about regression.  If Illinois gets up by 6+ this game should be over
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:36:14 PM
We're shooting free shots!

...but it's Dainja shooting them.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 09:42:06 PM
We're down 10 in points off turnovers and 12 in free shots.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:43:10 PM
Cats hitting their open threes.

Us? Brick, brick, brick.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 09:43:34 PM
They are not 0-3 yet, but they are Temp0-3.

Ok?
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
We're down 10 in points off turnovers and 12 in free shots.

The Clown at the door should have told you Free Shots don't matter until Jan 16th
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:45:11 PM
Cats hitting their open threes.

Us? Brick, brick, brick.

Seems to be a recurring theme lately.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 09:45:28 PM
Mayer plays absolutely no defense either
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: wonky73 on January 04, 2023, 09:47:19 PM
Underwhelm earning that extension
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: jayboek on January 04, 2023, 09:50:47 PM
Pathetic.  Team is offensively inept.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:53:04 PM
Makes you wonder what the fuck happened in MSG. The attitude has changed. There's no chemistry or teamwork. No leadership. Nothing.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:53:26 PM
Underwhelm earning that extension

B1G Titles the only thing that counts!!!!
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:54:42 PM
Makes you wonder what the fuck happened in MSG. The attitude has changed. There's no chemistry or teamwork. No leadership. Nothing.

Maybe someone banged someone else's girlfriend.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 09:55:11 PM
Appears the wheels are falling off this game and season. Shit might get really ugly if they lose this game.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:56:27 PM
Appears the wheels are falling off this game and season. Shit might get really ugly if they lose this game.

Looks like a bunch of posters have already hit the portal. Custard may rename the place BoilerHQ2.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 09:57:11 PM
Nice pass Hawkins you absolute dumb fuck.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:57:32 PM
We look adept at turning over the ball.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Jrock74 on January 04, 2023, 09:57:57 PM
It wad already fucking ugly.   Might? 😂
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:58:25 PM
So glad the team did not need Kofi
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:59:16 PM
Let me know when this team is actually better without Kofi....and Ayo....
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: wonky73 on January 04, 2023, 10:01:05 PM
Let me know when this team is actually better without Kofi....and Ayo....

2033
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:01:19 PM
The women's team - yes the women's team - has more excitement in January with a program that only had 7 wins last year and with a first year head coach.

Whodathunkit?

Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: frankiew on January 04, 2023, 10:02:54 PM
something happened between texas and penn st
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 10:03:32 PM
We look adept at turning over the ball.
21-4 on points off turnovers.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:03:42 PM
Clown34 is right, free shooting is not an issue at all
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:04:57 PM
2033

The clone of me will enjoy that season
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:05:05 PM
Texas and UCLA have to be scratching their heads right now.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:05:18 PM
It wad already fucking ugly.   Might? 😂

Should’ve said MUCH uglier.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: wonky73 on January 04, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
Free shots don't matter if you never get any
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:06:24 PM
Texas and UCLA have to be scratching their heads right now.

Illinois will be their bad losses on Selection Sunday.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:08:28 PM
something happened between texas and penn st

Yep.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:09:38 PM
Ball.movement!
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:10:56 PM
Funny when you drive the ball you get good looks
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:11:44 PM
Funny when you drive the ball you get good looks

And fouls called even when you trip over your own feet
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:12:13 PM
Wow. And a month ago I thought this team could possibly win a national title.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:14:07 PM
something happened between texas and penn st

Too many egos and only one ball.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:16:37 PM
Free shots not a problem at all. Nope, not at all.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:17:39 PM
Wow. And a month ago I thought this team could possibly win a national title.

I thought we had a good shot at getting out of the second round. At this rate, that's something we won't have to worry about this year.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 10:17:52 PM
Shooting 32% and up 10.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 10:18:18 PM
This team is 2 miracle comebacks away from being 7-7.

They just play bad team basketball and short of Mayer or Shannon going of 1-1 hitting a bunch of 3s, the team has nothing/

Can’t wait to hear Nichi’s take
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:18:57 PM
Shooting 32% and up 10.

