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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Miles Leonard on October 27, 2024, 02:20:48 PM
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Since PaHeSheTheyItMan is too busy losing his shit over Bielema for the 8747336361263263th time to make a thread about this week's game, I will pick up the slack on his behalf.
Jayden Daniels is starting.
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looking like an interesting matchup on paper
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Bears dominate, cruise to 31-20 win.
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Since PaHeSheTheyItMan is too busy losing his shit over Bielema for the 8747336361263263th time to make a thread about this week's game, I will pick up the slack on his behalf.
Jayden Daniels is starting.
Which would ordinarily be good news for my fantasy team but I think the Bears hold him in check today and I’m rolling with Bo Nix. Eek.
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What a pathetic looking run by Swift to open the game.
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Fantastic opening drive here.
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Bears starting off strong, lol
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I have been inconsistent with the Bear threads since Tempo would ignore them half the time anyway.
Well, Eberlose sure had the team ready after the bye, didn't he?
Oh, thank you Miles.
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Still an incredible throw by Daniels with Sweat all over him.
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These throw by Caleb...oof.
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These throw by Caleb...oof.
Missed 3 or 4 already, hope he calms down
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Stevenson just got fucking cooked
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Stevenson just got fucking cooked
He was just helping Edwards find his jock strap.
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Horrific start but only down 6. WTF is up with the slow starts?
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Horrific start but only down 6. WTF is up with the slow starts?
The PATheyXeXemThem at the door told you the problem here....
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Caleb playing scared as hell.
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Nice playcalling lol
Team is playing like they want the defense to score first
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Caleb playing scared as hell.
Doesn't help when Kmet and Moore run into each other on their routes.
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Horrible call on 4th and 1.
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A screen on 4th and 1. The genius Waldron at work.
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Doesn't help when Kmet and Moore run into each other on their routes.
No it does not. Which is also terrible play design by Waldron.
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This is looking like the beginning of the season. Bye Week = Eberlose Country Club Week
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A screen on 4th and 1. The genius Waldron at work.
It’s like Nagy and Getsy never left.
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Lose today and this will be the beginning of the end for Flus.
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Should be 21-0 if not for the Bears red zone defense
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Almost halftime and the Bears have 59 yards of offense.
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It's Week 1 all over again
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Good god
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Finally tune in to watch the Bears this year and my what a showing!
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As bad as that was, I’m still reasonably confident the Bears will win this game. Make them punt to start 2nd half and I like our chances.
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Going to guess this isn’t the game CBS and envisioned when they flexed it
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They had him.
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Can we see somone other than Swift get a carry please (a RB that is).
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Guess not.
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A drunk guy at the bar last night told me Swift was going to EAT today
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Two weeks to prepare and they don't have a goddamn clue what to do on offense.
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Getting worse as the game goes on lol
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Two weeks to prepare and they don't have a goddamn clue what to do on offense.
Or defense.....
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QB has bad ribs and Monty Sweat finally makes a play
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Defense aint the problem today, they have been on the field nearly the entire game
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Defense aint the problem today, they have been on the field nearly the entire game
Bullshit. The QB has bad ribs and how many times has he been hit today? Bear DBs getting run over when making tackles. They have been bad except in the Red Zone.
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What a well coached squad coming out of the bye
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Maybe the Bear D can force a punt instead of letting the Commander waltz all the way down to FG range.
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Bullshit. The QB has bad ribs and how many times has he been hit today? Bear DBs getting run over when making tackles. They have been bad except in the Red Zone.
Sure hasn't been pretty but they've only given up 12 points. Tightening up in the red zone is the only reason it's not 28-0 right now.
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Sure hasn't been pretty but they've only given up 12 points. Tightening up in the red zone is the only reason it's not 24-0 right now.
Red Zone excepted, yes. But they have given up long ass drives this game.
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FINALLY A FUCKING SPARK
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Maybe the Bear D can force a punt instead of letting the Commander waltz all the way down to FG range.
Maybe the offense can get a touchdown
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A drunk guy at the bar last night told me Swift was going to EAT today
Swift just had a nice meal there.
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Bear D needs to hit them during the play instead of acting like tough guys after they pick up 20 yards
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Immensely stupid penalty from Stevenson.
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Blocked!
Or not?
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Blocked!
Or not?
Had just texted Tempo that he was due to miss....
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A lot of Caleb's throws are to another planet today
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Need to draft more receivers who can't see the field instead of OL and DL....
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Terrible performance by williams tonight
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Terrible performance by williams tonight
He hasn't been good even when he has had time. Looks like early in the season
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He hasn't been good even when he has had time. Looks like early in the season
He definitely looks rushed and like hes over thinking it at the same time
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Can we get one good drive today? Is that asking too much?
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He definitely looks rushed and like hes over thinking it at the same time
How can he not trust the rookie LT from Yale?
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How can he not trust the rookie LT from Yale?
Besides that downfield penalty hes been decent, he had that sick block on swifts td run
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4/16, 36 yards. You have to TRY to be that bad at passing in today's NFL
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A drunk guy at the bar last night told me Swift was going to EAT today
This is why I’d take a drunk over a born again Christian 85% of the time.
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Rich Lazy DJ Moore!
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This is why I’d take a drunk over a born again Christian 85% of the time.
LOL
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Way to stand in the pocket and take the hit
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Well that's not good
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Besides that downfield penalty hes been decent, he had that sick block on swifts td run
Tony Romo has disagreed....
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WTF
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That's not the fucking time to get cute. FFS dumbass Waldron.
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Justin Fields makes that handoff
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Very bears
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That’s a fireable call
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Fire that mother fucker. 4th quarter and give it to a fucking lineman.
