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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4350 on: July 30, 2025, 03:23:15 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 30, 2025, 01:42:34 PM
because we keep letting low IQ immigrants into the country

Yeah, not sure that is the problem in, say, West Virginia. The whole "Florida Man" thing does not feature an "immigrant." Low IQ, definitely, but not an "immigrant."
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4351 on: July 30, 2025, 04:03:19 PM »
Calling Venezuela a properly functioning democracy seems like a huge stretch. It’s a hell of a lot closer to a dictatorship.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4352 on: July 30, 2025, 04:05:12 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on July 30, 2025, 01:14:02 PM
lofl

Who advocates for defunding the police ? The democratic socialists or the social democrats ?

I would say that’s a fringe subset of the Democratic Socialists. 
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4353 on: July 30, 2025, 04:06:20 PM »
Also, “defunding the police” is a vague term. I’d be for defunding them to some degree. They don’t need a lot of the military equipment they get for example.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4354 on: July 30, 2025, 04:36:40 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on July 30, 2025, 01:14:02 PM
lofl

Who advocates for defunding the police ? The democratic socialists or the social democrats ?

The GOP. They prefer to defund the police and just go with strict military control. The police do things like help old ladies cross the street, and also they do things like investigate rape allegations against GOP politicians, and pull over Matt Gaetz for DUI. Useless. The military takes orders man, go beat up some Mexicans.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4355 on: July 30, 2025, 04:37:23 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 30, 2025, 01:42:34 PM
because we keep letting low IQ immigrants into the country
I work with thousands of immigrants. Every single one of them has a higher IQ than you.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4356 on: July 30, 2025, 04:47:09 PM »
Quote from: Donnie the Pedo on July 30, 2025, 04:05:12 PM
I would say that’s a fringe subset of the Democratic Socialists. 
Quote from: Donnie the Pedo on July 30, 2025, 04:06:20 PM
Also, “defunding the police” is a vague term. I’d be for defunding them to some degree. They don’t need a lot of the military equipment they get for example.
You're not an elected Congressperson and AOC appears to disagree.
“Defunding police means defunding police,” the congresswoman said in a statement. “It does not mean budget tricks or funny math.

And the Wiki describes her as a member of the Democratic party, not as in a fringe subset of democratic socialists.
"She is a member of the Democratic Party."

The Minneapolis mayoral candidate advocates for defunding the police and he's endorsed by the DFL ( the Democratic-Farm-Labor party), who are Democrats to the rest of the world. It would be difficult to label him as in a fringe subset of democratic socialists if he's endorsed by the Democratic party.

But heh, anything to get him elected. Maybe even say he's a social democrat.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4357 on: July 30, 2025, 05:07:06 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on July 30, 2025, 01:14:02 PM

Who advocates for defunding the police ? The democratic socialists or the social democrats ?

It probably depends on who is using the terms, how they are using them.

Republicans call for defunding social programs that help people. Defund the Police is a semi-sarcastic retort that means different things to different people.

- Downsizing -- Reduce some of the funding that goes to law enforcement and divert it to proven crime prevention programs.

-Completely defund current effed up law enforcement and start over with a reformed version that serves the public.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4358 on: July 30, 2025, 05:09:22 PM »
Quote from: Donnie the Pedo on July 30, 2025, 04:05:12 PM
I would say that’s a fringe subset of the Democratic Socialists.

C'mon man. You can't be serious
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4359 on: July 30, 2025, 05:10:50 PM »
Lot of deflection and denial here
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4360 on: July 30, 2025, 05:12:05 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 30, 2025, 04:36:40 PM
The GOP. They prefer to defund the police and just go with strict military control. The police do things like help old ladies cross the street, and also they do things like investigate rape allegations against GOP politicians, and pull over Matt Gaetz for DUI. Useless. The military takes orders man, go beat up some Mexicans.

Yes. They want to defund social services, including those provided by police, and divert  money from community policing to authoritarian style policing.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4361 on: July 30, 2025, 05:16:25 PM »
AI Overview

The slogan "Defund the Police" became prominent during the George Floyd protests in 2020. It has different interpretations, but generally refers to reallocating or redirecting funding from police departments to other social services and community support initiatives.

Here are the key aspects of the "Defund the Police" movement

Reallocation of funds: This is the core idea. Instead of increasing police budgets, proponents suggest diverting funds to areas like education, housing, healthcare, mental health services, and community-based violence prevention programs.

Emphasis on addressing root causes of crime: The belief is that by investing in social services and community development, the underlying issues that contribute to crime (poverty, lack of opportunity, mental health crises) can be addressed, ultimately reducing the need for police intervention.

Demilitarization of police: The movement also advocates for reducing the militaristic aspects of policing, including acquiring military-grade equipment.

Shifting responsibilities: Some proponents advocate for specialized teams, like mental health professionals or social workers, to handle situations that don't require armed officers, such as mental health crises or homelessness interventions.

Varying degrees of reduction: While some activists advocate for the complete abolition of existing police systems, others propose more modest cuts and reforms.

Rethinking public safety: The movement aims to redefine what constitutes public safety and envision new models that prioritize community well-being and preventative approaches rather than relying primarily on law enforcement to address all societal problems.

It's important to note that the "Defund the Police" movement has faced criticism and controversy. Some argue that it would lead to increased crime rates and reduced public safety. However, proponents counter that investing in community programs can be a more effective way to reduce crime in the long term.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4362 on: July 30, 2025, 05:46:42 PM »
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is among the proponents of the call to defund the police, and a recent post on her Instagram story on the subject quickly went viral, after it was screenshotted and shared by Twitter user Ashley Quan. Asked, "What does an America with defunded police look like to you?" Ocasio-Cortez responded, "It looks like a suburb."

"Affluent white communities already live in a world where the choose to fund youth, health, housing etc more than they fund police," Ocasio-Cortez explained. "When a teenager or preteen does something harmful in a suburb (I say teen bc this is often where lifelong carceral cycles begin for Black and Brown communities), White communities bend over backwards to find alternatives to incarceration for their loved ones to 'protect their future,' like community service or rehab or restorative measures. Why don't we treat Black and Brown people the same way?

"Why doesn't the criminal system care about Black teens' futures the way they care for White teens' futures?" AOC continued. "Why doesn't the news use Black people's graduation or family photos in stories the way they do when they cover White people (eg Brock Turner) who commit harmful crimes?"

Affluent White suburbs also design their own lives so that they walk through the world without having much interruption or interaction with police at all aside from community events and speeding tickets (and many of these communities try to reduce those, too!)

Just starting THERE would be a dramatically and radically different world than what we are experiencing now.

http://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/in-the-news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-was-asked-about-defunding-police-and-her-answer-went
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4363 on: July 30, 2025, 08:13:16 PM »
Hilarious, yet dangerously delusional.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4364 on: July 30, 2025, 08:33:36 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 30, 2025, 05:09:22 PM
C'mon man. You can't be serious

I’m very serious. Have Bernie and Pocohantes called for defunding the police? If so, I missed it.
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