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Illinois be ASU

ASU is an equal program to Illinois
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Illinois provides a competitive advantage
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Voting closed: April 26, 2023, 11:18:32 AM

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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #285 on: April 21, 2023, 11:36:19 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 11:20:44 AM
Pick a lane, Sally.

I think I did, the Tempo Strawman thread lane.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #286 on: April 21, 2023, 11:37:25 AM »
Spark, here is my point. You can deflect with the “but the numbers and data say this” defense all you want. But this is similar to the Nagy/Belichick argument we had. “At this point in their careers, blah blah blah.” Technically, yes you were “right.” But I mocked you for that stuff because clearly one was better than the other. And it was ridiculous to compare them in any way. Despite what the precious data said. And again, I never ever once said you said Trubisky was “better,” or even as good. But clearly you were trying to prop up Trubisky at the time. That’s fine. But to do it using Mahomes as your counter example was absurd, even at the time, with supporting data.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #287 on: April 21, 2023, 11:39:41 AM »
And again. You’re the data guy. But refuse to accept the data that says over the last 40+ years Illinois is a superior program over a large handful of coaches. ASU and Illinois have not been on level playing fields, just as Illinois and Kentucky are not on level playing fields. Now, could you convince me that the gap has closed somewhat? Yes. You could.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #288 on: April 21, 2023, 11:46:50 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 11:37:25 AM
Spark, here is my point. You can deflect with the “but the numbers and data say this” defense all you want. But this is similar to the Nagy/Belichick argument we had. “At this point in their careers, blah blah blah.” Technically, yes you were “right.” But I mocked you for that stuff because clearly one was better than the other. And it was ridiculous to compare them in any way. Despite what the precious data said. And again, I never ever once said you said Trubisky was “better,” or even as good. But clearly you were trying to prop up Trubisky at the time. That’s fine. But to do it using Mahomes as your counter example was absurd, even at the time, with supporting data.

Now if you want to explain to me what you think I’m misrepresenting here. I will listen. I just don’t believe I’ve misrepresented what happened. In the least.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #289 on: April 21, 2023, 11:49:46 AM »
I’m gonna guess DeliciousPussy definitely had a vote.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #290 on: April 21, 2023, 11:57:17 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 21, 2023, 11:36:19 AM
I think I did, the Tempo Strawman thread lane.

You mean the piss poor PAMan attempt at trolling lane? Seems like a lane you’re comfortable in.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #291 on: April 21, 2023, 11:58:39 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 11:57:17 AM
You mean the piss poor PAMan attempt at trolling lane? Seems like a lane you’re comfortable in.

Just laying out the facts.

You are habitual strawman contractor.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #292 on: April 21, 2023, 11:59:58 AM »
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz…
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #293 on: April 21, 2023, 12:45:31 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 11:21:35 AM
What “quotes” did I make up? Let’s get specific please. Then I can go from there.

Every quote in the post I replied to.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #294 on: April 21, 2023, 12:46:29 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 21, 2023, 12:45:31 PM
Every quote in the post I replied to.

That is called a "Classic Tempo Post."
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #295 on: April 21, 2023, 12:47:03 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 21, 2023, 12:45:31 PM
Every quote in the post I replied to.

Ok…
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #296 on: April 21, 2023, 12:48:16 PM »
10 votes in a row out of nowhere to ASU! I guess there really is a Santa Claus, Virginia!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #297 on: April 21, 2023, 12:48:40 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 11:37:25 AM
Spark, here is my point. You can deflect with the “but the numbers and data say this” defense all you want. But this is similar to the Nagy/Belichick argument we had. “At this point in their careers, blah blah blah.” Technically, yes you were “right.” But I mocked you for that stuff because clearly one was better than the other. And it was ridiculous to compare them in any way. Despite what the precious data said. And again, I never ever once said you said Trubisky was “better,” or even as good. But clearly you were trying to prop up Trubisky at the time. That’s fine. But to do it using Mahomes as your counter example was absurd, even at the time, with supporting data.

You simply didn’t understand my point - the only point I was ever making - about how silly it is to judge a QB, good or bad, by his first 15-20 games.

I’m curious - if you were me, how many years would you continue repeating the same obvious, simple point hoping maybe THIS TIME the other guy will get it?  I’m on year 6.  I think I’m pretty much done trying to explain a simple point to you.

I would definitely appreciate if you’d quit lying about things I didn’t say to try to win an argument, but if you won’t I’m happy to make up all sorts of bullshit about you and pass it off as fact.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #298 on: April 21, 2023, 12:49:09 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 12:47:03 PM
Ok…

Quoting someone, but putting a thing in quotes that they didn’t say, is lying.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #299 on: April 21, 2023, 12:49:43 PM »
Again. What was the specific “lie?” Use a specific example, please.
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