Free shots are meaningless though until Jan 16th.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 04, 2023, 10:19:05 PM
This game is exhibit A as to why big ten teams struggle in the tournament

That wasn't basketball that was a visual abortion shitfest

Thanks refs
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 10:19:47 PM
Under bettors are getting dicked with this last 3 minutes
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:20:04 PM
This game is exhibit A as to why big ten teams struggle in the tournament

That wasn't basketball that was a visual abortion shitfest

Thanks refs

Yes, it is the refs' fault Illinois has no offense and turnsover the ball.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:24:15 PM
Can't wait to hear who Underachiever blames for this one
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:24:56 PM
Outscored 40-23 after the Harris T.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 04, 2023, 10:25:33 PM
Oh brother
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:27:18 PM
The positionless basketball thing isn't working as well lately.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:27:47 PM
Outscored 40-23 after the Harris T.

Maybe Underschiever will blame him.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 10:28:11 PM
Looks like a bunch of posters have already hit the portal. Custard may rename the place BoilerHQ2.

I knew LKDog would leave.  I will be taking victory laps all over his putrid takes.

I am the only Illini insider on the internet.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:28:15 PM
Pathetic. Having Northwestern chanting “little brother” at us. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:28:50 PM
So happy to hear Bruce Weber laughing after this one.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:29:36 PM
I knew LKDog would leave.  I will be taking victory laps all over his putrid takes.

I am the only Illini insider on the internet.

Everyone does enjoy your sweaty videos, Squeaky.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:56 PM
Yes, it is the refs' fault Illinois has no offense and turnsover the ball.

Their inconsistency is frustrating, and Hawkins fucking sucks and needs to see more bench
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:31:33 PM
So happy to hear Bruce Weber laughing after this one.

Icing on the cake? 🤮 😭
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:33:03 PM
Their inconsistency is frustrating, and Hawkins fucking sucks and needs to see more bench

Yeah he’s a turnover machine. He plays like a baby deer or giraffe learning how to walk. His mind is going too fast for his body and vice versa. It’s awkward and hard to watch.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:33:37 PM
Their inconsistency is frustrating, and Hawkins fucking sucks and needs to see more bench

To the contrary, the problem is that they have been consistent since beating Texas. Consistently bad.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: wonky73 on January 04, 2023, 10:34:34 PM
I officially request we change this board to a women's team only board.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:36:35 PM
Their inconsistency is frustrating, and Hawkins fucking sucks and needs to see more bench

It's almost like running offense through a turnover machine who's afraid to shoot is never a good idea.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 04, 2023, 10:39:57 PM
To the contrary, the problem is that they have been consistent since beating Texas. Consistently bad.

Yeah the upper classmen have been extremely disappointing, gotta bring it every night and they haven't
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 10:43:39 PM
https://twitter.com/ecnerwal23/status/1610856597684736002?s=46&t=67czPx1pyTkT0L1rAWUesA

This
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 10:46:17 PM
Its clear Skyy Clark can't defend anyone, and Underwood hates having to play him.

Ty Rodgers is an undersized 4 that has no place on the team

Mayer is a 1 on 1 ball hog that nobody likes playing with.

Shannon has basically 2 moves.  The hard drive with his left hand, and the rainbow 3.  That's it. And if the 3 isn't falling, he's nothing.

Hawkins is an indecisive turnover machine playing way too far from the basket.

Harris/Epps/Dainja appear to be doing as well as can be expected.
Melendez is counting the days till he hits the portal and get on a team that plays team ball.

All in all, its a shitty team, with mediocre individual talent, ,and non-existent coaching.  Like a bad AAU team.

And look at the roster next year.  Probably not getting better given how bad Underwood is at working in 1 and dones.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:48:57 PM
Underachiever blaming the kids for fouling. Says the D is actually great!!! Unbelievable.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:49:28 PM
Now says not driving enough to the basket to get Free Shots.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:50:02 PM
Alleges they are not running the offense...
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Gokuwearsorange/blue on January 04, 2023, 10:50:30 PM
Hawkins is the farthest thing from a leader you would want. Clark has been disappointing all year. Melendez has looked lost and lazy off the ball all year. Underwood apparently can't draw up half court sets to get his best players the ball.

There are so many things wrong with this team.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 10:51:02 PM
Alleges they are not running the offense...

Which...kinda falls on the coach, no?
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:56:58 PM
Which...kinda falls on the coach, no?

One would think.....
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:58:33 PM
I officially request we change this board to a women's team only board.

Maybe the players on the ladies' and mens' teams can claim to switch genders...
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:00:23 PM
I have not watched the game yet. Have it on video.

Looked at the box.

Mayer, Shannon, and Epps foul out.

Harris 0 points, 4 fouls in 9 minutes.

40 - 10 free throw disparity. How is that possible?

I would be interested in LK's take.



Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 04, 2023, 11:08:29 PM
40 - 10 free throw disparity. How is that possible?

Jacking up close to thirty threes and not moving the ball into the paint would be my guess.

I'm pretty sure 8 out of our 10 free throws came late in the game when we were in desperation comeback mode and they kept fouling us for some reason
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:10:02 PM
Clark and Melendez are playing with the same type of injury (shoulder) that plagued Trent Frazier and Jacob Grandson late last season. My impression is it is more nagging and painful than serious. Clark is playing with a shoulder brace.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:13:05 PM
Clark and Melendez are playing with the same type of injury (shoulder) that plagued Trent Frazier and Jacob Grandson late last season. My impression is it is more nagging and painful than serious. Clark is playing with a shoulder brace.

You may want to watch the game before commenting. It is worse than you can imagine. Like Underachiever's losses the first weekend of the Tournament.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:18:26 PM
People are bitching about the way Clark and Melendez are playing. It is relevant that  neither one is 100%.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 11:22:18 PM
Clark and Melendez are playing with the same type of injury (shoulder) that plagued Trent Frazier and Jacob Grandson late last season. My impression is it is more nagging and painful than serious. Clark is playing with a shoulder brace.

Northwestern shot 32% and won by 10+.  That's all you need to know. 
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:23:37 PM
People are bitching about the way Clark and Melendez are playing. It is relevant that  neither one is 100%.

Watch the game and get back to us, Nichi.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:26:33 PM
Watch the game and get back to us, Nichi.

Clark and Melendez have been struggling much of the season.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:27:29 PM
Clark and Melendez have been struggling much of the season.

They are not the only ones.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 11:28:17 PM
Clark and Melendez have been struggling much of the season.

Clark sucks.  Thats all there is too it.

Melendez is struggling bc he's still trying to play team basketball with 3 ball hogs.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 04, 2023, 11:30:07 PM
A season like this is where you were fucked having Adam Miller and Curbelo transfer out.  Those 2 would be your veteran backcourt on this team.

But Underwood isn't just a poor coach, he's a poor GM.  Bringing in a bunch of mercernaries isn't a way to build a team.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:37:22 PM
Northwestern shot 32% and won by 10+.  That's all you need to know.

They made 32-40 free throws and shot 7-18 from three.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:41:24 PM
If Curbelo were here; cinimod would be ripping on him.

Ace puppy is still a spot up shooter.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:42:42 PM
Is it too early to start worrying about qualifying for the NCAA Tournament? If PAMan can start worrying about FTs after 1 game, I think I can start worrying about the NCAAs after 14.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:43:53 PM
If Curbelo were here; cinimod would be ripping on him.

Ace puppy is still a spot up shooter.

Where does “Ace puppy” come from? I’ve heard it referenced, but don’t understand it.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:47:39 PM
Where does “Ace puppy” come from? I’ve heard it referenced, but don’t understand it.

Iirc, Adam Miller's social media handle is Ace Wolf. LK Dog, who actually knows some ball, calls him ace puppy.

Miller transferred, ostensibly because he did not like being a catch and shoot off the ball guard. He wanted more lead guard opportunities. I am hearing he is even more of a spot up shooter for LSU.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 04, 2023, 11:54:02 PM
One thing. Unlike Cinimod, I am not an insider. I did once have breakfast at a Holiday Inn Jr.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:00:51 AM
Iirc, Adam Miller's social media handle is Ace Wolf. LK Dog, who actually knows some ball, calls him ace puppy.

Miller transferred, ostensibly because he did not like being a catch and shoot off the ball guard. He wanted more lead guard opportunities. I am hearing he is even more of a spot up shooter for LSU.

Thanks
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 05, 2023, 01:34:39 AM
LK Dog, who actually knows some ball,

You and him don't know jack shit.  I've embarrassed both of you. Now run along back to Illinois Loyalty where you can "rah rah rah go team".

I put my name on the line. Made assessments off all the guys and team literally 9 months ago.  Flat out exactly what I said would happen,. is happening. 
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 05:42:23 AM
Yeah the upper classmen have been extremely disappointing, gotta bring it every night and they haven't
Every day guys replaced with not tonight guys.
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Post by: illinicalvin on January 05, 2023, 07:45:46 AM
A season like this is where you were fucked having Adam Miller and Curbelo transfer out.  Those 2 would be your veteran backcourt on this team.

