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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 12:11:47 PM
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Fields delivers strike to St. Brown. Hurt. 3 penalties in like first 4 plays.
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I don’t usually do 50/50 bets but should have played the over. I expect a lot of points, especially for Philly. Wouldn’t be surprised if they put up close to 50 themselves.
48.5 seems like easy money.
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Fuck, Tevin Jenkins getting carted off.
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Nothing obvious. Hopefully just a stinger.
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Jesus, Kmet caught from behind by a DE.
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Hate that call.
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Nice hands, Pettis.
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Hurts didn’t look like an MVP on that play. Terrible interception.
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Fields looking sharp so far. Pass to Pettis was ever so slightly behind him, but other than that perfect.
Fields has like 3-4 runs already halfway through 1st SMH.
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Suh is such a dirty bitch. That was a shot to the head.
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JFC calm down on the Fields running plays FML
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Could probably put that sack on Fields. Needs to find Jones crossing over the middle of the field. But you’ll get that when your QB is a touchdown to check down guy. Needs to throw that one.
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Oddly both offenses struggling out of the gate. I honestly think the designed runs by Fields are slowing the offense.
Jenkins with a neck injury will not return.
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Nice pass outside the numbers by Fields (to Pettis).
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Nice pass protection…shit call by Getsy. Offense making some plays but can’t sustain anything. Party due to play-calling IMO.
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Still think there will be some points scored, but no 0-0 1st quarter hurts that over.
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Great break up by Johnson.
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Fields is outplaying the MVP favorite midway through 2nd quarter.
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Kmet beaten badly on the outside, Fields fumbles. Recovered Bears.
Fields with another crazy run!
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Holy shit he does it again!
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Holy shit he does it again!
He really could have used a year holding a clipboard next to Getsy, though.
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Holy shit he does it again!
I was wondering when someone would break my streak! Lol
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Santos can't kick for shit anymore
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Santos can't kick for shit anymore
Legit bad.
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You can’t tell me it doesn’t amp your team up when they see the QB out there with a cape on.
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While the talent largely sucks, I’m pretty sure Eberflus can coach.
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Fields is outplaying the MVP favorite midway through 2nd quarter.
You can say that again
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PAMan’s guy Hurts throws a 2nd terrible interception. MVP award slipping away in real time.
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Easily Fields’ worst pass there.
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Leatherwood beaten badly two plays in a row.
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No confidence at all in Santos.
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That drive stunk all the way around.
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Wow, Eberflus just punked Santos with that decision. I think you need to kick that. You’re not holding the Eagles in check the whole game.
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Santos refused apparently
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The Alex Leatherwood experiment may not take long to evaluate.
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Santos refused apparently
Wow, really?! I missed that.
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Kicker tryout coming next week.
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A couple minutes left in the first half and Fields has outplayed Hurts by a mile.
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Wow, really?! I missed that.
Yeah I guess it was too windy for him to give it a shot. I don't think I've ever seen a kicker refuse a kick for something other than injury.
Add kicker to the list of offseason needs.
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Wonder what Cody Parkey is up to these days?
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Can’t remember when I last chose to watch the Bears over RedZone. I haven’t changed the channel once.
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That D line gets no pressure at all. Great throw by Hurts there.
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Was hoping the Bears would get a top on 3rd. Wanted to see if the Bears could put up some points with 1 minute left.
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So much for my over prediction lol
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How is this defense holding Philly to 3 points?
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Great call on the QB draw. Hurts could have jogged that in from 22 and basically did.
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Pretty sure I could have scored with all that open field lol
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I’ve never seen that much open space on an NFL field.
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This O line can’t pass block at all…
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The Bears don’t throw a lot because Fields can’t pass!
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Suburban Roquan Smith hurt.
I hope Jenkins is ok.
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Great throw and catch on pretty good coverage by Jaylon there.
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Bears’ defense wearing down. This is gonna get ugly most likely.
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I don’t really want to see Fields running the rest of the day. Let’s work on short passing game.
Fields sacked again. 3 Eagles with 2 sacks already.
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Seriously. Crossing routes and screens rest of the game…
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Over might be reachable yet.
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How about a slant pass??? Anyone remember those?
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Good thing we didn’t cut Pringle. That would have been stupid.
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Paging DrInTheFlat. DrInTheFlat….
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A pass to the flat! PaMan just creamed himself
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A pass to the flat! PaMan just creamed himself
Nah, it was all Montgomery. Would rather have real quarterback like Trevor Siemian.
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That turnover by Sanders put the Bears right back in this.
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Jaylon Jones having a good day. A lot of Jaylons in our defensive backfield lol
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Velus Jones was a bad pick.
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Can we just cut Velus Jones Jr please. That appears to be a very bad pick.
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Hurts has thrown about 3 beautiful balls today but otherwise has been quite bad.
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Can we just cut Velus Jones Jr please. That appears to be a very bad pick.
It’s hard to put into words how much I hated that pick.
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Devonta Smith balling out today.
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Bears are very much in this game. C’mon, we need this loss.
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I’m really worried the Vikings will have nothing to play for last game of year. I’d love to see Nathan Peterman start that game!
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Doink!