Stupid fucks
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That’s a fireable call
I’d say that’s as bad as not handing off to beast mode but at least the Seahawks were throwing to a wide receiver not a backup OL
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Game was won
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Game was won
It was a clever strategy to run clock and pin Washington deep before the winning drive
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Nice improvisation from Caleb to Keenan. Swift needs to hit the hole harder.
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Wtaf was that sequence
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It was a clever strategy to run clock and pin Washington deep before the winning drive
Do not deny my excellence
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Waldron still sucks!
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You give it to an actual running back at the goal line, good things tend to happen!
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Amazing 4th quarter that will cover up Bear coaching incompetence
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A really nice playcall wtf is going on
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Ok fire the coach
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Amazing 4th quarter that will cover up Bear coaching incompetence
Or illustrate it
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Lol
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So fucking Bears man...
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Fucking Montez Sweat no where to be found at the end of the game either
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You gotta be shitting me
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Should have drafted Daniels
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So glad I finally decided to try and give a fuck about the Bears again today
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I’m sorry you gotta put some real pressure on the QB there
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How the fuck do you let anyone behind you on a hail mary?
Should have bought a fucking blitz. Eberflus sucks. Just fucking sucks man.
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How the fuck do you let anyone behind you on a hail mary?
Should have bought a fucking blitz. Eberflus sucks. Just fucking sucks man.
Pretty much
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How the fuck do you let anyone behind you on a hail mary?
Should have bought a fucking blitz. Eberflus sucks. Just fucking sucks man.
They were all too busy tipping the ball right to him!
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I’m sorry you gotta put some real pressure on the QB there
Sweat not even on the field....like in Cleveland last year
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I guess CBS got the 4th quarter they wanted if not the game they wanted.
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Well, should be a good Hamp and OB....
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What a fucking great weekend to be an Illinois sports fan.
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I suppose we can all take solace in the fact that the Bears had zero business of winning that game anyway.
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As bad as that was, I’m still reasonably confident the Bears will win this game. Make them punt to start 2nd half and I like our chances.
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I suppose we can all take solace in the fact that the Bears had zero business of winning that game anyway.
I'll take solace that the new QB can suck for 3 quarters and pull a 4th quarter out of his ass only for the Almost Elite D and suck ass coaches to fuck it up.
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Just like Almost Making a Bowl Game!
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Just like Almost Making a Bowl Game!
Yeah in year 1 coming off self-imposed Lovie probation that was a solid result
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We may want to send a wellness check on Tempo..
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Yeah in year 1 coming off self-imposed Lovie probation that was a solid result
It was all Lovie's players....quite a few of them who were playing today....
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Biggest gut punch since the double doink?
https://x.com/emmanuelacho/status/1850685400194424864?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I'll take solace that the new QB can suck for 3 quarters and pull a 4th quarter out of his ass only for the Almost Elite D and suck ass coaches to fuck it up.
Oh…NOW it’s the defenses’ fault.
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I’ve come to the realization that whose fault it is depends on what jersey Justin Fields is wearing.
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Flus is toast. He’s not coming back from that minus a win streak.
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Fire Waldron. For real.
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That’s the kind of shit you look back at when you miss the playoffs by one game.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/nVXbVDYF/IMG-9334.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WQbnWcV)
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Oh…NOW it’s the defenses’ fault.
Are you going to say that play is not on the D? And where was your GUY, Montez Sweat? On the sidelines, like in Clevekand last year. Guy is a fucking BUST.
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That’s the kind of shit you look back at when you miss the playoffs by one game.
This and the Colts. Minus a large stacking of wins, the Bears are toast.
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I’ve come to the realization that whose fault it is depends on what jersey Justin Fields is wearing.
For you and PAMan it certainly does.
Today was on Caleb and the offense.
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Are you going to say that play is not on the D? And where was your GUY, Montez Sweat? On the sidelines, like in Clevekand last year. Guy is a fucking BUST.
Lololololololololololol
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I’ve come to the realization that whose fault it is depends on what jersey Justin Fields is wearing.
The game was fucking won, 2x but for the idiotic coaching, including by your Defense Guy, Eberlose.
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For you and PAMan it certainly does.
Today was on Caleb and the offense.
Nope. Justin Fields is no longer the Bears’ QB, so it’s the defenses’ fault. Unlike when Fields and the Steeler offense gave their defense a 4 point lead against Dallas with 3.5 minutes left at home and blew it.
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What a fucking great weekend to be an Illinois sports fan.
average weekend you mean
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Lololololololololololol
They left a guy standing alone behind them. Sweat was not on the field at the end of the game (just like when Flacco went down the field in Cleveland). And it is the offense's fault?
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The game was fucking won, 2x but for the idiotic coaching, including by your Defense Guy, Eberlose.
Just as I predicted weeks ago, you’d NEVER let a Bears defense off the hook for a poor Bears’ offensive showing. Tempo once again 🎯
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They left a guy standing alone behind them. Sweat was not on the field at the end of the game (just like when Flacco went down the field in Cleveland). And it is the offense's fault?
I know you like a book. Like a book I wrote.
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average weekend you mean
Lol yeah, not that far below average
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Nope. Justin Fields is no longer the Bears’ QB, so it’s the defenses’ fault. Unlike when Fields and the Steeler offense gave their defense a 4 point lead against Dallas with 3.5 minutes left at home and blew it.
Do you really not see how you do exactly this shit?
How many times did Justin Fields and the offense look bad and you blamed quite literally anyone else?
Today was on the offense. As were a number of games last year. But you only acknowledge those games now that Fields isn’t the QB.