But Underwood isn't just a poor coach, he's a poor GM.  Bringing in a bunch of mercernaries isn't a way to build a team.
We can agree he's a mediocre GM because this isn't the 1st year where we've wound up with a team of confusing spare parts but Curbelo is going to lead a Big East team to a 9th place finish and Miller is a step up from RJM but is not any better of a shooter than Shannon, Mayer, or Epps, and can't play point.
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Post by: illinicalvin on January 05, 2023, 07:47:55 AM
You may want to watch the game before commenting. It is worse than you can imagine. Like Underachiever's losses the first weekend of the Tournament.
It did have Loyola vibes but like the junior high version.
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Post by: IVMP on January 05, 2023, 08:03:30 AM
Horrible game. Horrible team. Horrible officials.

Coleman Hawkins should get the Ralph Malph treatment. Just hold the ball and wait for someone else to come and take it.

Dainja clearly is STILL practicing how to throw an outlet pass from a defensive rebound. Again, Ralph Malph treatment.

Hate to agree with Dominic, but Clark does suck. He does appear to be injured, and it would have been good if Harris had not picked up two fouls in the blink of an eye.

Again, this team sucks. Looks like we're Temp0-4 and on the way to 0-4!
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Post by: ILLINICHIEF on January 05, 2023, 08:10:15 AM
Had such high hopes for this season....almost even travelled to Vegas ( i hate Vegas)....glad I didn't. This team is a collective soul of nothing. Empty trips, 3'3'3' and again 1 more, we missed 4 let's shoot some more.

BU doesn't seem to have brought this team together at all...

Epps/Harris are our bright spots along with Mayer, (at times), TSJ could play half as well always as his scowl seems to be, we might be better.

Dain has alot of talent, doesn't seem the IQ is always there though, Hawkins should be balling out by now, he is not. Skyy will be back strong, but not for long I think. Melendez is a quiet kid, but busts his ass and still somehow looks disinterested all the time?

Transfer Portal next year prediction: Skyy, Hawkins, Melendez I would think for sure based on so far this season.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: frankiew on January 05, 2023, 08:27:45 AM
Is this the earliest for the "I can't wait for these players to leave" talk has begun?
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Post by: Chickengeorge on January 05, 2023, 08:28:24 AM
Is Goode coming back this year? What about frenchie?
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Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:47:27 AM
Is Goode coming back this year? What about frenchie?

Yes he’s suppose to be this season. I really think Goode being out has hurt us a lot. I think he’s being the leadership to the team in the court. I’d put Perrin (Frenchie) in now for Hawkins to send a message. If we’re gonna lose and play like shit, do it trying something different. We now know who the players are out there losing us games. They all need better attitudes.
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Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:50:59 AM
I can’t imagine Goode is the difference that makes this team good(e).
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Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
I can’t imagine Goode is the difference that makes this team good(e).

I think with his maturity he could bring the lacking leadership needed. Now whether or not that leads to more wins, who knows.
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Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 09:13:20 AM
I think with his maturity he could bring the lacking leadership needed. Now whether or not that leads to more wins, who knows.

I’ll take better shooting and defense over sophomore leadership from a guy who averaged 2 and 1.8 last year
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Post by: IVMP on January 05, 2023, 09:28:16 AM
I have not watched the game yet. Have it on video.

Looked at the box.

Mayer, Shannon, and Epps foul out.

Harris 0 points, 4 fouls in 9 minutes.

40 - 10 free throw disparity. How is that possible?

I would be interested in LK's take.

This is like the third post where you cry out pitifully for a departed member to offer his "expert" take. As Keanu Reeves said at the end of Point Break, he's not coming back.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 05, 2023, 09:35:37 AM
Is this the earliest for the "I can't wait for these players to leave" talk has begun?

Not sure, but I do enjoy the idea that everyone sucks and we should just keep cycling through transfers every season. It's worked out so well.
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 10:15:52 AM
This is like the third post where you cry out pitifully for a departed member to offer his "expert" take. As Keanu Reeves said at the end of Point Break, he's not coming back.

Fuck you for missing the point asshole.

Oh, when our resident sociopath leaves, he'll be back.

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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
Fuck you for missing the point asshole.

Have you watched the game yet?
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
Not sure, but I do enjoy the idea that everyone sucks and we should just keep cycling through transfers every season. It's worked out so well.

Illini Guardians may want to focus funds on the football team. The ROI not looking good right now.
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 10:37:06 AM
You and him don't know jack shit.  I've embarrassed both of you. Now run along back to Illinois Loyalty where you can "rah rah rah go team".