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Wow, hope that doink doesn’t cost us the #2 pick. Or Jalen Carter.
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Eagles went from 86% favorite to 74% after that doink. Need Velus to step up and fumble another one.
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Wow, Fields. Amazing athlete.
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Uh oh, he’s dinged up.
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Wonder ThePAMan is.
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Fields to locker room. Doesn’t look serious but bad enough to leave field. At this point, I’m ok with bubble-wrapping him for rest of year.
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AJ brown with big play. Great hustle by Brisker to save TD.
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This secondary has a promising future.
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Webster plays for the Bears. Who knew?
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Bears not dead yet. That’s what Fields’ running can do.
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Pringle was wide the fuck open
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Should have just taken the sack on the TD pass. He was essentially in the grasp.
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A good loss.
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A good loss.
Damn straight! Hope Tevin Jenkins is ok.
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What we learned today:
NFC sucks. Means the NFC rep will probably win the Super Bowl.
Eagles may just only win the playoff bye week. They blow too. What an underwhelming performance.
150 yards passing and 90 yards passing net. Fields still can't pass worth a shit. At least he didn't throw it to the other team in the 4th quarter.
Need to draft a kicker as the current one sucks.
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Lol what a clown
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Lol what a clown
Correct, you are one. Fields sucks as a QB.
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Maybe we can tell on Jan 16th whether he is a real QB or not. Hahahahaha.
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I'm sure all The Twitter and Scors clowns are excited by the 90 net yards passing today. Morons.
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The NFL sucks even worse than normal this year. I feel like all the best teams are kind of mediocre.
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The NFL sucks even worse than normal this year. I feel like all the best teams are kind of mediocre.
Are you even watching it?
Parity is what the higher ups wanted afterall.
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What we learned today:
NFC sucks. Means the NFC rep will probably win the Super Bowl.
Eagles may just only win the playoff bye week. They blow too. What an underwhelming performance.
150 yards passing and 90 yards passing net. Fields still can't pass worth a shit. At least he didn't throw it to the other team in the 4th quarter.
Need to draft a kicker as the current one sucks.
The offensive line literally can’t pass block. I’m not sure it would be an exaggeration to say there is immediate heavy pressure on 80% of 5 step drops. I saw Alex Leatherwood let his man run right by him two plays in a row.
In all seriousness, can anyone here remember a worse wr corps than what Justin Fields is working with right now in the last 15 years? On any team?
That’s not to say Fields is where he needs to be as a passer. He’s not. But I honestly cannot remember an offensive unit this bad, and yet they are still putting up 25-30 most games.
For one to look at this team and say “Justin Fields is the primary problem” is a moronically stupid take.
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OMG the 13-1 Eagles didn’t blow out the Bears! THEY SUCK!!!
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I’ll bet PAMan thought the ‘85 Bears were fraudulent after the Miami game.
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PAMan the night of the Miami loss in 1985 (with mouthful of giardiniera): “They suck! Can’t even beat Miami! Season’s over! McCaskeys! (Chomp, chomp, chomp)
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For one to look at this team and say “Justin Fields is the primary problem” is a moronically stupid take.
I'm sure you will let us know when you find this Straw Man.
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I’ll bet PAMan thought the ‘85 Bears were fraudulent after the Miami game.
The 22 Eagle are now the 85 Bear? Where did you get this take? Parkins? Twitter? Bernstein?
You stoned again?
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I'm sure you will let us know when you find this Straw Man.
Yes. Has anyone at any point ever said that?
BTW, is Tempoing still a thing?
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I'm sure you will let us know when you find this Straw Man.
I think I’ve yet to see you blame anyone but Fields for the Bears struggles. What other conclusions can I draw? It’s not a straw man when the only person you blame is Justin Fields.
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Yes. Has anyone at any point ever said that?
BTW, is Tempoing still a thing?
PAMan fails to acknowledge things like St. Brown dropping a perfect pass on 4th down to end a game. If you think he’s blamed anyone but Fields, the McCaskeys, and possibly Poles for the Bears’ problems you haven’t been keeping up.
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It’s possible he’s acknowledged Velus Jones sucks, but that’s universally accepted.
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BTW, is Tempoing still a thing?
Yes, and it’s largely purposeful. Like in this thread.
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Yes. Has anyone at any point ever said that?
BTW, is Tempoing still a thing?
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgB0WNYj/EF77-AEB4-666-F-4907-9-E94-670-EEE3238-D5.png) (https://postimg.cc/k2PYmSm8)
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Yes. Has anyone at any point ever said that?
BTW, is Tempoing still a thing?
Here was his response to the above. Does this sound like a voice of reason, willing to spread blame around to you?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv5MFX3Y/8-B49-E9-AB-81-AF-4-A4-D-B1-E3-E8-B304-B09-CDA.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The voice of reason.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCY1nwb8/3-AC4-DD90-0049-4508-A5-D1-F123-D0-AEA5-C1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzHB9mzG)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/FHbhYVY2/D833-CCFF-DB9-D-40-BA-9892-3-C1449-BB3-C91.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnKB587r)
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I want PAMan to scrap his current profile and start using the name “TheVoiceofReason.”