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Nope. Justin Fields is no longer the Bears’ QB, so it’s the defenses’ fault. Unlike when Fields and the Steeler offense gave their defense a 4 point lead against Dallas with 3.5 minutes left at home and blew it.
I said that play the D blew it. You going to disagree?
The offense was terrible for 3 quarters. The D was bad outside of the Red Zone until the 4th quarter. They let a guy get behind them for a Hail Mary, which is the cardinal sin. Not quite the same as what we saw in Pittsburgh.
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If you actually read what I wrote there were lots of times I said Justin needed to play better. But yeah, when EQ St. Brown drops a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down, Smith-Marsette fumbles trying to get more yards instead of going OB, or Tyler Scott misjudges a well thrown deep ball to clinch a win against Detroit and drops it, I’m assigning them some blame as well. Crazy shit, I know.
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I said that play the D blew it. You going to disagree?
The offense was terrible for 3 quarters. The D was bad outside of the Red Zone until the 4th quarter. They let a guy get behind them for a Hail Mary, which is the cardinal sin. Not quite the same as what we saw in Pittsburgh.
You just blamed Eberlose and the Bears defense for the loss. If Fields was our quarterback, you’d surely be blaming him.
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Per Tempo as Hail Mary interceptions don't count against the QB's stats apparently Hail Mary touchdowns don't count towards the defense's points allowed.
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Do you really not see how you do exactly this shit?
How many times did Justin Fields and the offense look bad and you blamed quite literally anyone else?
Today was on the offense. As were a number of games last year. But you only acknowledge those games now that Fields isn’t the QB.
If you came around more often you’d know that I’m exposing PAMan for his clear double standards. Re: Dallas at Pittsburgh
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Where he reused to assign any blame to the Pittsburgh defense for giving up a 4 point lead with 3.5 minutes left at home.
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That’s the kind of shit you look back at when you miss the playoffs by one game.
Yep just like the squib kick against the Falcons in 2008 came back to bit them in the ass and cost them a playoff spot.
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You just blamed Eberlose and the Bears defense for the loss. If Fields was our quarterback, you’d surely be blaming him.
It was the last play of the game and the odds of success were dismal. Whose fault is that?
There is plenty of blame to go around. Eberlose did but have them ready after a bye week (shocker!). The offense and Williams were bad, even when Williams had time to throw, and the D was bad outside of the Red Zone until the 4th quarter (well, until they let a guy get behind them on the final improbable play).
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Where he reused to assign any blame to the Pittsburgh defense for giving up a 4 point lead with 3.5 minutes left at home.
There was zero reason to expect them to stop Dallas when there was plenty of time in the clock when they had not stopped them the whole game. The Bear had stopped the Commander in the 4th quarter and made a boneheaded play by letting the guy get behind them on the final play. How can you think the two scenarios are remotely comparable?
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If you came around more often you’d know that I’m exposing PAMan for his clear double standards. Re: Dallas at Pittsburgh
LOL.
Sorry the Bear finally have a QB who can overcome a bad 3 quarters only for your guy Eberlose to blow the game. There was zero way Fields could have had that 4th quarter.
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Again, your opinion changes based on what jersey Justin Fields is wearing.
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If you actually read what I wrote there were lots of times I said Justin needed to play better. But yeah, when EQ St. Brown drops a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down, Smith-Marsette fumbles trying to get more yards instead of going OB, or Tyler Scott misjudges a well thrown deep ball to clinch a win against Detroit and drops it, I’m assigning them some blame as well. Crazy shit, I know.
The most negative thing I remember you saying about Fields in Chicago was “he didn’t play at a HOF level”.
Your comment about Fields and the Cowboys is perfect, because that’s the same thing PAMan is doing today with the Bears. Even though the defense held them below the league average score and the offense only scored 17, you still blamed the defense because they gave up a late score with the lead.
It’s stupid when PAMan does it, and it was stupid when you did the exact same thing.
The defense played well today, just like the Steelers’ did in the Dallas game. Both the Bears’ and Steelers’ offenses lost those games.
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The defense shouldn’t have given up that play. The offense was horrendous minus the 4th quarter. We’ll have a new coach next year. You should be happy.
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Gotta be the worst gut punch since the double doink, right?
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Again, your opinion changes based on what jersey Justin Fields is wearing.
Oh bullshit. It is truly amazing you are making a blown Hail Mary defense (and your guy Sweat not being on the field) about Fields. It came down to one play with minimal odds and you are complaining about Fields? Truly incredible.
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The most negative thing I remember you saying about Fields in Chicago was “he didn’t play at a HOF level”.
That’s because you glossed over everything I said. I once gave Fields 33% of the blame for his own failures. Remember? Talentless roster, and lackluster coaching each got 33% too. I’ve said lots of times “Justin needed to do more to help himself.”
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The defense shouldn’t have given up that play. The offense was horrendous minus the 4th quarter. We’ll have a new coach next year. You should be happy.
Nothing to disagree with here.
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That’s because you glossed over everything I said. I once gave Fields 33% of the blame for his own failures. Remember? Talentless roster, and lackluster coaching each got 33% too. I’ve said lots of times “Justin needed to do more to help himself.”
Wow, 33% of the blame for his own failures.
True accountability.
Anyway, you’re absolutely right about PAMan making these calls based on whether Justin Fields is involved, but you do the exact same shit for the same reason.
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Oh bullshit. It is truly amazing you are making a blown Hail Mary defense (and your guy Sweat not being on the field) about Fields. It came down to one play with minimal odds and you are complaining about Fields? Truly incredible.
It’s funny, how when the offense mostly shits the bed but hands the defense a late lead in one case it’s clearly the offenses’ fault for losing and the other it’s the defenses’. Funny how that works. Just as I PREDICTED, you’d NEVER let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead in any situation.