I put my name on the line. Made assessments off all the guys and team literally 9 months ago.  Flat out exactly what I said would happen,. is happening.

You make idiotic comments constantly. There is an old saying that a stopped clock is right twice a day.

A healthy emotionally  mature Curbelo might have helped. That didn't happen.

Miller would help on defense, but he did not accept his role on offense until he transferred. That happens a lot and it's going to get worse.

Rodgers and Clark have had struggles typical of top 50 freshmen, and Clark is playing with a shoulder injury. Writing them off now is just stupid.

Melendez is playing with a shoulder injury too. I'd attribute his struggles to that rather than he is somehow the only one playing team ball.
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Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 10:43:08 AM
Gone are the days of developing freshman and sophomore players that are ranked highly. They either find instant success or they’re gone. You’ll be hard pressed to find players to stick around at all when things aren’t going well. In today’s age, Deron Williams would’ve been gone in the transfer portal after his freshman campaign.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 05, 2023, 10:54:38 AM
I can’t imagine Goode is the difference that makes this team good(e).

me either
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 10:59:52 AM
I'm watching the game. NU playing very aggressively on both ends. Harris with 2 quick fouls. UI missing wide open threes.

On paper; it's a good mix of talent and should be a good shooting team. Just shoot a decent percentage from three, the whole complexion changes.
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Post by: Chickengeorge on January 05, 2023, 11:02:08 AM
Aside from RJ's 60% the prior year (which was clearly a fluke), Goode was our best returning 3 point shooter.
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Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:02:53 AM
This is like the third post where you cry out pitifully for a departed member to offer his "expert" take. As Keanu Reeves said at the end of Point Break, he's not coming back.

I love me a good Point Break reference.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 11:05:57 AM
They not only miss threes; they miss them badly. They look like bricks when they launch them. That affects everything else.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Dominic on January 05, 2023, 11:07:10 AM
Have you watched the game yet?

This joker also claimed to have missed the Mizzou game.

What are you even doing on an Illini messageboard if you aren’t watching the games?
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:07:46 AM
Welp, it’s become obvious, we’ll know if this team is going anywhere on Jan. 16th. Ironically, same day we’ll know if our free shots are a fluke or something to worry about. And unfortunately, Jan 16th is closing in fast.
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Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 11:13:43 AM
This joker also claimed to have missed the Mizzou game.

What are you even doing on an Illini messageboard if you aren’t watching the games?

I don’t know, ask Tempo…
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:17:50 AM
I don’t know, ask Tempo…

LOL.
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 11:29:51 AM
This joker also claimed to have missed the Mizzou game.

What are you even doing on an Illini messageboard if you aren’t watching the games?

Why is a sociopath posting here?
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:30:58 AM
I watch the vast majority of Illini basketball games.
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Post by: ILLove1997 on January 05, 2023, 11:48:30 AM
They not only miss threes; they miss them badly. They look like bricks when they launch them. That affects everything else.

the crazy part is that most of the time (or at least early in the game last night) they are wide open looks, its got to be mental with these guys
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 12:14:49 PM
We're 19th in 3 pt attempts per game and 239th, out of 352, in percentage.
We don't make many but try to make up for it with volume.
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 12:19:07 PM
the crazy part is that most of the time (or at least early in the game last night) they are wide open looks, its got to be mental with these guys

Or, they are not good shooters.
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 12:22:27 PM
I watch the vast majority of Illini basketball games.

I usually do too. I have an unresolved  DTV issue involving ESPN at the moment.

Berry mugs Shannon. Foul on Shannon..
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 12:25:07 PM
We're 19th in 3 pt attempts per game and 239th, out of 352, in percentage.
We don't make many but try to make up for it with volume.

Great coaching going on. Maybe start bench guys for being lazy and taking 3s instead of  going to the basket or passing the ball?
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 12:25:58 PM
Epps, Clark, and Melendez used to be good shooters.

Dainja can't buy a foul.
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 12:26:12 PM
I have an unresolved  DTV issue involving ESPN at the moment.

And how does that impact watching Illini basketball right now?
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 12:29:04 PM
Great coaching going on. Maybe start bench guys for being lazy and taking 3s instead of  going to the basket or passing the ball?

A few were bad shots. Most were good wide open shots in the flow of the offense. They should make 40% of those. Something is off.
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Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 12:34:54 PM
And how does that impact watching Illini basketball right now?

It was in response to the Missouri game. I am watching the NU game.
 How did Audige have only 1 foul?
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 12:40:05 PM
A few were bad shots. Most were good wide open shots in the flow of the offense. They should make 40% of those. Something is off.