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(https://i.postimg.cc/kgB0WNYj/EF77-AEB4-666-F-4907-9-E94-670-EEE3238-D5.png) (https://postimg.cc/k2PYmSm8)
That was a fake quote you made up. You really can't make this shit up.
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Completely factual
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The voice of reason.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCY1nwb8/3-AC4-DD90-0049-4508-A5-D1-F123-D0-AEA5-C1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzHB9mzG)
LOL
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I think I’ve yet to see you blame anyone but Fields for the Bears struggles. What other conclusions can I draw? It’s not a straw man when the only person you blame is Justin Fields.
You intentionally forget the post, even though you responded to it, where I said only 5 or so guys from the starting 22 should be starting next year.
Are you stoned again?
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Here was his response to the above. Does this sound like a voice of reason, willing to spread blame around to you?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv5MFX3Y/8-B49-E9-AB-81-AF-4-A4-D-B1-E3-E8-B304-B09-CDA.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
This makes zero sense. You must be stoned again.
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You intentionally forget the post, even though you responded to it, where I said only 5 or so guys from the starting 22 should be starting next year.
Are you stoned again?
And yet your direct 98% of the criticism to Fields, and expect him to overcome this single-handedly. Your unreasonable expectations of him are literally the inspiration for my avatar.
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The 22 Eagle are now the 85 Bear? Where did you get this take? Parkins? Twitter? Bernstein?
You stoned again?
Still waiting for an explanation how the 22 Bear are the equivalent of the 85 Dolphin that lost the AFC Championship that year.
It is tough for you to top some of your more hyperbolic arguments, but I think you did here comparing the 85 Bear and Dolphon to the 22 Eagle and Bear.
Your sig, as it contains my quote on deranged JFC fans, has been proven by your stupid arguments.
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And yet your direct 98% of the criticism to Fields, and expect him to overcome this single-handedly. Your unreasonable expectations of him are literally the inspiration for my avatar.
98% is high, but it is the most important position on the team. The team sucks and he is not a good passer, yet, they could have been in the playoff hunt given the close games and 4th quarter leads they have had. Which goes to Custard's point.
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Still waiting for an explanation how the 22 Bear are the equivalent of the 85 Dolphin that lost the AFC Championship that year.
It is tough for you to top some of your more hyperbolic arguments, but I think you did here comparing the 85 Bear and Dolphon to the 22 Eagle and Bear.
Your sig, as it contains my quote on deranged JFC fans, has been proven by your stupid arguments.
Hyperbolic is saying “Justin Fields could have used a year standing next to Getsy.” And placing the majority of the Bears’ struggles on him. It’s asinine.
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You only acknowledged the Bears have terrible starters after I asked you to go on record of it for like two weeks. Literally had to ask you multiples times before you’d answer.
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Hyperbolic is saying “Justin Fields could have used a year standing next to Getsy.” And placing the majority of the Bears’ struggles on him. It’s asinine.
The guy can't comprehend an NFL offense. That's why they changed the offense. He could use the time to watch and study. There are a few guys who did that and were/are great QBs. Including the guy up north.
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The guy can't comprehend an NFL offense. That's why they changed the offense. He could use the time to watch and study. There are a few guys who did that and were/are great QBs. Including the guy up north.
You are so fucking dumb.
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You only acknowledged the Bears have terrible starters after I asked you to go on record of it for like two weeks. Literally had to ask you multiples times before you’d answer.
Ok. He still plays the most important position on the field. He obviously does not play D, except when trying to tackle the guy who intercepts his passes in the 4th quarter.
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You are so fucking dumb.
Completely factual. Laydown noted.
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The guy can't comprehend an NFL offense. That's why they changed the offense. He could use the time to watch and study. There are a few guys who did that and were/are great QBs. Including the guy up north.
The Voice of Reason, folks.
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Completely factual. Laydown noted.
You’re right, it’s completely factual that you are dumb.
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The Voice of Reason, folks.
And it was completely factual. He cannot run a regular NFL offense. We all fucking saw it for weeks.
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You’re right, it’s completely factual that you are dumb.
Looks like you got the bong out early today. No Uber pickups?
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You’re right, it’s completely factual that you are dumb.
Tempo tempoing!
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And it was completely factual. He cannot run a regular NFL offense. We all fucking saw it for weeks.
This guy watches this offensive line and these receivers and comes to this conclusion. Literally some of the dumbest shit ever posted here.
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This guy watches this offensive line and these receivers and comes to this conclusion. Literally some of the dumbest shit ever posted here.
When he had time to pass he made bad throws and bad decisions despite guys being open. Go watch those early season QB videos on The YouTube. They changed him to a Wingback because the kid couldn't play QB. We've been through all of this.
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Expecting a 2nd year QB to be proficient right off the bat in a new offense with piss poor talent around him is very reasonable. Incredibly reasonable.
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Expecting a 2nd year QB to be proficient right off the bat in a new offense with piss poor talent around him is very reasonable. Incredibly reasonable.
It would have been nice if he looked like an NFL QB in footwork and making reads.
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It would have been nice if he looked like an NFL QB in footwork and making reads.
