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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #105 on: June 14, 2023, 11:45:17 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2023, 11:43:10 AM
It does not matter if he meant it.  He said some openly racist shit, and your lecturing was exclusively pointed at the people who called it racist.  As I've said multiple times, that's an AMAZING strategy if the goal is to make it more acceptable to say openly racist shit.  If that's your goal, you're doing great.  You claim your goal is the opposite of that though.

Saying racist shit and then saying "IM JOKING" afterwards is not a good joke, and we shouldn't pretend it is.

Look, you called Tempo stupid.  Fuckin' hypocrites man.

Yes, it does matter. He was trying to, and succeeded, in getting a rise out of you. I was not going to give him the satisfaction. Ignore him and he won't do it.

Tempo does act stupid around here quite a bit.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #106 on: June 14, 2023, 11:45:33 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 14, 2023, 11:45:07 AM
I can see the red mark on PAMan’s ass from here.

LOL.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #107 on: June 14, 2023, 11:46:07 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 14, 2023, 11:42:34 AM
Well, you did lose one election and appear to want to lose another.

“No strawmen allowed!”

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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #108 on: June 14, 2023, 11:47:47 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 14, 2023, 11:45:17 AM
Yes, it does matter. He was trying to, and succeeded, in getting a rise out of you. I was not going to give him the satisfaction. Ignore him and he won't do it.

Tempo does act stupid around here quite a bit.

Fucking hypocrite.  Not gonna win hearts and minds that way!

And no, it does not matter.  In case you've missed it, the Republican party has made LOTS of in roads using this exact <say some heinous racist shit and then attack the people who point that out for taking you seriously> strategy.  We are headed down that path, and will continue down that path as long as "lol i was just trolling you when i said the openly racist shit!" is acceptable, defensible behavior.

Like, imagine being a descendant of a person who was owned as property, seeing someone say "you owe white people money because your ancestors were enslaved", and then having 100% of the outrage about that statement dedicated to the people who said "yo that's racist and fucked up".  Are you capable of that sort of empathy?  At some point "I'm joking snowflake" is not a good defense for saying openly racist shit.

If that's what you want, well, great work I guess.  I'm more interested in a society where saying openly racist shit isn't okay even if later you say "lol i was trolling u!"

Would you really change your views if I'd simply said "lol ur so easy to troll" after you started lecturing me about calling someone who says openly bigoted stuff a bigot?  Ignoring that, again, this is equating being a bigot with calling out bigotry as wrong.

As for 'getting a rise out of me', literally my only reaction was "that was a very stupid post".  You've said the same thing about Tempo multiple times today.  Custard said the same thing about Tempo and you didn't say shit to him.  It's pretty clear in interacting with you that you prefer a place where open bigotry is fine as long as later you say "lol im trolling".  I do not prefer a place like that.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #109 on: June 14, 2023, 12:00:09 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2023, 11:47:47 AM
Fucking hypocrite.  Not gonna win hearts and minds that way!

And no, it does not matter.  In case you've missed it, the Republican party has made LOTS of in roads using this exact <say some heinous racist shit and then attack the people who point that out> strategy.  We are headed down that path, and will continue down that path as long as "lol i was just trolling you when i said the openly racist shit!" is acceptable, defensible behavior.

Like, imagine being a descendant of a person who was owned as property, seeing someone say "you owe white people money because your ancestors were enslaved", and then having 100% of the outrage about that statement dedicated to the people who said "yo that's racist and fucked up".  Are you capable of that sort of empathy?  At some point "I'm joking snowflake" is not a good defense for saying openly racist shit.

If that's what you want, well, great work I guess.  I'm more interested in a society where saying openly racist shit isn't okay even if later you say "lol i was trolling u!"

I have given up on Tempo stopping with the strawman arguments. It is who he is and who has has been for decades. That is part of the reason he has been mocked for years on other boards.  Meanwhile, for example, JudgeJudy and bathrooms is a far more serious issue. I may be wrong, but I think it is worth trying to change his mind. It seems like a lot of time here is spent arguing against strawmen arguments (including yours lately).

Actually, I want to know who the racists are, because they are never going away, so I do believe in the First Amendment and "free speech" even where the First Amendment does not apply. It is truly one of the more redeeming qualities of this Cesspool. While I know 97 has some "dark" views, I did not believe that post was in earnest.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #110 on: June 14, 2023, 12:03:58 PM »
You do the stupid strawman thing at least as often as Tempo.  And 95+% of your posts these days are just troll nonsense.  Can't remember the last time you really substantively discussed an issue beyond lecturing a liberal for pointing out bigotry.

