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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4320 on: July 29, 2025, 12:17:29 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 28, 2025, 05:10:09 PM
As I have pushed here repeatedly, the terms Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism are frequently conflated in the United States. However, in some circles, and especially in Europe, they are clearly distinguished.

Social Democracy = a mixed economy. Primarily free markets with some central planning.

Similarly  fascism, conservativism, neo-liberalism, capitalism, monopolism, and nationalism all tend to get lumped together in the USA.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4321 on: July 29, 2025, 12:31:56 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 28, 2025, 05:10:09 PM
As I have pushed here repeatedly, the terms Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism are frequently conflated in the United States. However, in some circles, and especially in Europe, they are clearly distinguished.

Social Democracy = a mixed economy. Primarily free markets with some central planning.

Similarly  fascism, conservativism, neo-liberalism, capitalism, monopolism, and nationalism all tend to get lumped together in the USA.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4322 on: July 29, 2025, 07:50:41 AM »
Other than the gaslighting, notice any differences ? Lol
It's to serve a purpose similar to Abrego Garcia being a 'Maryland man', the Manhatten shooter being 'possibly white' or the Honduran illegal immigrant drunk driver, with a previous DUI, who killed 2 Minnesota teenagers a 'Wisconsin woman'.
The "social democrat" story vs the "democratic socialist" story presented by, and about, the same people.


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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4323 on: July 29, 2025, 12:14:35 PM »
https://chronicleillinois.com/news/cook-county-news/chicago-man-charged-with-hate-crimes/

Philip Dominguez is the fella who allegedly spray painted swastikas and "ICE Rules" on a Latino community center and the state senator's district office.

Like Philip is his real first name!
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4324 on: July 29, 2025, 05:54:21 PM »
I love that many conservatives can’t tell the difference between Denmark and Venezuela.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4325 on: July 29, 2025, 05:56:22 PM »
Maybe these Democrats are just very gregarious?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4326 on: July 29, 2025, 06:57:56 PM »
By and large
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4327 on: July 29, 2025, 07:54:38 PM »
Quote from: Democratic Talking Point on July 29, 2025, 05:56:22 PM
Maybe these Democrats are just very gregarious?

We know better. They hate America and capitalism.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4328 on: July 29, 2025, 08:05:49 PM »
Maybe they don't care much for crony capitalism, monopolies, and rigged markets? Or socialization of risks with privatization of profits?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4329 on: July 29, 2025, 08:11:19 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 29, 2025, 08:05:49 PM
Maybe they don't care much for crony capitalism, monopolies, and rigged markets? Or socialization of risks with privatization of profits?

Ot they just hate America and want it to be Commie Lite. Go to Europe if you want Commie Lite.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4330 on: July 29, 2025, 08:15:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 29, 2025, 08:11:19 PM
Ot they just hate America and want it to be Commie Lite. Go to Europe if you want Commie Lite.

If you don't want fairer and better healthcare, education, transportation, and public safety; then what's the point of being a Democrat?

Honest question.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4331 on: July 29, 2025, 08:28:53 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 29, 2025, 08:15:46 PM
If you don't want fairer and better healthcare, education, transportation, and public safety; then what's the point of being a Democrat?

Honest question.

What does that have to do with preventing people from having the opportunity to reach their potential  and innovate instead of everyone being mired in whatever they are mired in over there. You want no innovation or chance to do what you want? Move there and leave America to those escaping that crap.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4332 on: July 29, 2025, 08:50:51 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 29, 2025, 08:28:53 PM
What does that have to do with preventing people from having the opportunity to reach their potential  and innovate instead of everyone being mired in whatever they are mired in over there. You want no innovation or chance to do what you want? Move there and leave America to those escaping that crap.

You think having better and fairer education, transportation, public safety, and and healthcare would prevent people from reaching their potential?

People aren't leaving Social Democracies to come here, but you knew that.

We have central planning. By a handful of corporate monos in their private interests.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4333 on: July 29, 2025, 08:56:49 PM »
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4334 on: July 29, 2025, 09:09:37 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 29, 2025, 08:50:51 PM
You think having better and fairer education, transportation, public safety, and and healthcare would prevent people from reaching their potential?

People aren't leaving Social Democracies to come here, but you knew that.

We have central planning. By a handful of corporate monos in their private interests.

Western Europe is, and has been, stagnant for decades.
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