Yes, because young quarterbacks in a new system rarely struggle. I’m sure Nagy coached him up real good year one, too.
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This is what you get when you draft an OSU QB. At some point the dumbshits in the NFL will learn the obvious.
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Yes, because young quarterbacks in a new system rarely struggle. I’m sure Nagy coached him up real good year one, too.
Struggling is fine and expected. Being unable to do basic NFL QB stuff isn't.
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I’ve posted numerous videos from multiple quarterbacking experts who have provided both positive and negative criticism of Fields. All of them agree they mostly like what they see. But their opinions do not matter. The opinions of PAMan, Hub Arkush, and Dan McNeil are the only opinions that matter.
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Struggling is fine and expected. Being unable to do basic NFL QB stuff isn't.
I doubt I’ve ever seen more free shots on a QB than I have this year. And they only throw it 20x a game.
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I went and listened to it, Hub was actually positive he can figure it out. That was not enough for the JFC Zealots Parkins and Cover Band Boy.
Hopefully he figures it out. There are 3 more years left on the contract. If he does not figure it out, he will be Mitch Trubisky Part 2.
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I doubt I’ve ever seen more free shots on a QB than I have this year. And they only throw it 20x a game.
You haven't watched Bengal games the past couple of years then.
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I’ve conceded many times Fields needs to improve in the passing game. But it’s hard to expect him to be highly proficient when they rarely do it. It’s either a RB run, QB run, or 5 step drop (which they can’t block). They need to run more quick hitters and work on the timing stuff.
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I’ve conceded many times Fields needs to improve in the passing game. But it’s hard to expect him to be highly proficient when they rarely do it. It’s either a RB run, QB run, or 5 step drop (which they can’t block). They need to run more quick hitters and work on the timing stuff.
There are reasons they are not doing that. Yes, the line is one of them. Yes, the receivers are another. And, again, the draft pick out of OSU is another.
I have advocated throwing 50 times a game so the kid can learn. I understand the perils of that. I also understand the perils of him continuing to run the current offense. Cam Newton took a beating and didn't last as long as he could have.
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He needs to get better, particularly on the lateral throws. I’d love to see some slants, crossers, and RB/WR screens. They just don’t seem to run many of them. Just 3 step drop stuff where he’s required to get rid of it quickly. I don’t expect him to ever lead the league in snap to release time because that would be negating a skill he is very elite at. But he needs to improve on the short stuff, and he clearly has done so (still room for more improvement), but according to the VeryReasonableMan he’s shown no improvement at all. That’s blatantly false.
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He and Cam aren’t directly comparable. Cam was basically a goal line back. They aren’t using Fields quite like that. Fields has actually taken less punishment since he’s been running IMO. But I agree, he can’t/shouldn’t be running 15-18x a game. That’s on the coaches, not him.
It’s also on the coaches when Cole Kmet is on an island against an elite pass rusher.
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He needs to get better, particularly on the lateral throws. I’d love to see some slants, crossers, and RB/WR screens. They just don’t seem to run many of them. Just 3 step drop stuff where he’s required to get rid of it quickly. I don’t expect him to ever lead the league in snap to release time because that would be negating a skill he is very elite at. But he needs to improve on the short stuff, and he clearly has done so (still room for more improvement), but according to the VeryReasonableMan he’s shown no improvement at all. That’s blatantly false.
I don't think that Straw Man said that. He said the Packer game was his best game passing to date.
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He and Cam aren’t directly comparable. Cam was basically a goal line back. They aren’t using Fields quite like that. Fields has actually taken less punishment since he’s been running IMO. But I agree, he can’t/shouldn’t be running 15-18x a game. That’s on the coaches, not him.
It’s also on the coaches when Cole Kmet is on an island against an elite pass rusher.
Point is that Cam was a big man who took a ton of hits, either running or in the pocket, and it shortened his career.
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Fran Tarkenton ran around a lot and played like 18 years. In an era where you could do whatever you wanted to a quarterback.
Also; the position is changing. Brady and Stafford aren’t the model anymore.
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Fran Tarkenton ran around a lot and played like 18 years. In an era where you could do whatever you wanted to a quarterback.
Also; the position is changing. Brady and Stafford aren’t the model anymore.
True, but guys were not as big and fast when Fran Tarkenton was running around as they are now. Cam took a beating. He paid the price for it. Could not throw at the end.
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Aren’t Brady and Stafford the last two QBs who won Super Bowls? The only “modern” QB to win a Bowl the last 8-9 seasons was Mahomes. I wouldn’t say that mold is dead just yet.
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Aren’t Brady and Stafford the last two QBs who won Super Bowls? The only “modern” QB to win a Bowl the last 8-9 seasons was Mahomes. I wouldn’t say that mold is dead just yet.
Sure, if literally everything else is in place you can still win with a highly proficient stationary quarterback. Look how they both did this year.
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People have been saying for 20+ years now that dual threat QBs were the way of the future yet traditional QBs have won 8-9 of last 10 Super Bowls. And it’s always the same old story. Guy comes in and runs like crazy and people talk about how he needs to develop as a passer but most of the time they get wrecked before they ever get to that level of development, and the cycle continues. The ones that have succeeded in any kind of longish term way have been the ones that were either complete freaks of nature, were smart enough to not take as many big hits, or both.