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Wow, 33% of the blame for his own failures.
True accountability.
Anyway, you’re absolutely right about PAMan making these calls based on whether Justin Fields is involved, but you do the exact same shit for the same reason.
33% is a lot. There wasn’t any QB going to make the Bears’ 2022-2023 teams successful.
I’d probably say the same thing about Darnold’s first team. And lots of other young QBs. You go to a bad franchise with bad coaching and you’re behind the 8 ball immediately.
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It’s funny, how when the offense mostly shits the bed but hands the defense a late lead in one case it’s clearly the offenses’ fault for losing and the other it’s the defenses’. Funny how that works. Just as I PREDICTED, you’d NEVER let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead in any situation.
And you’d never hold Justin Fields accountable for an underperforming offense needing a late defensive stop to win a low scoring game. Like, you’re not wrong - it’s just that you do the exact same thing you’re criticizing him for, and 100% of his views about football are meant to antagonize you specifically.
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33% is a lot. There wasn’t any QB going to make the Bears’ 2022-2023 teams successful.
I’d probably say the same thing about Darnold’s first team. And lots of other young QBs. You go to a bad franchise with bad coaching and you’re behind the 8 ball immediately.
We should all be so lucky as to only be held 33% responsible for our own failures. What a fuckin crazy take hahaha. And presented as if it was meant to sound reasonable.
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We should all be so lucky as to only be held 33% responsible for our own failures. What a fuckin crazy take hahaha. And presented as if it was meant to sound reasonable.
Joe Burrow wouldn’t have made the 2022 Bears respectable.
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It’s funny, how when the offense mostly shits the bed but hands the defense a late lead in one case it’s clearly the offenses’ fault for losing and the other it’s the defenses’. Funny how that works. Just as I PREDICTED, you’d NEVER let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead in any situation.
I've explained how the Steeler D was terrible that whole game, how Dallas shot itself in the foot the whole game, and how you could not expect the Steeler D to be competent with plenty of time on the clock.
Please.explain to me how, on the last play of the game, with improbable odds, the Bear have Edwards just spying Daniels, Sweat not being on the field at all, and letting a guy get behind you on a Hail Mary is NOT the Bear D's fault.
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Joe Burrow wouldn’t have made the 2022 Bears respectable.
What about 2023?
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The most negative thing I remember you saying about Fields in Chicago was “he didn’t play at a HOF level”.
Your comment about Fields and the Cowboys is perfect, because that’s the same thing PAMan is doing today with the Bears. Even though the defense held them below the league average score and the offense only scored 17, you still blamed the defense because they gave up a late score with the lead.
It’s stupid when PAMan does it, and it was stupid when you did the exact same thing.
The defense played well today, just like the Steelers’ did in the Dallas game. Both the Bears’ and Steelers’ offenses lost those games.
Wrong, the Steelers’ defense didn’t play very well against Dallas. But you’d expect a defense that some (at the time) were calling “the best defense in the NFL” to keep the Cowboys from going the length of the field with 3.5 minutes left at home. PAMan blamed Fields for the loss. My point then, and since then has been he’d never let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead given to them by the offense and of course, I was right.
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Jesus hahaha.
The Fields thing continues to be one of the weirdest phenomena I ever remember in sports.
Both games - Bears today and Steelers against the Cowboys - were both good defensive performances where their opponents didn’t score much but their offenses didn’t score enough to win.
If my defense gives up 18 or less and I lose, that is not on my defense.
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Wrong, the Steelers’ defense didn’t play very well against Dallas. But you’d expect a defense that some (at the time) were calling “the best defense in the NFL” to keep the Cowboys from going the length of the field with 3.5 minutes left at home. PAMan blamed Fields for the loss. My point then, and since then has been he’d never let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead given to them by the offense and of course, I was right.
Dallas had 3 turnovers and a blocked kicked. Bear D had no turnovers, but a bad missed FG.
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What about 2023?
The Bears were respectable the 2nd half of the year. After Fields’ return and the acquisition of Sweat. If Tyler Scott could catch the Bears probably go 6-1 down the stretch.
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Tyler Scott can’t get on the fucking field by the way. Being outsnapped 10-1 by a 31 year old journeyman. Why? He sucks. That’s why.
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The Bears were respectable the 2nd half of the year. After Fields’ return and the acquisition of Sweat. If Tyler Scott could catch the Bears probably go 6-1 down the stretch.
If they had a real quarterback they were probably a playoff team the way their defense played down the stretch. But they didn’t.
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Let me add Stevenson taunting the crowd while the receivers were running towards the end zone and him getting there late...
Must be the offense's fault on that play
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Dallas had 3 turnovers and a blocked kicked. Bear D had no turnovers, but a bad missed FG.
Outside of the turnovers Dallas was moving the ball. You’ve said as much multiple times. Point is, you can’t be giving up touchdown drives at home with one minute left if you want to be considered the best defense in the NFL.
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Tyler Scott can’t get on the fucking field by the way. Being outsnapped 10-1 by a 31 year old journeyman. Why? He sucks. That’s why.
Another great pick by your guy Poles.
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Let me add Stevenson taunting the crowd while the receivers were running towards the end zone and him getting there late...
Must be the offense's fault on that play
Lots of stupid miscues today. Outside of a playoff berth Flus should be launched. That’s looking likely IMO.
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Outside of the turnovers Dallas was moving the ball. You’ve said as much multiple times. Point is, you can’t be giving up touchdown drives at home with one minute left if you want to be considered the best defense in the NFL.
They were terrible the whole night. They aren't the best defense. Your expectations were misplaced. That is the point.
