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Title: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on January 20, 2021, 01:25:57 PM
Boebert expelled yet?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on January 20, 2021, 01:31:19 PM
Boebert expelled yet?

Custard Dan may move this to the WTF Trump.or Biden forums.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on January 20, 2021, 01:38:23 PM
I know it's traditional, but I find navigation easier in mobile if not every thread begins with the same three letters.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on January 20, 2021, 02:32:13 PM
I know it's traditional, but I find navigation easier in mobile if not every thread begins with the same three letters.

May be time for a "WTF Thread is Rob Starting Now?" thread....
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on January 20, 2021, 02:59:59 PM
Woodrow Wilson's first name: Tom
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Custard on January 20, 2021, 04:11:06 PM
rob masturbating furiously at thought of Trump being arrested
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on January 20, 2021, 04:18:09 PM
You got pics?!?!?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on January 20, 2021, 04:41:31 PM
(https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/07/trumpwig.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Custard on January 20, 2021, 08:11:03 PM
You got pics?!?!?

You really should put some tape over that front facing camera
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on January 20, 2021, 09:06:05 PM
Dumb ass, I want pics of Trump getting arrested.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on April 02, 2021, 07:55:25 AM
Still waiting....

Looks like he just might run in 2024🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2021, 09:14:59 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-investigation-witnesses-ins/next-phase-of-criminal-probe-into-trump-finances-finding-witnesses-idUSKBN2BE15X
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: alum74 on April 05, 2021, 09:21:44 PM
Still waiting....

Looks like he just might run in 2024🤷🏻‍♂️

GOP Dream Ticket:  Trump-Gaetz 2024
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on April 05, 2021, 09:22:19 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-investigation-witnesses-ins/next-phase-of-criminal-probe-into-trump-finances-finding-witnesses-idUSKBN2BE15X

“Vance has not accused Trump or his associates of wrongdoing but is examining, among other things, whether property values were manipulated to reduce Trump’s taxes or obtain other economic benefits. The case is being heard by a grand jury that will decide whether there is evidence to indict Trump or his associates.”

🤔 I guess just start throwing shit at the wall and hope something sticks. It’s what they did for 4 years.

Edit....didn’t our fat-ass Governor just take a bunch of toilets out of his mansion to manipulate property taxes. Oh and the whole wiretap convo with a former Governor who went to prison about trying to buy a Senate seat?!
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2021, 09:30:49 PM
“Vance has not accused Trump or his associates of wrongdoing but is examining, among other things, whether property values were manipulated to reduce Trump’s taxes or obtain other economic benefits. The case is being heard by a grand jury that will decide whether there is evidence to indict Trump or his associates.”

🤔 I guess just start throwing shit at the wall and hope something sticks. It’s what they did for 4 years.

They apparently already believe he undervalued property (and income?) for tax purposes and overvalued it for credit purposes.  He was broke at tax time; loaded when he wanted a loan. Didn't Cohen admit that? 
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 05, 2021, 09:40:33 PM
🤔 I guess just start throwing shit at the wall and hope something sticks. It’s what they did for 4 years.

If you weren't so dumb, you'd know that this is what it's always been about.

It's always been bank fraud and insurance fraud. Trump fudged the value of his assets to obtain loans, and fudged them the other way to pay less tax. He materially misrepresented his assets to banks and insurance companies.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on April 05, 2021, 09:43:28 PM
They apparently already believe he undervalued property (and income?) for tax purposes and overvalued it for credit purposes.  He was broke at tax time; loaded when he wanted a loan. Didn't Cohen admit that?

Yeah he did, but we’ll see what all this is about....

Cohen told Reuters he has evidence to overcome any questions about his credibility. “Unfortunately for Trump, I have backed up each and every question posed by the district attorney’s office,” Cohen said, by providing “documentary evidence.”

I mean Cohen has every reason in the world to rollover and help himself. Question is, are you/they really gonna believe someone who has been caught lying under oath?!
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 05, 2021, 09:52:14 PM
Question is, are you/they really gonna believe someone who has been caught lying under oath?!
No, that's not at all the question.

Your willingness to project uninformed opinions as clever talking points is what makes it fun, rather than sad, to pile on.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on April 05, 2021, 09:53:05 PM
If you weren't so dumb, you'd know that this is what it's always been about.

It's always been bank fraud and insurance fraud. Trump fudged the value of his assets to obtain loans, and fudged them the other way to pay less tax. He materially misrepresented his assets to banks and insurance companies.

Lol, I know that’s what it’s always been about dumbass. Along with anything else they can try to accuse him of.

Sounds like the banks and insurance companies should do some better investigations. They don’t have to loan him the money or insure him. Sounds like they didn’t mind and it’s not like they didn’t know who he was.

I guess we’ll see what comes of it. I’m in no way saying he’s innocent. Just gotta see the proof.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 05, 2021, 09:56:38 PM
Sounds like the banks and insurance companies should do some better investigations. They don’t have to loan him the money or insure him. Sounds like they didn’t mind and it’s not like they didn’t know who he was.