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I’ve said in this very forum that you have to be able to throw from the pocket when the game is on the line (and that’s why I think Lamar is a slightly flawed quarterback). Can Justin Fields get to the level of Mahomes or Allen? I don’t know. I hope so. Fields and Allen were not dissimilar their 2nd year. People like TheDipshitMan tend to forget that quarterbacks like Allen and Hurts needed some time to develop.
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I’ve said in this very forum that you have to be able to throw from the pocket when the game is on the line (and that’s why I think Lamar is a slightly flawed quarterback). Can Justin Fields get to the level of Mahomes or Allen? I don’t know. I hope so. Fields and Allen were not dissimilar their 2nd year. People like TheDipshitMan tend to forget that quarterbacks like Allen and Hurts needed some time to develop.
Running an offense where he runs as much as he passes is not going to aid in his development.
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Running an offense where he runs as much as he passes is not going to aid in his development.
And I’ve tried explaining to you numerous times:
1) he doesn’t call the plays
2) they know they can’t pass block
3) they know their receivers suck
4) running the ball (something they do very well) helps a bad defense
5) and yes, Fields isn’t where he should be as a passer
What about those points do you not understand?
It sounds to me like you have an issue with coaching, not Fields. Yet I don’t ever hear you ridicule the coaches. Just Fields.
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And I’ve tried explaining to you numerous times:
1) he doesn’t call the plays
2) they know they can’t pass block
3) they know their receivers suck
4) running the ball (something they do very well) helps a bad defense
5) and yes, Fields isn’t where he should be as a passer
What about those points do you not understand?
It sounds to me like you have an issue with coaching, not Fields. Yet I don’t ever hear you ridicule the coaches. Just Fields.
The coaches can only work with what they got. Getsy adapted to, among other things, having a guy at QB who is a Wingback. They scored far more points in so doing.
The defense sucks for a head coach who is a defensive guy.
At the end of the day, they don't trust Fields, the O line, or the receivers.
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The thing is, Tempo, we agree on some things. My point is that Fields' limitations as a QB are now recognized by Getsy, ergo the change to the Wingback offense. You, on the other hand, blame Getsy for not calling more pass plays.
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Lmao.
DipshitMan: “Fields can’t get better passing the ball if he’s always running it.”
Me: “He doesn’t call the plays.”
DipshitMan: “That’s because Getsy knows Fields can’t pass.”
Can’t make this idiocy up.
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Stop and read what you’re writing for once. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They weren’t passing the ball before they changed the fucking offense. You literally pull shit out of your ass and call it “logic.”
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The defense sucks for a head coach who is a defensive guy.
This is literally by fucking design. Did you not notice they traded the 3 best players on the defense? They literally have the least talented front 7 in the NFL. And a very inexperienced secondary. It’s a god damned miracle this team has been competitive.
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Worst front 7 (probably easily). Terrible pass blocking. Worst receiving corps I’ve probably ever seen (don’t think that’s an exaggeration); at least worst in memory. Quarterback who struggles to make simple throws (but also makes “wow” throws). Inexperienced secondary. And they’ve been in just about every game. I’m not 100% sold on Getsy (he’s had great moments and very bad ones), but I’m fairly certain Eberflus can coach. They look well coached and play hard despite losing like 6 in a row. This team is not talented. You’ve said yourself they maybe have 5 guys you want starting. And yet you expect wins and 300 yard passing games.
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Justin Fields the only quarterback to throw multiple touchdown passes with zero interceptions against the eagles this year BTW.
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Justin Fields the only quarterback to throw multiple touchdown passes with zero interceptions against the eagles this year BTW.
Impressive, and he did that with being the only qb under 135 yards passing.
Is he sidearming more passes to the flat since he got injured playing football ?
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I'm not disappointed this AM.
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Lmao.
DipshitMan: “Fields can’t get better passing the ball if he’s always running it.”
Me: “He doesn’t call the plays.”
DipshitMan: “That’s because Getsy knows Fields can’t pass.”
Can’t make this idiocy up.
Hilarious. The coaches know he sucks throwing the ball. That is why they won't let him throw the ball, even those slants, etc. you can't figure out why they won't let the guy who the majority of fans and analysts believe is a blossoming NFL Superstar throw.
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Worst front 7 (probably easily). Terrible pass blocking. Worst receiving corps I’ve probably ever seen (don’t think that’s an exaggeration); at least worst in memory. Quarterback who struggles to make simple throws (but also makes “wow” throws). Inexperienced secondary. And they’ve been in just about every game. I’m not 100% sold on Getsy (he’s had great moments and very bad ones), but I’m fairly certain Eberflus can coach. They look well coached and play hard despite losing like 6 in a row. This team is not talented. You’ve said yourself they maybe have 5 guys you want starting. And yet you expect wins and 300 yard passing games.
So the onside kick at the game was just for show. The Bear coached really were not trying to win. Got it.
Among those traded, who was actually playing well at the time?
This should have been in response to the "By design" post.