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Another great pick by your guy Poles.
Damn Poles for not getting every pick right!
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Lots of stupid miscues today. Outside of a playoff berth Flus should be launched. That’s looking likely IMO.
I do not disagree.
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Damn Poles for not getting every pick right!
OL depth is a problem.
DL depth is a problem, especially since Sweat cannot stay on the field in cruch time
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They were terrible the whole night. They aren't the best defense. Your expectations were misplaced. That is the point.
The point is I heard two talking heads call them the “best defense in the NFL” the week before that loss. You can’t give up a TD drive late at home if you want to be called the best defense in the NFL. That’s my only point.
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The point is I heard two talking heads call them the “best defense in the NFL” the week before that loss. You can’t give up a TD drive late at home if you want to be called the best defense in the NFL. That’s my only point.
You have been warned about the views of NFL Talking Heads, since their views on Fields were off, yet you still take heed. That is your fault!
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The point is I heard two talking heads call them the “best defense in the NFL” the week before that loss. You can’t give up a TD drive late at home if you want to be called the best defense in the NFL. That’s my only point.
But even though they gave up the late score, the loss is still on the offense for only mustering 17 points yeah?
If my offense is any good, 20 points given up by my defense should be a win most nights. Do you agree?
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Jesus hahaha.
The Fields thing continues to be one of the weirdest phenomena I ever remember in sports.
Both games - Bears today and Steelers against the Cowboys - were both good defensive performances where their opponents didn’t score much but their offenses didn’t score enough to win.
If my defense gives up 18 or less and I lose, that is not on my defense.
I never gave the defense the full blame for the Steelers’ loss. But the “best defense in the NFL” shouldn’t be surrendering a 4 point lead with 3 minutes left at home. That’s my only point. Make more of that if you will.
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If they had a real quarterback they were probably a playoff team the way their defense played down the stretch. But they didn’t.
Fields can’t catch the ball for Tyler Scott or Darnell Mooney.
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Scott had a critical drop late against Cleveland, too. Not a perfect throw from Justin but quite catchable. That drop made the Hail Mary necessary.
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I never gave the defense the full blame for the Steelers’ loss. But the “best defense in the NFL” shouldn’t be surrendering a 4 point lead with 3 minutes left at home. That’s my only point. Make more of that if you will.
The Steeler D gave you no reason to believe in it up to that point. As I said at the time, the only question was how the Dallas O would shoot itself in the foot.
Way different than defending against a Hail Mary like we saw today.
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Fields can’t catch the ball for Tyler Scott or Darnell Mooney.
Glad you brought up Mooney. He’s made your shit last year look pretty hilarious, not that you’d ever acknowledge it.
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But even though they gave up the late score, the loss is still on the offense for only mustering 17 points yeah?
If my offense is any good, 20 points given up by my defense should be a win most nights. Do you agree?
The offense needs to play better. But if my bread is buttered by my defense, and trust me, Tomlin thinks his is buttered by his defense; I need my defense to make a stop on the last drive of the game at home.
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Fields can’t catch the ball for Tyler Scott or Darnell Mooney.
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Caleb Williams would not have let the Commander WR get behind him if he was out there for that last play.
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I’d be willing to bet the Steelers’ defense didn’t walk off the field thinking their offense blew it.
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Glad you brought up Mooney. He’s made your shit last year look pretty hilarious, not that you’d ever acknowledge it.
He was bad last year. That’s why the Bears didn’t bring him back. Sometimes a change of scenery is good for a guy. It’s working for Darnold. Mooney was never the same after being injured in 2022. Maybe there were lingering effects. But make no mistake, Mooney was bad last year.
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If the Bears thought Mooney was a difference maker he’d still be here. Fact. They obviously didn’t see enough to bring him back, and they saw him every day.
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I’d be willing to bet the Steelers’ defense didn’t walk off the field thinking their offense blew it.
I hope not. I doubt the Bear D walked off today thinking the O blew it.
If the Kramer handoff was the last play, I would definitely agree that the O blew this game. It wasn't though.
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If the Nears thought Mooney was a difference maker he’d still be here. Fact.
And yet, Mooney is playing and Scott and Velus aren't. Another good job by Poles.
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They were terrible the whole night. They aren't the best defense. Your expectations were misplaced. That is the point.
Talking heads said they were the best defense. I wasn’t really making a statement myself. I said can’t be the best defense in the NFL if you’re giving up 4 point leads at home with 3 minutes left. The best defense in the league is in KC.
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Talking heads said they were the best defense. I wasn’t really making a statement myself. I said can’t be the best defense in the NFL if you’re giving up 4 point leads at home with 3 minutes left. The best defense in the league is in KC.
You were expecting them to make a stand. Watching that game, there was no reason to believe that was going to happen.
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And yet, Mooney is playing and Scott and Velus aren't. Another good job by Poles.
Again, find me a GM that doesn’t make mistakes and I’ll show you a unicorn.
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You were expecting them to make a stand. Watching that game, there was no reason to believe that was going to happen.
Yes, I would expect an elite defensive unit to make one stand at home with the game on the line. Especially when the clock was at least somewhat in their favor.
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Again, find me a GM that doesn’t make mistakes and I’ll show you a unicorn.
This guy has made more than his share though. Sweat/DL, OL, WRs.....
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If they were the 18th ranked defense, you’re right, I wouldn’t have “expected” a stand.
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At that time they were probably the best defense in the league statistically by a wide margin. Not sure they were playing powerhouses though.
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Yes, I would expect an elite defensive unit to make one stand at home with the game on the line. Especially when the clock was at least somewhat in their favor.
It was obvious they were not elite that game. A diminished Dallas O went through them the whole game like a hot knife through butter.
