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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #165 on: October 27, 2024, 07:47:15 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 27, 2024, 07:45:37 PM
They were terrible the whole night. They aren't the best defense. Your expectations were misplaced. That is the point.

The point is I heard two talking heads call them the “best defense in the NFL” the week before that loss. You can’t give up a TD drive late at home if you want to be called the best defense in the NFL. That’s my only point.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #166 on: October 27, 2024, 07:50:29 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:47:15 PM
The point is I heard two talking heads call them the “best defense in the NFL” the week before that loss. You can’t give up a TD drive late at home if you want to be called the best defense in the NFL. That’s my only point.

You have been warned about the views of NFL Talking Heads, since their views on Fields were off, yet you still take heed. That is your fault!
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #167 on: October 27, 2024, 07:50:51 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:47:15 PM
The point is I heard two talking heads call them the “best defense in the NFL” the week before that loss. You can’t give up a TD drive late at home if you want to be called the best defense in the NFL. That’s my only point.

But even though they gave up the late score, the loss is still on the offense for only mustering 17 points yeah?

If my offense is any good, 20 points given up by my defense should be a win most nights.  Do you agree?
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #168 on: October 27, 2024, 07:51:26 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 27, 2024, 07:40:32 PM
Jesus hahaha.

The Fields thing continues to be one of the weirdest phenomena I ever remember in sports.

Both games - Bears today and Steelers against the Cowboys - were both good defensive performances where their opponents didn’t score much but their offenses didn’t score enough to win.

If my defense gives up 18 or less and I lose, that is not on my defense.

I never gave the defense the full blame for the Steelers’ loss. But the “best defense in the NFL” shouldn’t be surrendering a 4 point lead with 3 minutes left at home. That’s my only point. Make more of that if you will.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #169 on: October 27, 2024, 07:52:44 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 27, 2024, 07:42:19 PM
If they had a real quarterback they were probably a playoff team the way their defense played down the stretch.  But they didn’t.

Fields can’t catch the ball for Tyler Scott or Darnell Mooney.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #170 on: October 27, 2024, 07:53:51 PM »
Scott had a critical drop late against Cleveland, too. Not a perfect throw from Justin but quite catchable. That drop made the Hail Mary necessary.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #171 on: October 27, 2024, 07:54:25 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:51:26 PM
I never gave the defense the full blame for the Steelers’ loss. But the “best defense in the NFL” shouldn’t be surrendering a 4 point lead with 3 minutes left at home. That’s my only point. Make more of that if you will.

The Steeler D gave you no reason to believe in it up to that point. As I said at the time, the only question was how the Dallas O would shoot itself in the foot.

Way different than defending against a Hail Mary like we saw today.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #172 on: October 27, 2024, 07:55:08 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:52:44 PM
Fields can’t catch the ball for Tyler Scott or Darnell Mooney.

Glad you brought up Mooney.  He’s made your shit last year look pretty hilarious, not that you’d ever acknowledge it.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #173 on: October 27, 2024, 07:55:17 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 27, 2024, 07:50:51 PM
But even though they gave up the late score, the loss is still on the offense for only mustering 17 points yeah?

If my offense is any good, 20 points given up by my defense should be a win most nights.  Do you agree?

The offense needs to play better. But if my bread is buttered by my defense, and trust me, Tomlin thinks his is buttered by his defense; I need my defense to make a stop on the last drive of the game at home.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #174 on: October 27, 2024, 07:55:42 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:52:44 PM
Fields can’t catch the ball for Tyler Scott or Darnell Mooney.
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Caleb Williams would not have let the Commander WR get behind him if he was out there for that last play.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #175 on: October 27, 2024, 07:56:08 PM »
I’d be willing to bet the Steelers’ defense didn’t walk off the field thinking their offense blew it.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #176 on: October 27, 2024, 07:57:51 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 27, 2024, 07:55:08 PM
Glad you brought up Mooney.  He’s made your shit last year look pretty hilarious, not that you’d ever acknowledge it.

He was bad last year. That’s why the Bears didn’t bring him back. Sometimes a change of scenery is good for a guy. It’s working for Darnold. Mooney was never the same after being injured in 2022. Maybe there were lingering effects. But make no mistake, Mooney was bad last year.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #177 on: October 27, 2024, 07:58:53 PM »
If the Bears thought Mooney was a difference maker he’d still be here. Fact. They obviously didn’t see enough to bring him back, and they saw him every day.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #178 on: October 27, 2024, 07:59:01 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:56:08 PM
I’d be willing to bet the Steelers’ defense didn’t walk off the field thinking their offense blew it.

I hope not. I doubt the Bear D walked off today thinking the O blew it.

If the Kramer handoff was the last play, I would definitely  agree that the O blew this game. It wasn't though.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #179 on: October 27, 2024, 08:00:05 PM »
Quote from: TheSkepticalMan on October 27, 2024, 07:58:53 PM
If the Nears thought Mooney was a difference maker he’d still be here. Fact.

And yet, Mooney is playing and Scott and Velus aren't.  Another good job by Poles.
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