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Worst front 7 (probably easily). Terrible pass blocking. Worst receiving corps I’ve probably ever seen (don’t think that’s an exaggeration); at least worst in memory. Quarterback who struggles to make simple throws (but also makes “wow” throws). Inexperienced secondary. And they’ve been in just about every game. I’m not 100% sold on Getsy (he’s had great moments and very bad ones), but I’m fairly certain Eberflus can coach. They look well coached and play hard despite losing like 6 in a row. This team is not talented. You’ve said yourself they maybe have 5 guys you want starting. And yet you expect wins and 300 yard passing games.
Which goes to Custard's point that there are plenty of shitty teams.
It is not as if the Bear have had 4th quarter leads that they have blown.
This team COULD have enough wins that they would be in playoff consideration.
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I'm not disappointed this AM.
Just presenting “facts.” You claim to like those.
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Which goes to Custard's point that there are plenty of shitty teams.
It is not as if the Bear have had 4th quarter leads that they have blown.
This team COULD have enough wins that they would be in playoff consideration.
Just because they “could” doesn’t mean it’s reasonable to expect it. Any team with a 100 million in dead cap space can’t be expected to compete for the playoffs. And you claim to be the logic guy.
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Most dead cap space in NFL 2022.
1) Bears
2) Falcons
3) Texans
It’s almost like there’s a similarity here.
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Hilarious. The coaches know he sucks throwing the ball. That is why they won't let him throw the ball, even those slants, etc. you can't figure out why they won't let the guy who the majority of fans and analysts believe is a blossoming NFL Superstar throw.
Yep. Here’s a guy “spreading the blame,” folks. He’s the Donald Trump of HQ2. Talks out of both sides of his mouth.
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Which goes to Custard's point that there are plenty of shitty teams.
The NFL wanted parity. They got parity.
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So the onside kick at the game was just for show. The Bear coached really were not trying to win. Got it.
Among those traded, who was actually playing well at the time?
This should have been in response to the "By design" post.
You literally have the IQ of a walnut. The coaches aren’t trying to lose. I’ve said this multiple times. Poles stripped it down to put himself in a better position to win later. Which means the overwhelmingly likely result was being bad, an outcome Poles was clearly prepared to live with. Poles and the Bears prioritized the future over this year. This isn’t hard. Or shouldn’t be since you’re the “logic” guy.
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And if the Bears did make the playoffs, who are they going to beat once they were there?
The vision Poles had was abundantly clear. “We’re going to strip this down, you’re going to coach them up the best you can, and we’ll live with the results and build for the future.”
Any moron could see this.
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You literally have the IQ of a walnut. The coaches aren’t trying to lose. I’ve said this multiple times. Poles stripped it down to put himself in a better position to win later. Which means the overwhelmingly likely result was being bad, an outcome Poles was clearly prepared to live with. Poles and the Bears prioritized the future over this year. This isn’t hard. Or shouldn’t be since you’re the “logic” guy.
philadelphiaeagles.com/video/highlight-jalen-hurts-goes-completely-untouched-on-22-yard-td-run-via-qb-draw (http://philadelphiaeagles.com/video/highlight-jalen-hurts-goes-completely-untouched-on-22-yard-td-run-via-qb-draw)
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This is literally by fucking design. Did you not notice they traded the 3 best players on the defense? They literally have the least talented front 7 in the NFL. And a very inexperienced secondary. It’s a god damned miracle this team has been competitive.
I actually agree with this.
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philadelphiaeagles.com/video/highlight-jalen-hurts-goes-completely-untouched-on-22-yard-td-run-via-qb-draw (http://philadelphiaeagles.com/video/highlight-jalen-hurts-goes-completely-untouched-on-22-yard-td-run-via-qb-draw)
Yeah, I saw the play. What’s your point?
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Among those traded, who was actually playing well at the time?
This should have been in response to the "By design" post.
This post is also quite hilarious. Thinking you could trade Mack, Quinn, and Smith off of this particular roster and not make it worse is golden. Here’s what I’m sure Poles was thinking. Get rid of any contracts that are underperforming and free up cap space. I’m sure Poles would have loved it if Quinn had been playing out of his mind. He’d have traded him for a 2nd rounder instead of a 4th.
When I say “by design” I don’t mean Poles literally did it to be bad. He did it “knowing” they would be bad. It’s not rocket surgery to understand the difference. His primary goal was to get rid of expensive contracts that wouldn’t be here or he didn’t value (Smith), turn them into assets, and compete 2-3 years later. That doesn’t mean anyone was “trying” to go 1-16.
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This team COULD have enough wins that they would be in playoff consideration.
Playoffs?! Who cares about playoffs?! It’s like the NCAA tourney and Illini. If you don’t win it, it doesn’t matter. Amirite?!
AND there’s NO DAMN WAY the Bears have a shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, so what does it matter. Your own logic. So why settle for “mediocrity” and instead focus on the draft and building a team for the future…??
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Playoffs?! Who cares about playoffs?! It’s like the NCAA tourney and Illini. If you don’t win it, it doesn’t matter. Amirite?!
AND there’s NO DAMN WAY the Bears have a shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, so what does it matter. Your own logic. So why settle for “mediocrity” and instead focus on the draft and building a team for the future…??