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This guy has made more than his share though. Sweat/DL, OL, WRs.....
You’re literally the only person in existence who thinks Sweat was a “mistake.”
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It was obvious they were not elite that game. A diminished Dallas O went through them the whole game like a hot knife through butter.
One stand. Wanna be elite? You gotta make one late stand at home when the opponent is in the 2 minute offense.
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Most GMs do not achieve what Poles
has done in two years. He probably got the coach wrong. But for all we know George told him that was his coach.
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This Bears team should probably be 6-1. 5-2 at worst.
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Just like neither unit was great today, all is forgiven if you make a stop and get a win. The Steelers and the Bears both couldn’t do that. Plenty of blame to go around.
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Get to the playoffs or get the fuck out of here, Flus.
This BS shouldn’t stand.
https://detroitsportsnation.com/viral-video-shows-bears-cb-tyrique-stevenson-mocking-commanders-fans-prior-to-epic-hail-mary/wgbrady/detroit-lions/10/27/2024/462656/
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And please tell me someone asked Flus why Sweat wasn’t on the field for the Hail Mary…
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Inexcusable. Fitting he was the one that tipped it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXVG13W1/IMG-9335.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3MFytRn)
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Fucking losers
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Inexcusable. Fitting he was the one that tipped it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXVG13W1/IMG-9335.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3MFytRn)
Bruh that pic looks shopped
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Wow they showed that angle on the snf halftime report and its real, what a fucking dumbass
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Beans and weinies for that guy
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You’re literally the only person in existence who thinks Sweat was a “mistake.”
Dude was not on the field, again, for the big defensive stand to win the game.
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Inexcusable. Fitting he was the one that tipped it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXVG13W1/IMG-9335.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3MFytRn)
Great coaching that holds players accountable!
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One stand. Wanna be elite? You gotta make one late stand at home when the opponent is in the 2 minute offense.
They obviously are not Elite and the Talking Heads were wrong, like they were about Fields
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Dude was not on the field, again, for the big defensive stand to win the game.
None of the Bears best pass rushers were on the field. And the defensive guru Eberflus used Edmunds as a QB spy. Was he that afraid that Daniels was going to run it in from 60 yards? The extra rusher might have helped. Using one of the three timeouts that he held on to for some reason might have also helped. Classic Eberflus masterclass on how to blow a game.
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Inexcusable. Fitting he was the one that tipped it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXVG13W1/IMG-9335.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3MFytRn)
And that is a cuttable offense. He was a fucking idiot all game too.
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Glad you brought up Mooney. He’s made your shit last year look pretty hilarious, not that you’d ever acknowledge it.
Darnell Mooney was not good last year. Not that you’d ever acknowledge it. You’re the stats and metrics guy. The metrics show that Mooney was solidly in the bottom 20% of the league at getting open last year. And he had at least two drops that could have won games in his last season and a half as a Bear. The double clutch against Washington at the goal line, and the dropped Hail Mary that was literally in his arms. I’m pretty sure he had a 3rd critical drop in there somewhere but don’t recall specifics. Ryan Poles and the Bears saw Darnell Mooney every day the last two years and I’m not sure they even made an effort to keep him. But sure, he’s a no brainer difference making player. He was not the same as a Bear after coming back from injury.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7wVqb8h/IMG-9336.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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And 33% of the blame is a decent chunk of the blame. Certainly more than the zero or near zero you try to hang around my neck. It was a steep uphill battle for Justin as a Bear, but ultimately he didn’t do enough to secure his starting job here.
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And that is a cuttable offense. He was a fucking idiot all game too.
No one is cutting him over this. But I would probably sit him a half next week. If a guy is your 6th DB maybe you cut him.
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None of the Bears best pass rushers were on the field. And the defensive guru Eberflus used Edmunds as a QB spy. Was he that afraid that Daniels was going to run it in from 60 yards? The extra rusher might have helped. Using one of the three timeouts that he held on to for some reason might have also helped. Classic Eberflus masterclass on how to blow a game.
To me, the setup with no rushers and trying to bat down a hail mary is the real problem here.
Daniels has a hell of an arm, he threw from the 35 and the ball got to the 5 yard line. But he was able to wander around long enough for his receivers to get 60 yards down the field, and step into the throw. Three rushers and then one LB sort of randomly wandering around at the 50 doing nothing. The Commanders had 6 blockers - the OL and the RB. Add in Daniels, that's 7 players. So only 4 players downfield. Bears had 7 players downfield. There should be at least 5 Bears players going after Daniels, including the guy randomly picking his ass. If Daniels can't get a good run at it, the ball gets nowhere near the goal line.
That last play of Illinois/Nebraska, the Illini blitzed, sack, game over.
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But I can't believe that the fighting Bo Nix's have a better record than the Bears, given the Broncos losses were just flat out awful.
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But I can't believe that the fighting Bo Nix's have a better record than the Bears, given the Broncos losses were just flat out awful.
I was AOTC on Nix
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I was AOTC on Nix
Careful.
That ball bounces the opposite direction and the bears have one more win, the Jets make the FG against Denver and they have one more loss. Denver hasn't really been very impressive - and neither has Nix
But I'm super pumped that not only do the Jets have a bad record but multiple nut punches
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERk9GsboVrM
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Careful.
That ball bounces the opposite direction and the bears have one more win, the Jets make the FG against Denver and they have one more loss. Denver hasn't really been very impressive - and neither has Nix
But I'm super pumped that not only do the Jets have a bad record but multiple nut punches
The Broncos are actually making a decent comeback from the shitstorm that they've had to deal with. That Wilson trade and contract really fucked them. They're still trying to dig out of that shit, and to give them credit, they're on the rebound from it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERk9GsboVrM
Not clicking on Rex Ryan, man. Sorry. Just can't do it.
