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Illinois be ASU

ASU is an equal program to Illinois
11 (68.8%)
Illinois provides a competitive advantage
5 (31.3%)

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Voting closed: April 26, 2023, 11:18:32 AM

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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #270 on: April 20, 2023, 04:27:06 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 20, 2023, 04:08:22 PM
As shown by the 50/50 TD to INT rates and 50% completion rates of the era, they were doing it quite literally.

You mean in an era where you could basically clock the receiver at any point?

Isn't his TD% still up there?
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #271 on: April 20, 2023, 04:48:51 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 20, 2023, 03:55:07 PM
Jaylon Johnson is the only current Bear would have started on the ‘06 defense.

Are you a fan of the Bears or a fan of the QB?  Most fans don’t care who the QB is as long as the team is winning. Likewise,most fans want to get rid of the QB if he is losing

Justin Fields could put up Kyler Murray stats, and he’d be a failure if the Bears are as bad as the Cardinals
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #272 on: April 20, 2023, 04:52:18 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 20, 2023, 04:48:51 PM
Are you a fan of the Bears or a fan of the QB?  Most fans don’t care who the QB is as long as the team is winning. Likewise,most fans want to get rid of the QB if he is losing

Justin Fields could put up Kyler Murray stats, and he’d be a failure if the Bears are as bad as the Cardinals

Judging Fields by his rookie year under the final year of the Pace/Nagy era, and his 2nd year where they literally made the team bad on purpose seems a bit premature. Let’s see what they do the next couple of seasons.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #273 on: April 21, 2023, 10:49:27 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 20, 2023, 03:04:50 PM
Can you please explain to me how I’m “lying?”

Here’s what happened. You made that case that Trubisky “is more or less on par with Mahomes” (even if through just 5 games). I said: “stop with that nonsense, Mahomes is clearly better!” You said:”Not according to the statistics.” I said: “I don’t give a damn what the statistics say, Mahomes is way better.”

Contrary to your accusation, I never once said you said that Trubisky was better than Mahomes. I merely pointed out that comparing the two in any way was dumb, and you took exception to it. That’s why we argued about it.

You're lying by making up multiple quotes and attributing them to me.  You're doing it again in this post.

I mentioned earlier, I can do it too.

You said "Reggie Theus is the only acceptable replacement for Weber," and we said "I think he'd be kind of mediocre" and you said "No, he's the only guy who can lead us to success."

You said that in exactly the same way I said Trubisky and Mahomes were comparable outside of the specific 5 week stretch we were discussing: you didn't.  And yet, you've held me to that quote you made up for 6 years.  You ignored the ACTUAL point that you know I was making, because I've explained it to you clearly about three dozen times, and tried to "gotcha" me using made up quotes that I didn't say.  That's lying.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #274 on: April 21, 2023, 10:54:07 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 20, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
Who are the two morons who voted that ASU and Illinois are equal programs? Show your hands.

I assume they're mocking you for making an idiotic strawman poll trying to make your point seem reasonable by lying about what you're arguing about.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #275 on: April 21, 2023, 10:54:28 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 20, 2023, 04:52:18 PM
Judging Fields by his rookie year under the final year of the Pace/Nagy era, and his 2nd year where they literally made the team bad on purpose seems a bit premature. Let’s see what they do the next couple of seasons.

Oh, is the sample size too small to make a judgment?

Weird.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #276 on: April 21, 2023, 11:08:05 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 21, 2023, 10:54:07 AM
I assume they're mocking you for making an idiotic strawman poll trying to make your point seem reasonable by lying about what you're arguing about.

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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #277 on: April 21, 2023, 11:11:00 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 21, 2023, 10:54:28 AM
Oh, is the sample size too small to make a judgment?

Weird.

LOL
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #278 on: April 21, 2023, 11:11:37 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 21, 2023, 10:49:27 AM
You're lying by making up multiple quotes and attributing them to me.  You're doing it again in this post.

I mentioned earlier, I can do it too.

You said "Reggie Theus is the only acceptable replacement for Weber," and we said "I think he'd be kind of mediocre" and you said "No, he's the only guy who can lead us to success."

You said that in exactly the same way I said Trubisky and Mahomes were comparable outside of the specific 5 week stretch we were discussing: you didn't.  And yet, you've held me to that quote you made up for 6 years.  You ignored the ACTUAL point that you know I was making, because I've explained it to you clearly about three dozen times, and tried to "gotcha" me using made up quotes that I didn't say.  That's lying.

Would be a perfect candidate for the Tempo McStrawman Thread.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #279 on: April 21, 2023, 11:20:44 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 21, 2023, 11:11:37 AM
Would be a perfect candidate for the Tempo McStrawman Thread.

Pick a lane, Sally.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #280 on: April 21, 2023, 11:21:35 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 21, 2023, 10:49:27 AM
You're lying by making up multiple quotes and attributing them to me.  You're doing it again in this post.

I mentioned earlier, I can do it too.

You said "Reggie Theus is the only acceptable replacement for Weber," and we said "I think he'd be kind of mediocre" and you said "No, he's the only guy who can lead us to success."

You said that in exactly the same way I said Trubisky and Mahomes were comparable outside of the specific 5 week stretch we were discussing: you didn't.  And yet, you've held me to that quote you made up for 6 years.  You ignored the ACTUAL point that you know I was making, because I've explained it to you clearly about three dozen times, and tried to "gotcha" me using made up quotes that I didn't say.  That's lying.

What “quotes” did I make up? Let’s get specific please. Then I can go from there.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #281 on: April 21, 2023, 11:22:15 AM »
I have explained the Trubisky/Mahomes argument exactly as it happened. Exactly.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #282 on: April 21, 2023, 11:23:30 AM »
Nice. Looks like the mult vote just counted. Trump would love the result.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #283 on: April 21, 2023, 11:26:35 AM »
The “point” you made was that Trubisky was more or less on par with Mahomes through 5 weeks. I told you that was laughable because one guy was clearly better than the other regardless of what your numbers said. You took issue with it and said “but this is what the numbers say.” That is EXACTLY the way it went down.
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Re: Show of hands
« Reply #284 on: April 21, 2023, 11:35:35 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 21, 2023, 11:23:30 AM
Nice. Looks like the mult vote just counted. Trump would love the result.

Wait, you had your mults vote against you? Nice move to try and throw everyone off.
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