He has no logic structure or consistency. He pulls things out of his ass and names it “logic.”
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Yeah, I saw the play. What’s your point?
That few NFL teams leave an entire section of the field defenseless against a QB who can run.
Now, this is the part where you make a comment about the McCaskeys and having a mouthful of Brown's Chicken, etc.
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That few NFL teams leave an entire section of the field defenseless against a QB who can run.
Now, this is the part where you make a comment about the McCaskeys and having a mouthful of Brown's Chicken, etc.
I have zero clue what your point is. But yeah, I agree it was a very bad play. George McCaskey’s fault? He shouldn’t have left his gap.
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I think he's saying maybe Poles called down with the defensive signals. :D
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Just presenting “facts.” You claim to like those.
Unsure whether you would know a fact if it was sucking on your cock.
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I think he's saying maybe Poles called down with the defensive signals. :D
I’ll meet you guys in the basement of that pizza joint in DC on Friday. Bring your AR-15s.
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Unsure whether you would know a fact if it was sucking on your cock.
Fact: Justin Fields only QB to throw multiple touchdown passes and zero interceptions against Eagles in 2022.
Fact: You’re a dipshit
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I’ll meet you guys in the basement of that pizza joint in DC on Friday. Bring your AR-15s.
If all I'm going to do is translate for you, are you buying ?
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If all I'm going to do is translate for you, are you buying ?
We’re going there to save the children. That’s it.
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We’re going there to save the children. That’s it.
If that's all we're doing, how about Casey's somewhere ?
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Fact: Justin Fields only QB to throw multiple touchdown passes and zero interceptions against Eagles in 2022.
Fact: You’re a dipshit
Says the guy who thinks Getsy does not know what a slant is because he refuses to call them for the Wingback who cannot pass.
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Says the guy who thinks Getsy does not know what a slant is because he refuses to call them for the Wingback who cannot pass.
I’m sure he knows what one is. Just doesn’t seem like he calls them. Can’t say the exact reason why. I’d love to ask him. Maybe I’ll tweet a couple beat reporters and see if they bite.
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I’m sure he knows what one is. Just doesn’t seem like he calls them. Can’t say the exact reason why. I’d love to ask him. Maybe I’ll tweet a couple beat reporters and see if they bite.
I think you could take a guess why, if you were honest.
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If that's all we're doing, how about Casey's somewhere ?
Think of the kids for once in your life. We are going to save them from HRC and Chuck Schumer.
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Playoffs?! Who cares about playoffs?! It’s like the NCAA tourney and Illini. If you don’t win it, it doesn’t matter. Amirite?!
AND there’s NO DAMN WAY the Bears have a shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, so what does it matter. Your own logic. So why settle for “mediocrity” and instead focus on the draft and building a team for the future…??
It's the NFL. Never can tell what is going to happen, who is going to get injured, etc. once you get in the playoffs.
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I have zero clue what your point is. But yeah, I agree it was a very bad play. George McCaskey’s fault? He shouldn’t have left his gap.
Least shocking post in the thread. Hahahaha.
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I think you could take a guess why, if you were honest.
If you’re being honest, there are likely multiple reasons.
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It's the NFL. Never can tell what is going to happen, who is going to get injured, etc. once you get in the playoffs.
I can tell you when you are lacking talent to begin with, then trade away your three most decorated players it’s likely not going to go well.
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Playoffs?! Who cares about playoffs?! It’s like the NCAA tourney and Illini. If you don’t win it, it doesn’t matter. Amirite?!
AND there’s NO DAMN WAY the Bears have a shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, so what does it matter. Your own logic. So why settle for “mediocrity” and instead focus on the draft and building a team for the future…??
I would also say that given how bad the QB has been at passing, he could use the extra week of practice that a playoff would bring, especially if the GM is just going to draft guys like Jones or Claypool anyway.
But this is a quality post, Judge Judy. Well done.
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I would also say that given how bad the QB has been at passing, he could use the extra week of practice that a playoff would bring, especially if the GM is just going to draft guys like Jones or Claypool anyway.
Sometimes your trolling is even more obvious.
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Sometimes your trolling is even more obvious.
I try not to be so obvious. You don't believe he could use an extra week of practice and an extra game?
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I’m not convinced it’s gonna make a big difference.
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I’m not convinced it’s gonna make a big difference.
Really? It would not hurt.
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Really? It would not hurt.
I think 3 1st rounders for that 2nd pick more likely to help.
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Fields looking sharp so far. Pass to Pettis was ever so slightly behind him, but other than that perfect.
Fields has like 3-4 runs already halfway through 1st SMH.
Hi PAMan.
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Hi PAMan.
It was ever so slightly 3 feet behind him. Lol
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It was ever so slightly 3 feet behind him. Lol
Pettis got his hands on it as I recall. Tough to do from 3 feet in front of it.
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It was ever so slightly 3 feet behind him. Lol
One of the disadvantages dinosaurs like you have in today’s world is that you fail to understand that people compile and share things like this (so your bullshit can be called out easily). Fast forward to 1:20 It was a pretty catchable ball that went right over his right arm. It went right over his right elbow.
https://youtu.be/xw6Jx3m07z0
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If Pettis tries to catch it with his hands instead of cradle it, he probably catches it.
