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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: ILLINICHIEF on October 20, 2021, 06:37:53 PM
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12-1 "IF" we meet Arkansas...13-0 if not Pre-season/off games mid season.
17-3 B1G season
29-4 If my counting is correct, going into B1G Tourney...we win that tourney and get a 1 seed in the Midwest Bracket.
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That would be our 2nd best record ever? Third?
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That would be our 2nd best record ever? Third?
2nd Best to 2005...It may be reaching abit, but I do think we have 2 all americans on this team and senior + leadership.
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Looks like more than just a few of us think this years team will be better than last year as well...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-gonzaga-ucla-preseason-top-25/1ak3dhubc7s621qdntk2poggfx
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Looks like more than just a few of us think this years team will be better than last year as well...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-gonzaga-ucla-preseason-top-25/1ak3dhubc7s621qdntk2poggfx
Wow! #3.
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Looks like more than just a few of us think this years team will be better than last year as well...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-gonzaga-ucla-preseason-top-25/1ak3dhubc7s621qdntk2poggfx
It’s certainly plausible, but I wouldn’t cite no Ayo as the reason.
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10-1 non con
15-5 conf
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It’s certainly plausible, but I wouldn’t cite no Ayo as the reason.
It would be however one of the reasons...?
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It would be however one of the reasons...?
No.
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If your team gets better “because” of the removal of a top 5-8 player in the country, I’d argue that’s a coaching issue.
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If your team gets better “because” of the removal of a top 5-8 player in the country, I’d argue that’s a coaching issue.
Might be accurate if there had been one on the roster.
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Might be accurate if there had been one on the roster.
So being a consensus 1st team All-American and Wooden Award finalist doesn’t get him the benefit of the doubt, huh? Putz.
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So being a consensus 1st team All-American and Wooden Award finalist doesn’t get him the benefit of the doubt, huh? Putz.
No. He was not one of top 5 or 8 best players in country last year.
I will agree that the game coaching last year was below average, but that is a feature of Hulka teams.
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I'm going to get some popcorn and be right back for this.
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No. He was not one of top 5 or 8 best players in country last year.
I will agree that the game coaching last year was below average, but that is a feature of Hulka teams.
Would you agree he was one of the best players we’ve had in the last 15 years, if not ever?
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Would you agree that he was a 1st team All-American? Which, would seem to correlate with being quite good?
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Would you agree that he was a 1st team All-American? Which, would seem to correlate with being quite good?
Well, that is an actual fact that he was an AA. And yes all would agree he was a quite good college player.
I guess we just have different view here.
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So being a consensus 1st team All-American and Wooden Award finalist doesn’t get him the benefit of the doubt, huh? Putz.
well he was a second round pick, so the "experts" seem not to agree with you
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Would you agree he was one of the best players we’ve had in the last 15 years, if not ever?
see now you're just moving the goal posts
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How?
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NBA Scouts and GMs don’t draft according to how good you were in college, they draft for what they think you’ll become. Patrick Williams didn’t even start in college and was the 4th pick.
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Luke Harangody didn’t stick in the NBA, but don’t try to tell me he wasn’t a hell of a college player.
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Luke Harangody didn’t stick in the NBA, but don’t try to tell me he wasn’t a hell of a college player.
Don't think anyone would have said he was a top 5-8 player though
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Don't think anyone would have said he was a top 5-8 player though
The people who vote for the Wooden Award did. Of course, I’m sure your opinion holds more weight.
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Don't think anyone would have said he was a top 5-8 player though
Luke Harangody was a 3 time All-American.
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well he was a second round pick, so the "experts" seem not to agree with you
Jacob Pullen went undrafted. Are you going to try to tell me he wasn’t a hell of a college player?
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No.
Yes take away the ONE person that everyone tried to gameplan for (concentrate on throughout each game and especially at the end) as well as an Alpha that many other players naturally deferred too. Then allow others to grow into better games and other teams have to gameplan on multiple scorers...well addition by subtraction and better in overall terms. So yes it is a reason.
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Jacob Pullen went undrafted. Are you going to try to tell me he wasn’t a hell of a college player?
I think there were definitely 8 better players in NCAAbb last year than Ayo
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I think there were definitely 8 better players in NCAAbb last year than Ayo
Ok, say he’s only the 15th best player in college basketball. You’re still pretty unlikely to get better “because” he’s gone.