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No one is cutting him over this. But I would probably sit him a half next week. If a guy is your 6th DB maybe you cut him.
Yeah I was being dramatic. Obviously not getting cut but make him find his own way to Arizona with Eberflus and Waldron at the very least.
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Not clicking on Rex Ryan, man. Sorry. Just can't do it.
You could click on it with your toe. Maybe Rex would be all over that.
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Yeah I was being dramatic. Obviously not getting cut but make him find his own way to Arizona with Eberflus and Waldron at the very least.
He won't get cut, but things got a lot more difficult for him. Fan bases don't really tolerate that kind of shit unless you can back it up. He's on thin ice.
I would still fire Waldron for that bullshit Kramer handoff, but that's just me.
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Not clicking on Rex Ryan, man. Sorry. Just can't do it.
this piece was really very good, worth watching imo
Echoed a lot of things, also - when the DB was showboating before the snap - why didn't the Bears HC call a timeout to set that fucker straight? Or even just a planned one given the look Washington was setting up?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERk9GsboVrM
Giving McLaurin a free 15 yards before the hail mary was not a good decision either. The Commanders had no timeouts and Eberflus made their hail mary attempt easier, then says allowing those yards "didn't matter." Well, they obviously did since there's no way Daniels would have had enough juice to do it from his own 25 yard line. His throw came up just short of the end zone when he launched it from the 35 yard line.
The most baffling thing is that Eberflus could have used anyone of his three timeouts to set up his defense, tell his cocky DB to stop shit talking the fans and get the proper personnel in there. He chose not to do any of that because he's a fucking loser coach with a losing culture.
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he's a fucking loser coach with a losing culture.
Welcome to The Dark Side.
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I guess we could say PAMan was AOTC on Eberflus, but he’d already came to the conclusion that Eberflus sucked when he failed to make the playoffs with the worst roster in the league in 2022.
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I guess we could say PAMan was AOTC on Eberflus, but he’d already came to the conclusion that Eberflus sucked when he failed to make the playoffs with the worst roster in the league in 2022.
The fact is you could tell he has sucked the whole time he has been here regardless of the roster, yet the guy who laughably thinks Fields is good couldn't see it. Figures.
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The fact is you could tell he has sucked the whole time he has been here regardless of the roster, yet the guy who laughably thinks Fields is good couldn't see it. Figures.
What stood out to you specifically that he sucked when he had the worst talent in the league?
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You literally complained that a team purposely stripped down to the studs wasn’t in the playoffs.
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Giving a coach a FAIR evaluation after taking over a team purposely stripped of its best assets, with like 25 one year contract players, in his rookie season as a HC, with a rookie OC and a 23 year old QB with 8 or so starts under his belt seems like an improbable proposition.
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You literally complained that a team purposely stripped down to the studs wasn’t in the playoffs.
I complained that the coach was obviously a buffoon. Which was on full display in the last series of Sunday's game and continuing through Monday. You going to deny it?
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Giving a coach a FAIR evaluation after taking over a team purposely stripped of its best assets, with like 25 one year contract players, in his rookie season as a HC, with a rookie OC and a 23 year old QB with 8 or so starts under his belt seems like an improbable proposition.
Sorry that you couldn't see that he has never had them ready to play early in the season.
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I complained that the coach was obviously a buffoon.
Of course you did! As I pointed out the other day, for every 1 thing you’re happy with, there’s 99 you’re unhappy with. Labeling Flus a bad head coach two months into his rookie season was not a fair evaluation. There were things I didn’t like early on (like the acronyms), but I was willing to give him a fair shot. He’s had it now. Miss the playoffs and he’s done. Then we give our 3rd QB in a row a new coach in his 2nd season. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Of course you did! As I pointed out the other day, for every 1 thing you’re happy with, there’s 99 you’re unhappy with. Labeling Flus a bad head coach two months into his rookie season was not a fair evaluation. There were things I didn’t like early on (like the acronyms), but I was willing to give him a fair shot. He’s had it now. Miss the playoffs and he’s done. Then we give our 3rd QB in a row a new coach in his 2nd season. Wash, rinse, repeat.
May not have been fair, but it definitely was accurate. "On target" thingy you like to use here.
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I complained that the coach was obviously a buffoon. Which was on full display in the last series of Sunday's game and continuing through Monday. You going to deny it?
This comment points out that the last defensive series was so goddamn bad that we completely forget that on 3rd and goal from the one they tried to hand the ball off to an offensive lineman
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Of course you did! As I pointed out the other day, for every 1 thing you’re happy with, there’s 99 you’re unhappy with. Labeling Flus a bad head coach two months into his rookie season was not a fair evaluation. There were things I didn’t like early on (like the acronyms), but I was willing to give him a fair shot. He’s had it now. Miss the playoffs and he’s done. Then we give our 3rd QB in a row a new coach in his 2nd season. Wash, rinse, repeat.
You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences
Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes
You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.
3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.
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You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences
Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes
You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.
3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.
Yep
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May not have been fair, but it definitely was accurate. "On target" thingy you like to use here.
Yeah; but when you knee jerk hate EVERYTHING like you do, how much of it is being smart or just blind squirrel finding a nut?
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You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences
Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes
You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.
3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.
Eberflus literally went through a 14 game losing streak and didn’t lose the lockerroom. I don’t think effort or motivation has been questioned very often outside of the PAMan’s irrational rants.
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Yeah; but when you knee jerk hate EVERYTHING like you do, how much of it is being smart or just blind squirrel finding a nut?