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Pettis got his hands on it as I recall. Tough to do from 3 feet in front of it.
A Pettis drop, and not a Fields miss. Got it.
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A Pettis drop, and not a Fields miss. Got it.
Nice lay down.
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It was exactly what I said it was. Slightly behind him, yet catchable. It certainly wasn’t “3 feet behind him lol.” Thst ball was 15 inches from being on his chest.
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Nice lay down.
Ok, the ball was 3 feet behind where it should have been to a guy moving towards the sideline. What's he doing throwing it to the field side instead of the sideline anyway ?
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Ok, the ball was 3 feet behind where it should have been to a guy moving towards the sideline. What's he doing throwing it to the field side instead of the sideline anyway ?
Way to move the goalposts. Quarterback throws imperfect pass: News at 11.
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As someone with a PhD in passes in the flat, I can confidently say this was an imperfect, slightly behind the receiver pass into the flat. Not a well thrown ball, but catchable.
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I am available for therapy this afternoon if anyone needs it.
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As someone with a PhD in passes in the flat, I can confidently say this was an imperfect, slightly behind the receiver pass into the flat. Not a well thrown ball, but catchable.
Well from what I hear, you can’t disagree with “science,” so I guess it’s settled then!
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Well from what I hear, you can’t disagree with “science,” so I guess it’s settled then!
You can disagree with scientific consensus as long as you have more scientific study to back your opinion up. Otherwise your evidence is personal and anecdotal. Not the strongest scientific footing.
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Way to move the goalposts. Quarterback throws imperfect pass: News at 11.
it was not a good throw. HS kids can make that throw.
Tempo: ever so slightly behind him.
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it was not a good throw. HS kids can make that throw.
Tempo: ever so slightly behind him.
I’ve said multiple times “it wasn’t a good throw…”
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Mn, answer this question. Was the pass catchable?
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Mn, answer this question. Was the pass catchable?
I never said it wasn't. To you, it started out as ever so slightly behind him.
To people outside of your JFC fan club, it wasn't a good throw.
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I never said it wasn't. To you, it started out as ever so slightly behind him.
To people outside of your JFC fan club, it wasn't a good throw.
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I never said it wasn't. To you, it started out as ever so slightly behind him.
To people outside of your JFC fan club, it wasn't a good throw.
It it was catchable wouldn’t that be a pretty workable definition of “ever so slightly behind him?” Are you really going to die on this hill? Nitpick Hill?
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I’ve literally said multiple times it wasn’t a good throw. Being behind him (even slightly) would imply this. FFS
It was literally 15-18 inches from being a good (certainly decent) throw.
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I’ve literally said multiple times it wasn’t a good throw. Being behind him (even slightly) would imply this. FFS
It was literally 15-18 inches from being a good (certainly decent) throw.
36 inches from being a good throw.
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36 inches from being a good throw.
Sure thing, Captain. The ball literally bounces off his abdomen, so clearly not “3 feet behind him lol.”
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It it was catchable wouldn’t that be a pretty workable definition of “ever so slightly behind him?” Are you really going to die on this hill? Nitpick Hill?
It was behind him as his momentum was going to the sideline and he twisted back for the ball. It was also thrown to the same side as the defender.
It would have been a very good catch given his full momentum going to the sideline. I would not expect Pettis, or anyone on the Bear except maybe Moody, to come up with it.
I would say the worst part of the throw is that he threw it inside where the defender was. He was open and if the ball is thrown to the sideline side it should have been a first down, though Pettis catching a ball is never guaranteed.
I would think JFC would want that one back. Throwing on the run obviously can be tough, especially where he had a limited window in which to throw given where the defender was. Hopefully he learns from it.
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It was behind him as his momentum was going to the sideline and he twisted back for the ball. It was also thrown to the same side as the defender.
It would have been a very good catch given his full momentum going to the sideline. I would not expect Pettis, or anyone on the Bear except maybe Moody, to come up with it.
I would say the worst part of the throw is that he threw it inside where the defender was. He was open and if the ball is thrown to the sideline side it should have been a first down, though Pettis catching a ball is never guaranteed.
I would think JFC would want that one back. Throwing on the run obviously can be tough, especially where he had a limited window in which to throw given where the defender was. Hopefully he learns from it.
He almost hit him in the numbers.
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Never once said it was a good throw. But it was catchable. Would have been a good catch.
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He almost hit him in the numbers.
It was actually pretty close. Certainly not 3 feet behind him. But a well below average throw. Still catchable. AJ Brown makes that catch.
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But a well below average throw. A HS kid makes that throw..
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Lol
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Every other quarterback in the NFL, college, high school makes that throw perfectly every time.
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Watch the 2nd pick in last years’ draft for a while.
https://youtu.be/H8K--G3r7JM
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JFC has had a problem with passes in the flat all year, but he did throw a couple of good side armed ones last week.
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He’s definitely been better the last 6 weeks than he was the first 5. That’s not to say he’s been perfect, but when he’s got time most of his passes have been fine.