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Yes take away the ONE person that everyone tried to gameplan for (concentrate on throughout each game and especially at the end) as well as an Alpha that many other players naturally deferred too. Then allow others to grow into better games and other teams have to gameplan on multiple scorers...well addition by subtraction and better in overall terms. So yes it is a reason.
Been hearing this for many years. Again, that’s more of a coaching issue. A team can always use one of the best players in the country.
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Ok, say he’s only the 15th best player in college basketball. You’re still pretty unlikely to get better “because” he’s gone.
we aren't going to get better because he's gone, we're going to get better because of what remains and what we have added
Ayo was pretty ball dominant and there were a few times last year where it was "everyone stand around and watch Ayo operate"
but I don't think that anyone would say we'd be worse if he stayed another year
wish we had Georgi back too but whatever
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I’ve specifically heard people say we’ll
Be better because he’s gone.
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I’ve specifically heard people say we’ll
Be better because he’s gone.
we might play better "team" basketball
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we aren't going to get better because he's gone, we're going to get better because of what remains and what we have added
Ayo was pretty ball dominant and there were a few times last year where it was "everyone stand around and watch Ayo operate"
but I don't think that anyone would say we'd be worse if he stayed another year
wish we had Georgi back too but whatever
Ding ding ding
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I’ve specifically heard people say we’ll
Be better because he’s gone.
On here? Who?
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we aren't going to get better because he's gone, we're going to get better because of what remains and what we have added
Ayo was pretty ball dominant and there were a few times last year where it was "everyone stand around and watch Ayo operate"
but I don't think that anyone would say we'd be worse if he stayed another year
wish we had Georgi back too but whatever
Stop moving other posters' goal posts!
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we might play better "team" basketball
Again, that’s an indictment of the coaching, if anything.
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On here? Who?
I think Custard said it IIRC
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Ding ding ding
So you admit Underwood didn’t coach the team up.
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I think Custard said it IIRC
I don't think so. The first reference to the topic came from you, I believe.
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I think Custard said it IIRC
Good luck finding that quote.
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So you admit Underwood didn’t coach the team up.
I said it about 40 times last season: For all Underwood’s talk about positionless modern basketball, he and his staff went out and built about a very traditional roster. A roster built to win in the B1G, which it did at a high level, but not one built to match up well with the likes of Baylor or let’s say a UCLA. Or *gasp* Loyola.
So my main criticism isn’t really his coaching acumen but rather the roster construction. I get that Illinois doesn’t get first pick of the guys they want and you can’t turn down guys like Kofi.
So he and the staff reworked their entire scheme around having a guy like Kofi and managed to win the B1G by half a game, blow out the league runner up by 23 at their place without Ayo, win the BTT, and land a 1 seed.
Then the B1G got absolutely pantsed in the tourney against quicker more athletic teams with non-traditional bigs and better three point shooting. Underwood went out and got Payne and Plummer to address those needs to shore up the roster. Guess we’ll see what he can do with them.
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I said it about 40 times last season: For all Underwood’s talk about positionless modern basketball, he and his staff went out and built about a very traditional roster. A roster built to win in the B1G, which it did at a high level, but not one built to match up well with the likes of Baylor or let’s say a UCLA. Or *gasp* Loyola.
So my main criticism isn’t really his coaching acumen but rather the roster construction. I get that Illinois doesn’t get first pick of the guys they want and you can’t turn down guys like Kofi.
So he and the staff reworked their entire scheme around having a guy like Kofi and managed to win the B1G by half a game, blow out the league runner up by 23 at their place without Ayo, win the BTT, and land a 1 seed.
Then the B1G got absolutely pantsed in the tourney against quicker more athletic teams with non-traditional bigs and better three point shooting. Underwood went out and got Payne and Plummer to address those needs to shore up the roster. Guess we’ll see what he can do with them.
In before JudgeJudy with a "poetry."
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In before JudgeJudy with a "poetry."
It’s good shit
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Hey, at least we are arguing about basketball and not somebody eating somebody’s asshole.
It’s a low bar in the cesspool.
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Hey, at least we are arguing about basketball and not somebody eating somebody’s asshole.
It’s a low bar in the cesspool.
That's in another thread.
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Good luck finding that quote.