Yes, something is off. They insist on shooting 3s in games where they keep missing them and do not try do something else, like take the ball to the basket.
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Post by: ILLove1997 on January 05, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
It was in response to the Missouri game. I am watching the NU game.
 How did Audige have only 1 foul?

well, the blind idiots wearing zebra costumes only saw one foul I guess...
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 05, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Yes, something is off. They insist on shooting 3s in games where they keep missing them and do not try do something else, like take the ball to the basket.

But enough about nearly all of the last decade of Illini basketball.
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 02:50:24 PM
But enough about nearly all of the last decade of Illini basketball.

Right? Is Groundhog Decade, the movie, a thing?
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 05, 2023, 03:00:44 PM
Sometimes I wonder if people buy into the idea that because 3-point baskets are worth more than 2-point baskets, it's OK to miss a lot of 3s. All that does is lead to a bunch of empty trips down the court.

Also, have I mentioned that Hawkins and Dainja should just hold the ball and wait for someone else, preferably another Illinois player, to come and take it?
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Post by: ILLINICHIEF on January 05, 2023, 05:59:06 PM
I can’t imagine Goode is the difference that makes this team good(e).

Goode imo is just BU mini me....he sees a player that may be more coachable/trainable/gullible? He is/will be using Goode as a go between imo...Goode is good, but if that is our leader of the team...well we may have other issues, we do!
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 05, 2023, 06:10:44 PM
Sometimes I wonder if people buy into the idea that because 3-point baskets are worth more than 2-point baskets, it's OK to miss a lot of 3s.

Shooting 33% from 3 is roughly equivalent to shooting 50% from 2. Except I think it's more complicated.

Yes, missed threes can lead to empty possessions. Or worse, long rebounds; which can result in transition offense for the other team.

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Post by: frankiew on January 06, 2023, 08:22:32 AM
I woke up tdoay and said...we win 3 out of next 4
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Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:13:38 AM
Needs to be like 8 out of next 9.
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Post by: Chickengeorge on January 06, 2023, 09:32:37 AM
Not sure about the authenticity of this, but it came from the Twitts so it's gotta be news.

https://twitter.com/TVallese/status/1610826204399153152?fbclid=IwAR1Gq88WhjLj3TPNuhahuMmfu-yWakKg4_x5CcnP2sYgfuTAEh02H3xSXqk
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Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:43:36 AM
Not sure about the authenticity of this, but it came from the Twitts so it's gotta be news.

https://twitter.com/TVallese/status/1610826204399153152?fbclid=IwAR1Gq88WhjLj3TPNuhahuMmfu-yWakKg4_x5CcnP2sYgfuTAEh02H3xSXqk

Seems like a non-issue to me.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 06, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
Shooting 33% from 3 is roughly equivalent to shooting 50% from 2. Except I think it's more complicated.

Yes, missed threes can lead to empty possessions. Or worse, long rebounds; which can result in transition offense for the other team.

Exactly. The team falls into that trap a lot. Along with many other traps.
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Post by: ILLove1997 on January 06, 2023, 11:36:12 AM
I will say one positive from the game was that with the ditching of the stupid switching defense, they held Northwestern (yeah I know a shitty shooting team)  to 32% from the field... they do however have to work on their free throw defense since NU shot 80% on 40 fucking attempts
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Post by: ThePAMan on January 06, 2023, 12:32:18 PM
I will say one positive from the game was that with the ditching of the stupid switching defense, they held Northwestern (yeah I know a shitty shooting team)  to 32% from the field... they do however have to work on their free throw defense since NU shot 80% on 40 fucking attempts

You may need to wait until Jan 16th to comment on Free Shot defense.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: IVMP on January 06, 2023, 01:51:39 PM
The free throw defense equates to not fouling 40 feet from the basket, or with 2 seconds on the shot clock.
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Post by: ILLove1997 on January 06, 2023, 02:22:04 PM
The free throw defense equates to not fouling 40 feet from the basket, or with 2 seconds on the shot clock.

or in Sincere Harris's case, 2 seconds into the game
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: illiniray on January 06, 2023, 02:38:52 PM
Exactly. The team falls into that trap a lot. Along with many other traps.

It helps to have guards who can track down long rebounds.
Title: Re: NUrds
Post by: ThePAMan on January 06, 2023, 02:52:11 PM
It helps to have guards like who can track down long rebounds.

Positionless basketball is the wave of the future.