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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1500 on: December 10, 2023, 06:11:26 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 05:54:07 PM
It’s hilarious that you guys think I’m serious about Stroud. My trolling skills must be elite. Unlike Justin Fields’ quarterbacking skills.

Of course we think you’re serious because you have said dumber shit and been completely serious! Duh!
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« Reply #1501 on: December 10, 2023, 06:12:38 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 06:11:24 PM
FFS. I’ve said 15x in the last few days the case to move on from Fields is a justifiable one. I’ve said multiple times he needs to do more to help himself. “Tempo, stop misrepresenting what I say!” Blah blah blah blah

You literally cannot even bring yourself to SAY that Justin Fields had a bad game, ever, even in a game where it was clear as day.  You are willing to say that "everyone with a C on their helmet" is to blame for Fields' own personal play.  Literally will not even say that he deserves blame for his own play.

Like, I want to move on from Fields but I don't have any problem acknowledging that he played great in weeks 4 and 5 this year.  But you cannot even acknowledge that he played poorly in week 3.  it totally undercuts your point that you're unwilling to even be honest about his play if its not good.

It's insane.  JeffFrank shit.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1502 on: December 10, 2023, 06:13:19 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 10, 2023, 06:11:26 PM
Of course we think you’re serious because you have said dumber shit and been completely serious! Duh!

Says the guy who says Tyson Bagent is better than Justin Fields.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1503 on: December 10, 2023, 06:14:39 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 10, 2023, 06:12:38 PM
You literally cannot even bring yourself to SAY that Justin Fields had a bad game, ever, even in a game where it was clear as day.  You are willing to say that "everyone with a C on their helmet" is to blame for Fields' own personal play.  Literally will not even say that he deserves blame for his own play.

It's insane.  JeffFrank shit.

He had a bad game. A LOT of Bears had a bad game that day. The score was 41-10 and over by halftime. What do you want me to say, Fields cost them them game? Ok, I’ll say it, Fields cost them the game!
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« Reply #1504 on: December 10, 2023, 06:16:16 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 06:13:19 PM
Says the guy who says Tyson Bagent is better than Justin Fields.

Tempo gonna Tempo. Then wonder why you catch so much grief regarding Fields and your takes. You’re once again being intellectually dishonest and exaggerating. I’m glad others can see it as well.
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« Reply #1505 on: December 10, 2023, 06:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 06:14:39 PM
He had a bad game. A LOT of Bears had a bad game that day. The score was 41-10 and over by halftime. What do you want me to say, Fields cost them them game? Ok, I’ll say it, Fields cost them the game!

I literally asked if he deserved blame for his own personal play in the Chiefs game and you said no, dude.  You said flat out: it was everyone's fault that Fields, personally, played badly.

Nobody said shit about costing them the game, that's just another in the mile-long list of strawmen.
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« Reply #1506 on: December 10, 2023, 06:17:37 PM »
Do you think the Bears being, in your mind, around 25th in the league in talent is a good excuse for Luke Getsy's performance?

It's hard to be an offensive coordinator without good talent, right?
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« Reply #1507 on: December 10, 2023, 06:18:22 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 10, 2023, 06:17:37 PM
Do you think the Bears being, in your mind, around 25th in the league in talent is a good excuse for Luke Getsy's performance?

It's hard to be an offensive coordinator without good talent, right?

Now now now, that’s not fair!!!
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« Reply #1508 on: December 10, 2023, 06:21:56 PM »
Imagine your reaction for a second.  It's late 2010.  You ask Jeff Frank: does Bruce Weber deserve any blame for his own, personal performance the last five years?

He says, no: Eric Gordon fucked him over, and Jamar Smith and Brian Carlwell were lost to the car accident, and Alex Legion didn't work out, and Jereme Richmond was a headcase, and everyone else is cheating to get recruits, and Derrick Rose strung him along, and the refs fucked him in the Washington game.  Everyone in the Illini jersey deserves the blame for Weber's personal performance.

How do you react?  Do you say, well yeah I understand, that's justifiable?
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1509 on: December 10, 2023, 06:24:28 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 10, 2023, 06:16:16 PM
Tempo gonna Tempo. Then wonder why you catch so much grief regarding Fields and your takes. You’re once again being intellectually dishonest and exaggerating. I’m glad others can see it as well.

The offense was clearly better under Bagent. Why can’t you see that?!
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1510 on: December 10, 2023, 06:25:12 PM »
Did Fields build his own team?
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« Reply #1511 on: December 10, 2023, 06:26:33 PM »
Now that I know Fields is GM I really am pissed.
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« Reply #1512 on: December 10, 2023, 06:27:13 PM »
What the fuck are the Bills doing?! Run the ball!
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1513 on: December 10, 2023, 06:29:02 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 10, 2023, 06:27:13 PM
What the fuck are the Bills doing?! Run the ball!

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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1514 on: December 10, 2023, 06:30:23 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 06:25:12 PM
Did Fields build his own team?

No, nor is he being held to that standard.  That's why I asked about his own, personal play - you said no, he does not deserve the blame for that.  Even when only asking about his OWN play, he does not deserve blame.  I've made it a point not to discuss his W/L record that much, because that isn't something that falls on his shoulders specifically - I thought HIS OWN PLAY probably did, but apparently not.

He definitely deserves the credit when he personally plays well, but when he personally plays badly that isn't his fault.

It's crazy.  Very Jeff Frank-esque.
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