Does this suffice? Taken from "Can't get excited" thread. Page 6, I believe.
-The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves. The Michigan beat down was probably the best performance of the entire season. And Michigan fared the best in the tourney of any B1G team.
-We have added shooters with length. And Plummer, while short, is a known quantity at the P5 level. He more than replaces AcePuppy.
Signed,
Custard
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Does this suffice? Taken from "Can't get excited" thread. Page 6, I believe.
-The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves. The Michigan beat down was probably the best performance of the entire season. And Michigan fared the best in the tourney of any B1G team.
-We have added shooters with length. And Plummer, while short, is a known quantity at the P5 level. He more than replaces AcePuppy.
- signed, Custard
Nope just another example of how we could be better despite losing Ayo, not because we are losing Ayo.
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You might as well call this place OANN-HQ2, because clearly, words have no meaning with you (see: Bielema, Bret).
You mean you're going to interpret words "accurately?" That's a ridiculously high bar. No Thanks.- Custard
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I’ve specifically heard people say we’ll
Be better because he’s gone.
Does this suffice? Taken from "Can't get excited" thread. Page 6, I believe.
-The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves. The Michigan beat down was probably the best performance of the entire season. And Michigan fared the best in the tourney of any B1G team.
-We have added shooters with length. And Plummer, while short, is a known quantity at the P5 level. He more than replaces AcePuppy.
Signed,
Custard
You might as well call this place OANN-HQ2, because clearly, words have no meaning with you (see: Bielema, Bret).
You mean you're going to interpret words "accurately?" That's a ridiculously high bar. No Thanks.- Custard
At no point did I ever say we’d be better because we didn’t have Ayo.
And I’m the one with whom words have no meaning?
I only wish, like spark probably does, that you’re trolling and not sincere.
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At no point did I ever say we’d be better because we didn’t have Ayo.
And I’m the one with whom words have no meaning?
I only wish, like spark probably does, that you’re trolling and not sincere.
-The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves. The Michigan beat down was probably the best performance of the entire season - Custard
How else would one who knows how to read and understand words interpret this?
Also, is "AcePuppy" Ayo?
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I like eating pussy. How bout you, LK?
Yep. My asshole is exit only.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGAyQAkXajg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGAyQAkXajg)
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-The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves. The Michigan beat down was probably the best performance of the entire season - Custard
How else would one who knows how to read and understand words interpret this?
Also, is "AcePuppy" Ayo?
Jesus.
Acewolf=Acepuppy.
Try and keep up. ;D
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/01/a5/6d01a5a7c1d5e9f852056c260db8e939.jpg)
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Jesus.
Acewolf=Acepuppy.
Try and keep up. ;D
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/01/a5/6d01a5a7c1d5e9f852056c260db8e939.jpg)
Thanks for cleaning that up for me.
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It’s certainly plausible, but I wouldn’t cite no Ayo as the reason.
Nor did anyone else.
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Nor did anyone else.
“The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves.”
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“The results when Ayo was out speak for themselves.”
WE CAN BE BETTER WITHOUT HIM.
Say we have a better overall record and get past the first weekend in the tournament this year. I guess you’d have to say we are better without him. Amirite?!
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WE CAN BE BETTER WITHOUT HIM.
Say we have a better overall record and get past the first weekend in the tournament this year. I guess you’d have to say we are better without him. Amirite?!
Judging from Cuatard’s own words, (he thought) we were better without him LAST YEAR, even without this years’ additions. Amirite? If one knows how to read and interpret words, this can be the only conclusion.
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Judging from Cuatard’s own words, (he thought) we were better without him LAST YEAR, even without this years’ additions. Amirite? If one knows how to read and interpret words, this can be the only conclusion.
You're flailing.
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You're flailing.
At least I’m literate.
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So no team should be better the following year when they lose a good player/players?! That’s basically what you’re saying….
Ummm more good players come along. Otherwise teams would never improve over what the currently are.
You realize how dumb what you’re saying is sounding, right?
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So no team should be better the following year when they lose a good player/players?! That’s basically what you’re saying….
Ummm more good players come along. Otherwise teams would never improve over what the currently are.
You realize how dumb what you’re saying is sounding, right?
You can’t read
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Our current squad is a better team even without Malcolm Hill on it. He is a top Illinois player all time. How can that be?!?!
