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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #225 on: October 29, 2024, 09:09:02 AM »
Giving a coach a FAIR evaluation after taking over a team purposely stripped of its best assets, with like 25 one year contract players, in his rookie season as a HC, with a rookie OC and a 23 year old QB with 8 or so starts under his belt seems like an improbable proposition.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #226 on: October 29, 2024, 09:10:08 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 29, 2024, 08:44:58 AM
You literally complained that a team purposely stripped down to the studs wasn’t in the playoffs.

I complained that the coach was obviously a buffoon. Which was on full display in the last series of Sunday's game and continuing through Monday. You going to deny it?
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #227 on: October 29, 2024, 09:11:06 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 29, 2024, 09:09:02 AM
Giving a coach a FAIR evaluation after taking over a team purposely stripped of its best assets, with like 25 one year contract players, in his rookie season as a HC, with a rookie OC and a 23 year old QB with 8 or so starts under his belt seems like an improbable proposition.
Sorry that you couldn't see that he has never had them ready to play early in the season.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #228 on: October 29, 2024, 09:26:58 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 29, 2024, 09:10:08 AM
I complained that the coach was obviously a buffoon.

Of course you did! As I pointed out the other day, for every 1 thing you’re happy with, there’s 99 you’re unhappy with. Labeling Flus a bad head coach two months into his rookie season was not a fair evaluation. There were things I didn’t like early on (like the acronyms), but I was willing to give him a fair shot. He’s had it now. Miss the playoffs and he’s done. Then we give our 3rd QB in a row a new coach in his 2nd season. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #229 on: October 29, 2024, 10:00:43 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 29, 2024, 09:26:58 AM
Of course you did! As I pointed out the other day, for every 1 thing you’re happy with, there’s 99 you’re unhappy with. Labeling Flus a bad head coach two months into his rookie season was not a fair evaluation. There were things I didn’t like early on (like the acronyms), but I was willing to give him a fair shot. He’s had it now. Miss the playoffs and he’s done. Then we give our 3rd QB in a row a new coach in his 2nd season. Wash, rinse, repeat.


May not have been fair, but it definitely was accurate. "On target" thingy you like to use here.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #230 on: October 29, 2024, 10:51:41 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 29, 2024, 09:10:08 AM
I complained that the coach was obviously a buffoon. Which was on full display in the last series of Sunday's game and continuing through Monday. You going to deny it?

This comment points out that the last defensive series was so goddamn bad that we completely forget that on 3rd and goal from the one they tried to hand the ball off to an offensive lineman
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #231 on: October 29, 2024, 10:55:55 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 29, 2024, 09:26:58 AM
Of course you did! As I pointed out the other day, for every 1 thing you’re happy with, there’s 99 you’re unhappy with. Labeling Flus a bad head coach two months into his rookie season was not a fair evaluation. There were things I didn’t like early on (like the acronyms), but I was willing to give him a fair shot. He’s had it now. Miss the playoffs and he’s done. Then we give our 3rd QB in a row a new coach in his 2nd season. Wash, rinse, repeat.

You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences

Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes

You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.

3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #232 on: October 29, 2024, 11:23:00 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on October 29, 2024, 10:55:55 AM
You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences

Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes

You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.

3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.

Yep
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #233 on: October 29, 2024, 11:44:56 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 29, 2024, 10:00:43 AM

May not have been fair, but it definitely was accurate. "On target" thingy you like to use here.

Yeah; but when you knee jerk hate EVERYTHING like you do, how much of it is being smart or just blind squirrel finding a nut?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #234 on: October 29, 2024, 11:47:27 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on October 29, 2024, 10:55:55 AM
You win with good players. A head coach has a couple of key influences

Getting the players jacked up to perform
Not making basic strategic mistakes

You could be 4-13 but the coach could get a good evaluation because the players - however bad they are - are playing as hard as they can for the coach and you can see that the team strategy portion is executed properly. Clock management, down and distance calling, throwing in wrinkles when they make sense but not doing utterly head scratching Les Miles type shit. Correct player substitution and management.

3 extremely major fuckups towards the end of one game. That's pretty bad.

Eberflus literally went through a 14 game losing streak and didn’t lose the lockerroom. I don’t think effort or motivation has been questioned very often outside of the PAMan’s irrational rants.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #235 on: October 29, 2024, 11:49:23 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 29, 2024, 11:44:56 AM
Yeah; but when you knee jerk hate EVERYTHING like you do, how much of it is being smart or just blind squirrel finding a nut?

I do not hate everything. I have been very complimentary of the Bear secondary. That is Poles' bright spot.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #236 on: October 29, 2024, 11:53:56 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 29, 2024, 11:47:27 AM
Eberflus literally went through a 14 game losing streak and didn’t lose the lockerroom. I don’t think effort or motivation has been questioned very often outside of the PAMan’s irrational rants.

He didn't lose the locker room at that point because he runs a damned country club and there were no expectations (especially with Sh1t under center). It sure as hell sounds like he is losing the locker room this year after he told Lewis (I think I have this right) to go speak with Waldron about scripting plays (so much for Eberlose being the "head coach") and after this weekend where even the players are now openly criticizing his bullshit.

Some of us do not have the ability or luxury of living in fantasy land like you choose to do.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #237 on: October 29, 2024, 11:54:27 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 29, 2024, 11:49:23 AM
I do not hate everything. I have been very complimentary of the Bear secondary. That is Poles' bright spot.

the secondary that let someone get behind them on a hail mary?
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #238 on: October 29, 2024, 11:56:24 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on October 29, 2024, 11:54:27 AM
the secondary that let someone get behind them on a hail mary?

Yes, even Dipshit Stevenson can add valuable depth when you have Concussion Boy Brisker and Gordon out.
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Re: Bears vs Commanders
« Reply #239 on: October 29, 2024, 11:57:20 AM »
Tempo, it has been so long since you have been AOTC that you forget it can be a curse as a much as a blessing.
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