So, so dumb.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: murphstahoe on April 05, 2021, 10:27:04 PM
we'll all get super worked up and then right when it comes to show time he'll Kenneth Lay us all
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 05, 2021, 10:33:43 PM
we'll all get super worked up and then right when it comes to show time he'll Kenneth Lay us all
But Ken Lay can enjoy his riches in quiet, comfortable anonymity.

Trump doesn't have that luxury.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2021, 10:56:27 PM
But Ken Lay can enjoy his riches in quiet, comfortable anonymity.

Trump doesn't have that luxury.

 :o
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on April 05, 2021, 11:12:32 PM
But Ken Lay can enjoy his riches in quiet, comfortable anonymity.

Trump doesn't have that luxury.

So, so dumb.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 05, 2021, 11:14:12 PM
But Ken Lay can enjoy his riches in quiet, comfortable anonymity.

Trump doesn't have that luxury.

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53052308/what-if-i-told-you-hes-dead.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: murphstahoe on April 05, 2021, 11:27:01 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53052308/what-if-i-told-you-hes-dead.jpg)
Rob is either using some really incredibly subtle irony, or just isn't the history student he claimed to be....
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 05, 2021, 11:42:03 PM
Its ok we all make mistakes once in a while
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2021, 11:51:24 PM
I always liked his potato chips.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on April 06, 2021, 12:11:22 AM
Its ok we all make mistakes once in a while

But, but, but he has a law degree.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 18, 2021, 10:56:11 AM
Rob is either using some really incredibly subtle irony, or just isn't the history student he claimed to be....

It's not irony.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illinicalvin on April 18, 2021, 03:16:44 PM
Setting aside the Ken Lay thing, I think it most likely that certain interested Russian entities find a way to prevent Donald Trump from ever being pursued seriously. He may be indicted, but I highly doubt we ever get a trial.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 18, 2021, 03:52:14 PM
How would that work?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on April 18, 2021, 07:58:47 PM
cholinesterase inhibitors?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ridingthegrange on April 18, 2021, 08:06:18 PM
cholinesterase inhibitors?

 :D golds! golds! golds! golds!
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: IlliniGolf on April 19, 2021, 10:45:53 AM
I’ll bet McLassie $5 Trump never gets arrested
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on April 19, 2021, 03:49:23 PM
I’ll bet McLassie $5 Trump never gets arrested

To make it interesting, he would pay you $5 if he does not get arrested in x years. If he does get arrested, you have to make your family's dinner from your own dumpster diving discoveries. Now that would be interesting.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 19, 2021, 04:20:12 PM
Yesterday I found the Alibaba version of a Roku.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illinicalvin on April 19, 2021, 07:55:10 PM
Yesterday I found the Alibaba version of a Roku.
You tried it out yet?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on April 19, 2021, 08:08:13 PM
It rook rike dis.

(https://i.ibb.co/k15cXs4/Yun-OS.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: IlliniGolf on August 19, 2021, 04:21:36 PM
Still waiting mclassie
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Custard on February 14, 2022, 10:26:40 AM
Will Hillary be first?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on February 14, 2022, 10:34:34 AM
Republicans Who Railed About Clinton Emails Are Quiet on Trump’s Records

"This is who Donald Trump is. He frequently will attack people falsely for things he is actually doing.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/us/politics/trump-national-archives-documents-republicans.html
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on February 14, 2022, 10:46:42 AM
"I have to start with the hypocrisy though, because it's not just hypocrisy. It's that Donald Trump himself was mind-numbingly incompetent when it came to the protection of classified information. So it's not just that he criticized Clinton and then did something similar. He did something vastly worse on multiple occasions. So much so that we were scared, legitimately scared to take sensitive, classified information into the Oval Office and tell the president of the United States about it." -- Miles Taylor,  a former chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security,

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mind-numbingly-incompetent-protecting-classified-info-ex-aide-1678739
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on February 14, 2022, 10:55:51 AM
Way to deflect illiniray.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on February 14, 2022, 11:08:41 AM
Way to deflect illiniray.

I think Fox News is deflecting? 
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on February 14, 2022, 11:12:35 AM
Who is deflecting?

Surprise: Some of the Documents Trump Tried to Hide at Mar-a-Lago Were Actually Pretty Important
In that they were classified and, in some cases, marked “top secret.”
BESS LEVIN
FEBRUARY 11, 2022 2:20 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/02/donald-trump-classified-documents-mar-a-lago
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 14, 2022, 11:12:41 AM
Court documents vs in the book, sources say. Lol.
I'll take court documents for $600 Alex.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Judge Judy on February 14, 2022, 12:11:26 PM
He links Vanity Fair as a source and “secret documents” over an actual court document. 🤔
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
He links Vanity Fair as a source and “secret documents” over an actual court document. 🤔
"Including documents at the "top secret" level according to two people familiar with the matter" and "possibly flushing......."
(https://i.ibb.co/PhdTKgs/Screenshot-20220214-124645.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MVm8r7y)
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on February 14, 2022, 01:03:07 PM
Lock them up! Lock them up!
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: IlliniGolf on February 14, 2022, 01:45:33 PM
Nichi:

(https://c.tenor.com/RweL2vnlbSoAAAAC/dumb-and-dumber-yell.gif)
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on February 14, 2022, 04:20:58 PM
Trump Org's accounting firm cut bait and disclaimed a decade's worth of financial statements they prepared?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: fucking on February 14, 2022, 04:44:08 PM
He links Vanity Fair as a source and “secret documents” over an actual court document. 🤔
Dunning-Kruger
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on February 14, 2022, 04:50:31 PM
While President Trump was in office, staff in the White House residence periodically discovered wads of printed paper clogging a toilet — and believed the president had flushed pieces of paper, Maggie Haberman scoops in her forthcoming book, "Confidence Man."
https://www.axios.com/maggie-haberman-book-trump-papers-2d59d593-8b89-4edd-8623-8ef709af524f.html
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: alum74 on February 14, 2022, 05:04:05 PM
Trump Org's accounting firm cut bait and disclaimed a decade's worth of financial statements they prepared?

I see we've moved to the "everyone cover their ass" phase of the investigation. 
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: illiniray on February 14, 2022, 05:44:40 PM
https://www.lawfareblog.com/special-counsels-weird-prosecution-michael-sussmann
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 14, 2022, 08:51:32 PM
Nice little story by Wittes.
Joffe's researchers knew they had no opposition research, and if they used every trick in their bags it wouldn't fly public scrutiny. It's in Durham filings.
(https://i.ibb.co/vZjYLgY/Screenshot-20220214-203514.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJLy4Gy)

Durham is alleging unauthorized access to servers used by the sitting President. The potential criminality is one thing. It's also appears to be a huge national security issue.
I'm not sure Wittes should be downplaying any of this.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on February 14, 2022, 09:40:40 PM
Nice little story by Wittes.
Joffe's researchers knew they had no opposition research, and if they used every trick in their bags it wouldn't fly public scrutiny. It's in Durham filings.
(https://i.ibb.co/vZjYLgY/Screenshot-20220214-203514.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJLy4Gy)

Durham is alleging unauthorized access to servers used by the sitting President. The potential criminality is one thing. It's also appears to be a huge national security issue.
I'm not sure Wittes should be downplaying any of this.

And what if the Russians did it themselves to point the finger at Hilary? Putin always playing 3 D Chess.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 14, 2022, 10:02:30 PM
And what if the Russians did it themselves to point the finger at Hilary? Putin always playing 3 D Chess.
You're implying that Sussmann got paid in rubles ?
Thru the Russian consulate in Miami ? 😂😂
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: alum74 on February 14, 2022, 10:16:16 PM
https://www.lawfareblog.com/special-counsels-weird-prosecution-michael-sussmann

Another good read.  Durham working overtime trying to connect very speculative dots.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/02/12/john-durham-ask-not-for-whom-the-statute-of-limitation-tolls/
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on February 14, 2022, 10:51:29 PM
You're implying that Sussmann got paid in rubles ?
Thru the Russian consulate in Miami ? 😂😂

No, no, no. Saying the Russians planted everything to make it look like Hillary was tapping their internets. Hillary probably was also disguised as the Russian lawyer who meet met with Jr. and Manafort in Trump Tower to discuss "adoptions.' She saw the Tom Cruise Mission: Impossble pick your number where he is disguised and rips off the face mask.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 15, 2022, 05:52:09 AM
No, no, no. Saying the Russians planted everything to make it look like Hillary was tapping their internets. Hillary probably was also disguised as the Russian lawyer who meet met with Jr. and Manafort in Trump Tower to discuss "adoptions.' She saw the Tom Cruise Mission: Impossble pick your number where he is disguised and rips off the face mask.
Did you get this from the WaPo, or the NYT ?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: ThePAMan on February 15, 2022, 06:50:40 AM
Did you get this from the WaPo, or the NYT ?

Alex Jones, actually.

If they have actual evidence, I'm sure they will bring it. Find it hard to believe they have evidence that Hillary was directly involved, but we shall see. I'm guessing the odds of this part of the case being more like all the bogus vote fraud lawsuits is high, but let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 15, 2022, 07:25:37 AM
Alex Jones, actually.

If they have actual evidence, I'm sure they will bring it. Find it hard to believe they have evidence that Hillary was directly involved, but we shall see. I'm guessing the odds of this part of the case being more like all the bogus vote fraud lawsuits is high, but let's see what happens.
It may very well stop with low hanging fruit.
You know, to make sure something worse doesn't happen down the road. 🙈
What of 'Clinton approved a plan by one of her senior policy advisors ......" that Obama was briefed on ?
Title: Re: Trump arrested yet?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 15, 2022, 07:28:28 AM
Maybe one of the distinguished attorneys can chime in ......
Is it true that a grand jury can no longer be used to research a charge that has been filed, but a grand jury can be used to research additional charges on the charged individual or on other individuals ?