I do not hate everything. I have been very complimentary of the Bear secondary. That is Poles' bright spot.
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Eberflus literally went through a 14 game losing streak and didn’t lose the lockerroom. I don’t think effort or motivation has been questioned very often outside of the PAMan’s irrational rants.
He didn't lose the locker room at that point because he runs a damned country club and there were no expectations (especially with Sh1t under center). It sure as hell sounds like he is losing the locker room this year after he told Lewis (I think I have this right) to go speak with Waldron about scripting plays (so much for Eberlose being the "head coach") and after this weekend where even the players are now openly criticizing his bullshit.
Some of us do not have the ability or luxury of living in fantasy land like you choose to do.
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I do not hate everything. I have been very complimentary of the Bear secondary. That is Poles' bright spot.
the secondary that let someone get behind them on a hail mary?
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the secondary that let someone get behind them on a hail mary?
Yes, even Dipshit Stevenson can add valuable depth when you have Concussion Boy Brisker and Gordon out.
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Tempo, it has been so long since you have been AOTC that you forget it can be a curse as a much as a blessing.
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Eberflus literally went through a 14 game losing streak and didn’t lose the lockerroom. I don’t think effort or motivation has been questioned very often outside of the PAMan’s irrational rants.
Does having your player standing around taunting in the middle of the last play of the game instead of doing his job count as losing the locker room?
I guess really the players won't lose confidence in him, they will lose confidence in Stevenson
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Welcome to The Dark Side.
I've been on the dark side. Eberflus should have been fired after last year but the Bears being the Bears man.
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I do not hate everything. I have been very complimentary of the Bear secondary. That is Poles' bright spot.
PAMan likes the secondary. Build a statue to commemorate this moment. Secondary didn’t exactly do their job Sunday, did they? Specifically Tyrique Stevenson.
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I've been on the dark side. Eberflus should have been fired after last year but the Bears being the Bears man.
I even said that if you’re going to draft Caleb, it makes sense to fire Eberflus. Instead, for the third time in a row, The Bears will be giving a 2nd year QB a new coach and a new system.
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Does having your player standing around taunting in the middle of the last play of the game instead of doing his job count as losing the locker room?
No, that’s a one-off situation.
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He didn't lose the locker room at that point because he runs a damned country club and there were no expectations (especially with Sh1t under center). It sure as hell sounds like he is losing the locker room this year after he told Lewis (I think I have this right) to go speak with Waldron about scripting plays (so much for Eberlose being the "head coach") and after this weekend where even the players are now openly criticizing his bullshit.
Some of us do not have the ability or luxury of living in fantasy land like you choose to do.
Your country club theory runs contrary to the story where players said practices were too hard. That was year one though, and that type of stuff isn’t really covered in media unless it’s making news. What it’s been like since then I can’t say with any certainty. It does seem there’s been some easing of practice habits though. But again, I’m not there. I’m merely speculating.
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Flus came in with a “loaf” grading system which is supposed to be graded during practice, too. Are they still doing it? I don’t know. I actually hated the idea of a loaf system and wanted it gotten rid of. But I didn’t want accountability thrown out with it. I’d love to hear someone ask Flus these questions.
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You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences
Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes
You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.
3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.
Flus’ defensive adjustments on average are good. But somehow we still have too many things blow up in our face late in games. We thought Waldron was making progress as an OC, but he took a big step backwards Sunday.
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More and more I’m realizing Bears beat reporters kind of suck.
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Your country club theory runs contrary to the story where players said practices were too hard. That was year one though, and that type of stuff isn’t really covered in media unless it’s making news. What it’s been like since then I can’t say with any certainty. It does seem there’s been some easing of practice habits though. But again, I’m not there. I’m merely speculating.
Dude, we have seen them suck at the beginning of each year and, with one exception, after a bye week. What more do you need to see?
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More and more I’m realizing Bears beat reporters kind of suck.
Bears beat reporters have failed Wayne Whitlock?
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This comment points out that the last defensive series was so goddamn bad that we completely forget that on 3rd and goal from the one they tried to hand the ball off to an offensive lineman
I'm still fucking pissed about this. Like, I think I'm more pissed about this than the hail mary. The absolute fucking stupidity of that was just...Fuck. I don't even know what to say about it.
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More and more I’m realizing Bears beat reporters kind of suck.
Well, we always knew you were slow. That's why you drive Ubers for a living.
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Well, we always knew you were slow. That's why you drive Ubers for a living.
Recidivist. Look it up.
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I’d be willing to bet the Steelers’ defense didn’t walk off the field thinking their offense blew it.
Think of how this relates to the Bears on Sunday. Read that again a couple of times if you need to.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/this-dan-quinn-comment-is-positively-damning-for-matt-eberflus/
Tempo's Guy, before Sunday night, taking shots from opposing coaches. SMDH how far BTC Tempo has been on this doofus.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/this-dan-quinn-comment-is-positively-damning-for-matt-eberflus/
Tempo's Guy, before Sunday night, taking shots from opposing coaches. SMDH how far BTC Tempo has been on this doofus.
You exaggerate to the point of lying.
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Rich Lazy DJ Moore!
Let’s be real here. If any receivers had been taking plays off last year (when Fields was still here), PAMan would have been saying something like “Who could blame him/them, he/they know they aren’t getting an accurate pass.” One million percent this comment would come from his fingers.
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Let’s be real here. If any receivers had been taking plays off last year (when Fields was still here), PAMan would have been saying something like “Who could blame him/them, he/they know they aren’t getting an accurate pass.” One million percent this comment would come from his fingers.
I did not blame them when Fields was the QB. Fields is the Kamala Harris of QBs.