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You can’t read
No YOU’RE the one who can’t read. I think everyone on the board would agree with what I’m saying.
*Remember fingers pointing and self-awareness.
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“The results without Ayo speak for themselves.”
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At the least, Custard could have chosen his words more skillfully. Like the Bielema conversation, I’m moving on. Good day.
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Like the Bielema conversation, I’m moving on. Good day.
That’s probably a good choice.
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Your approval means everything to me.
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“The results without Ayo speak for themselves.”
Meaning we absolutely dominated an Elite 8 team at their place without him. It shows the team was still very good in his absence.
Since then we have added three experienced transfer players to the roster that fill positions/bring skill sets of dire need. There are reasonable expectations for another position guy we really need (Hawkins) to take a nice sophomore jump.
We could be better. Wouldn’t be shocked if we aren’t, though.
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We could be better.
Just missing the "or we could not be better" to really ride the fence!
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Just missing the "or we could not be better" to really ride the fence!
Fixed it
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Fixed it
Well done.
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Again, only at the HQ, where words and logic are meaningless; could one be both epically wrong about literally everything, yet non-committal and super safe in his predictions. A real paradox.
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Again, only at the HQ, where words and logic are meaningless; could one be both epically wrong about literally everything, yet non-committal and super safe in his predictions. A real paradox.
Are you sure you are not speaking about The Facebook?
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26-7, 2nd in conf., Elite Eight and lose a nail-biter.
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26-7, 2nd in conf., Elite Eight and lose a nail-biter.
Will take it.
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26-7, 2nd in conf., Elite Eight and lose a nail-biter.
Damn, brah. Gotta make it a nail-biter?
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26-7, 2nd in conf., Elite Eight and lose a nail-biter.
I think we could contend for a title, but wouldn’t be surprised to see us flame out in the second round again.
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I think we could contend for a title, but wouldn’t be surprised to see us flame out in the second round again.
LOL.
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I think we could contend for a title, but wouldn’t be surprised to see us flame out in the second round again.
Genius at work. Total AOTC domination.
Nicely done.
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I think we could contend for a title, but wouldn’t be surprised to see us flame out in the second round again.
On the other hand, I could see us flame out in the second round again, but it wouldn't surprised me to see the Illini contend for the title.
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There's no way we can be better because we had 2 players in the vote for All-American last year. We only have Kofi this year.
But we may be better because it's a team game, especially if we play more consistent defense.
If the shooters turn out to be not as advertised, we probably won't be better, but we might be.
If Kofi can develop his shot and pick up an assist every now and then, the shooters are as advertised and we play defense we should have all of the weapons necessary to get to New Orleans. Unless, of course, we lose in the 1st round which is always a possibility.
We could be better and we could be worse, but we might be about the same as last year when we had 2 All-Americans.
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There's no way we can be better because we had 2 players in the vote for All-American last year. We only have Kofi this year.
But we may be better because it's a team game, especially if we play more consistent defense.
If the shooters turn out to be not as advertised, we probably won't be better, but we might be.
If Kofi can develop his shot and pick up an assist every now and then, the shooters are as advertised and we play defense we should have all of the weapons necessary to get to New Orleans. Unless, of course, we lose in the 1st round which is always a possibility.
We could be better and we could be worse, but we might be about the same as last year when we had 2 All-Americans.
Poetry
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Sometimes I feel like I’m interacting with 5th graders, here.
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Poetry
Close, but he’s getting there. Your eye for good writing is getting better though. Bitch.
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Sometimes I feel like I’m interacting with 5th graders, here.
I actually was on Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
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I actually was on Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
So how’d it go?
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So how’d it go?
I was only as smart as a collegiate womyn's studies major.
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I was only as smart as a collegiate womyn's studies major.
(https://i.gifer.com/49QW.gif)
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Jobu is probably gonna watch every old episode of AYSTA5G? to guess which one PAMan is.
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Jobu is probably gonna watch every old episode of AYSTA5G? to guess which one PAMan is.
😂🤣
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Jobu is probably gonna watch every old episode of AYSTA5G? to guess which one PAMan is.
LOL!
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Jobu is probably gonna watch every old episode of AYSTA5G? to guess which one PAMan is.
I am cringing at the thought of the screen caps.
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Jobu, do Judge Judy next! If you can figure out who Illinkn is, that would be quite the coup.