It's funny you mention 'free speech' - I've never said that the post should be deleted, the poster should be banned, etc.  I spoke out against it as racist and/or bigoted.  You, despite being such a clear supporter of free speech on this board, have taken great issue with me calling those things out 3 times this week.  If ILLove wants to be a bigot and then do the "lol i was trolling!" thing like a middle schooler, that's fine.  The people who believe open racism is wrong will speak out against it, and the people who don't will defend it.

Free speech, as long as you don't point out when someone says something abhorrent. 
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #111 on: June 14, 2023, 12:19:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 14, 2023, 11:06:17 AM
Are you referring to biological men competing against women in sports? Because that’s the only place I’d entertain the idea. But yeah, weird post. Congrats.

So only on YOUR terms… got it!
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #112 on: June 14, 2023, 12:25:39 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2023, 12:03:58 PM
You do the stupid strawman thing at least as often as Tempo.

It's funny you mention 'free speech' - I've never said that the post should be deleted, the poster should be banned, etc.  I spoke out against it as racist and/or bigoted.  You, despite being such a clear supporter of free speech on this board, have taken great issue with me calling those things out 3 times this week.  If ILLove wants to be a bigot and then do the "lol i was trolling!" thing like a middle schooler, that's fine.  The people who believe open racism is wrong will speak out against it, and the people who don't will defend it.

Free speech, as long as you don't point out when someone says something abhorrent.

Did say you wanted Dom banned?

Again, my point to you was not to "point[] out when someone says something abhorrent" but questioning "how" you point it out.

I still want to know who the idiot racists are, personally. I do not want them to hidden behind "polite society." I know that this view is not en vogue at this point.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #113 on: June 14, 2023, 12:26:06 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 14, 2023, 12:19:18 PM
So only on YOUR terms… got it!

Yep.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #114 on: June 14, 2023, 12:35:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 14, 2023, 12:25:39 PM
Did say you wanted Dom banned?

Again, my point to you was not to "point[] out when someone says something abhorrent" but questioning "how" you point it out.

I still want to know who the idiot racists are, personally. I do not want them to hidden behind "polite society." I know that this view is not en vogue at this point.

Only because he lost the bet and has a long history of welching on the consequences.  I certainly never wanted him banned for something he said here.  I even offered him two separate chances out of the bet when it was pretty damn clear he'd lost.

Want to know a secret about 'knowing who the idiot racists are'?  If one of those shows their ass and you spend 100% of the time after lecturing the people who pointed it out instead of the person being an idiot racist, people will assume you are one too - and they won't be totally crazy to assume that.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #115 on: June 14, 2023, 12:44:51 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2023, 12:35:53 PM
Only because he lost the bet and has a long history of welching on the consequences.  I certainly never wanted him banned for something he said here.  I even offered him two separate chances out of the bet when it was pretty damn clear he'd lost.

Want to know a secret about 'knowing who the idiot racists are'?  If one of those shows their ass and you spend 100% of the time after lecturing the people who pointed it out instead of the person being an idiot racist, people will assume you are one too - and they won't be totally crazy to assume that.

Oh brother. It is good to see you have stopped calling people "stupid" at least. But now you just call everyone a racist. Congrats on your moral superiority over everyone here that does not join you in responding to 97's trolling.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #116 on: June 14, 2023, 12:47:26 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 14, 2023, 12:44:51 PM
Oh brother. It is good to see you have stopped calling people "stupid" at least. But now you just call everyone a racist. Congrats on your moral superiority over everyone here that does not join you in responding to 97's trolling.

I've never called someone who didn't say or defend openly racist shit a racist ever in my life.  Something to consider.

Tempo's right, it's very Trumpian.  The real racists are the people who call the folks saying racist shit 'racist'.  Don't listen to the words he says, just take the 'meaning' of the word and assume he doesn't actually mean the stuff he says all the time.  Both strategies employed often by Trumpists.
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Re: Rate yourself politically!
« Reply #117 on: June 14, 2023, 12:49:23 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2023, 12:47:26 PM
I've never called someone who didn't say or defend openly racist shit a racist ever in my life.  Something to consider.

Considering how sheltered you appear to be, that does not say much. But I applaud your artistry. You are diligent in your craft. It is underappreciated by the 10 people here.
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« Reply #118 on: June 14, 2023, 12:52:14 PM »
Hahaha, yeah, really sheltered.  Really top notch stuff.
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« Reply #119 on: June 14, 2023, 12:58:52 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2023, 12:52:14 PM
Hahaha, yeah, really sheltered.  Really top notch stuff.

You cannot say that you are not. I dread opening up this can of worms, but your comments about/reaction to Jobu's fake death. C'mon, dude. Just own it.
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