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Better yet, let’s do a “This is your life, Rob McColley!” And get some reviews from some of the loose women he banged.
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It was a joke. I also thought you'd left us.
100% want a new action thread if Custard is going to do a diary with livestreams.
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Word out this morning is that Kofi is looking at a 4 to 8 game suspension to start the season.
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Word out this morning is that Kofi is looking at a 4 to 8 game suspension to start the season.
And Mark Few gets 1 game for a DUI and resisting police.
Also they legalized what Kofi did like a month later.
Fuck you, NCAA!
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And Mark Few gets 1 game for a DUI and resisting police.
Also they legalized what Kofi did like a month later.
Fuck you, NCAA!
Privileged "Few", oh how it must be nice.
Several past schools suspended coaches indefinately during their DUI transgressions.....lol, 2 exhibition games and 1 actual one. Way to send a message university to your students/athletes.
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Word out this morning is that Kofi is looking at a 4 to 8 game suspension to start the season.
NCAA in light of NLI being approved....and I mean EVERYBODY knew it would be, should turn the other way on this one and save face over applying a penalty to an All-American. It can only make them look weaker than they already do. The NLI was meant to help save them for the long run, has they are definately on the way out as well...thus the discussion of the major conferences having their own March Madness now....it probably will happen eventually, as the NCAA will go away at some point.
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4-8 games ?
I'd have to look at the schedule but ....
Home and away vs scUM and PU would be 4. Add in home vs MSU and tOSU would be 6.
That seems like enough.
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And Mark Few suspended by Gonzaga, not the NCAA, but continue on....
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I’ll never understand driving drunk by rich/famous people who could easily afford an Uber.
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Word out this morning is that Kofi is looking at a 4 to 8 game suspension to start the season.
Not quite on the level of Mitch McGary getting fucked out of a full year for smoking weed after popping in a tournament he never even played in but still total bullshit.
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Seems really bizarre.
Needs to be appealed.
Whitman needs to do his job here.
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Whitman is like Guenther. Captain Compliance.
He won't do shit, other than take it.
....Up the ass....right?
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Did we self report this ?
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And Mark Few gets 1 game for a DUI and resisting police.
Also they legalized what Kofi did like a month later.
Fuck you, NCAA!
https://deadspin.com/gonzaga-s-mark-few-s-dui-arrest-video-is-proof-that-his-1847964475
Fuck Gonzaga!
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https://deadspin.com/gonzaga-s-mark-few-s-dui-arrest-video-is-proof-that-his-1847964475
Fuck Gonzaga!
Sadly, the vast majority of coaches are dirtbags.
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https://deadspin.com/gonzaga-s-mark-few-s-dui-arrest-video-is-proof-that-his-1847964475
Fuck Gonzaga!
how about this tidbit from the same article... YIKES!
At Wisconsin, the basketball team was on the verge of a potential mutiny after a 37-minute audiotape that was secretly recorded at a team meeting in which players unloaded on head coach Greg Gard. The school didn’t levy any suspensions on Gard, which was reminiscent of how nothing happened when Kobe King — one of the team’s few Black players — left the program. Eventually, we discovered it was due to one of Gard’s former staff members using the N-word.
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How's this go ?
Kofi cleans his jerseys and sells his jerseys and stinky shoes. Pays the money back.
"Kentucky freshman TyTy Washington Jr. will be riding onto campus in style thanks to his new NIL deal with a Porsche dealership.
Washington announced on Instagram that he's signed an agreement with Blue Grass Motorsport Porsche in Louisville.
Per ESPN's Myron Medcalf, the Porsche Cayenne SUV in Washington's social media photos typically sells for more than $80,000."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10015619-kentuckys-tyty-washington-jr-signs-contract-with-porsche-dealership-under-nil-rules
Hey you Porsche owners out there, how'd TyTy do ?
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Isn't the difference that NIL happened after Kofi sold his stuff? Not saying it is worth any suspension of any great length....
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Isn't the difference that NIL happened after Kofi sold his stuff? Not saying it is worth any suspension of any great length....
It did.
Stinky shoes for a pre-season 1st team All-American vs a Porsche for a recruit who hasnt dribbled once on a college hoops court is how the NCAA leveled the playing field with NIL.
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It did.
Stinky shoes for a pre-season 1st team All-American vs a Porsche for a recruit who hasnt dribbled once on a college hoops court is how the NCAA leveled the playing field with NIL.
Sounds to me that the athletic department needs better lawyers.
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Sounds to me that the athletic department needs better lawyers.
Well played.
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Kofi gets 3. GMAFB!
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Coulda been worse.
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Coulda been worse.
I know. You’re breathing a sigh of relief that he’s not gonna be able to posterize your boy, Shaka!
In all seriousness though, I think 3 is still too many. I’m ok with it though because how the NCAA is, it could’ve been WAY more. Especially how they are towards us.
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I know. You’re breathing a sigh of relief that he’s not gonna be able to posterize your boy, Shaka!
In all seriousness though, I think 3 is still too many. I’m ok with it though because how the NCAA is, it could’ve been WAY more. Especially how they are towards us.
Marquette is on the schedule first 3 games?
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Weird, Google search says NC Central, Miami of Ohio, and SIUE. But writing Illini mentions Marquette.
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Haha somehow I am getting the women’s schedule. Even though I didn’t search for the women’s schedule.
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Weird, Google search says NC Central, Miami of Ohio, and SIUE. But writing Illini mentions Marquette.
Interesting. I believe they are. I’ll have to double check.
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Interesting. I believe they are. I’ll have to double check.
They are. Weird that I would get women’s schedule and not the men’s when googling Illinois basketball schedule.
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They are. Weird that I would get women’s schedule and not the men’s when googling Illinois basketball schedule.
Too bad B1G10Man isn’t here or else he could help you with The Google
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They are. Weird that I would get women’s schedule and not the men’s when googling Illinois basketball schedule.
Why is that weird?
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Why is that weird?
Because I didn’t Google women’s basketball. The previous 20+ years of internet searches never turned up the women’s team first. That I can recall, anyway.
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Because I didn’t Google women’s basketball. The previous 20+ years of internet searches never turned up the women’s team first. That I can recall, anyway.
Seems you have an issue with Google defaulting to women’s basketball rather than men’s. Times are changing.
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Seems you have an issue with Google defaulting to women’s basketball rather than men’s. Times are changing.
He’s a misogamist 🤷🏻♂️
Ok ok I’ll stop attacking you Stuart.
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Seems you have an issue with Google defaulting to women’s basketball rather than men’s. Times are changing.
Saw that coming from a mile away (cue JudgeJudy).
Is this board ready for “woke” Custard?
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Saw that coming from a mile away (cue JudgeJudy).
Is this board ready for “woke” Custard?
I’m just playin man. In all seriousness, you’re a pretty cool dude. I just like having some fun and don’t need to take it to such extremes as my mentor, Jobu. May he RIP because you slayed him real good like.
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I’m just playin man. In all seriousness, you’re a pretty cool dude. I just like having some fun and don’t need to take it to such extremes as my mentor, Jobu. May he RIP because you slayed him real good like.
Lol
Upping your game today. I like it.
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JudgeJudy literally made me LOL twice this morning already. This should be a good day.
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Just listened to a Mike Decourcy interview on a Denver radio College Bball round table. He's got the Illini in his final four. The Shaka game, in his opinion, didn't mean squat due to Kofi not playing. He's normally not too far off in his takes.
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Just listened to a Mike Decourcy interview on a Denver radio College Bball round table. He's got the Illini in his final four. The Shaka game, in his opinion, didn't mean squat due to Kofi not playing. He's normally not too far off in his takes.
I think we can be very good. Will be interested to see how the rotation develops.
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Just listened to a Mike Decourcy interview on a Denver radio College Bball round table. He's got the Illini in his final four. The Shaka game, in his opinion, didn't mean squat due to Kofi not playing. He's normally not too far off in his takes.
Final Four IF Belo starts playing team ball and acting like a real PG....creative genius doesn't cover up ignorant play. IF Hawkins stays to form that he played with when Kofi was out. IF Kofi plays anything near pre-season ranking.
Elite Eight IF Belo does above and Kofi does above with role players just doing enough, a 3rd option for offense should do it.
Sweet Sixteen IF Belo cuts turnovers down to an average of "only" half of what was the other night...
Nothing IF Belo plays all year for himself.....which is I am sure not what he was trying to do against Marquette, however is what he accomplished.