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2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD

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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #75 on: March 31, 2023, 11:18:42 AM »
Welcome back, LKdog.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2023, 11:23:32 AM »
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2023, 11:33:29 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2023, 11:05:43 AM
This program needs a shooting coach.

Not sure I can think of any player we have had since Underwood has been here who became a noticeably better shooter.
DaMonte had one year aberration then reverted to his norm.
Kofi never got better. Ayo never developed a threeball.
Trent never really improved. Grandison fell apart last year.
Melendez fell apart.


I mean Harris and Rodgers can go to the gym and take 500 shots a day until November, but if it is the same shit form you will get the same result.
They both need to be broken down from scratch.

The other chronic issue this program has is not bringing in legit point guards. A combo guard in HS rarely translates to a D1 level PG.
Ayo was phenomenal college off guard. Not a point guard. Trent was warrior and great off guard. Not a point guard.

Nowell is a point guard. He was in the fcking Sun Belt for three years. These are the type of guys we play in pre season who give us a new asshole and a scare every year, but we are too focused on wings (as noted by others) who can do a lot of things, but nothing really well.

hi LK!

to be fair, the kids have to put in the work

haven't heard any stories of kids shooting 1000 a day or anything like that (other than Podz), they are mostly chillin and playing video games, which I'm sure is what most college kids do but still

and to be fair I'm not really looking for stories like this so I'm sure they exist, but the results on the court have certainly been sporadic, which is common with young players and quick rental transfers I guess
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2023, 11:39:05 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2023, 11:05:43 AM
This program needs a shooting coach.

Like when to not throw up bricks ? lol.
My suggestion was offensive and defensive coordinators, and there's probably no reason why an OC can't be a shooting coach also.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2023, 11:41:09 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 31, 2023, 11:33:29 AM
hi LK!

to be fair, the kids have to put in the work

haven't heard any stories of kids shooting 1000 a day or anything like that (other than Podz), they are mostly chillin and playing video games, which I'm sure is what most college kids do but still

and to be fair I'm not really looking for stories like this so I'm sure they exist, but the results on the court have certainly been sporadic, which is common with young players and quick rental transfers I guess


Yeah, putting in the work is huge part, for sure. Putting in the right kind of work is just as important.
I feel like this staff just has the janitor open up the gym and leaves them to their own devices.
These top 150 kids come in these days with really big holes in their game and need a lot of work.

Losing Podz was a big fail for this staff. Say what one wishes about the West Coast Conference- the kid could shoot and has size and is apparently legit on NBA radar.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2023, 11:47:39 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2023, 11:05:43 AM
This program needs a shooting coach.


I thought the term they used for this guy was “coach.”
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2023, 11:48:05 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 31, 2023, 11:39:05 AM
Like when to not throw up bricks ? lol.
My suggestion was offensive and defensive coordinators, and there's probably no reason why an OC can't be a shooting coach also.

Agree, shot selection was abysmal.

As for defensive whiz and toughness coach-  I thought Chet was supposed to be that guy.
Not seeing it. I think his job has been to counsel kids in huddle after Matt Foley meltdowns so they do not fall apart or leave.
That isn't happening so well either.


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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2023, 11:51:53 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 31, 2023, 11:47:39 AM
I thought the term they used for this guy was “coach.”

LOL.
The reality that Underwood is 7th highest paid coach in all of college BB is mind boggling.
He is now 0-7 in getting out of first weekend of tourney.

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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2023, 11:55:01 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2023, 11:51:53 AM
LOL.
The reality that Underwood is 7th highest paid coach in all of college BB is mind boggling.
He is now 0-7 in getting out of first weekend of tourney.

well it costs a lot of money to clean up a toxic waste spill
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #84 on: March 31, 2023, 11:55:05 AM »
As for 2023-24 we will likely end up with OK roster via portal after all is said and done by end of Spring as we have pretty much all five starting spots up for grabs, but we are starting over really.
A lot of work to do.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2023, 12:03:57 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2023, 01:14:44 AM
The team moving forward needs proven scorers. Period. Two or ideally three of them who were 10+ ppg relied upon scoring options on their teams - not 4th options.

If TJS does not return we will not have anything resembling a go to guy. We will need to hit the portal hard for at least two and hopefully three decent proven scorers. (post/wing/PG).
 
Even if Hawkins returns he is not a consistent scorer. He really is kind of just a guy after three years who occasionally makes an athletic play.
Have no idea why any NBA team would want him on anything but a two way at best to take a look at for a year as a flyer. My advice to him is to learn Spanish and make a few bucks overseas and get a fcking jumpshot.
He can't shoot at all, he really can't guard his space one on one as he is not very strong, he is average rebounder, and he amazingly can't reliably get his own shot even though he is 6'10".

As noted we need a PG, but it needs to be a scoring point guard.
We need three point shooting badly.
Only guy coming back who can shoot the three is Goode and I am not sure he can do enough other stuff.

I could care less about RJ. Looks like a head case. He needs to start over somewhere else.

Harris and Rodgers are really just rotation guys on a good team. Not starters. Maybe as juniors or seniors. I like the effort and energy and physical ability, but they are unbelievably bad jump shooters and shoot free throws like shitty 4th graders.

Dainja is usable, had a decent first year, but we need another post guy. This poorly executed drop coverage bullshit we have been doing for years is embarrassing.

We will have some role guy talent coming back, a couple interesting freshmen, but none of it (except for Shannon if he returns) are proven scorers.
Shannon actually is a possible NBA prospect physically and athletically and skill wise and my hunch is with decent workouts he gets feedback that he can go second round and could make a roster.

Lets assume he does not return.

Hit the portal for guys who can score the fcking ball.

When you look at these teams who went deep, the only guys we had that would even play on these teams were TJS who really is a pretty damn good player, and then Hawkins as just long athletic support guy.

We were not good this year, they didn't like each other, and Underwood and staff are below average game and development coaches.
They did about as well as we could have hoped.
They were a Top 35-40 team and that is what we got.

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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #86 on: March 31, 2023, 02:07:07 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2023, 11:51:53 AM

He is now 0-7 in getting out of first weekend of tourney.

Oh wow, yikes. Hadn’t thought of it that way. Yikes. And that includes the program he was stripped of wins at.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #87 on: March 31, 2023, 02:31:51 PM »
Hunter Dickinson just entered the portal lol.

Would be hilarious if we grabbed him.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #88 on: March 31, 2023, 03:08:15 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on March 31, 2023, 02:31:51 PM
Hunter Dickinson just entered the portal lol.

Would be hilarious if we grabbed him.

😂
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2023, 03:40:03 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 31, 2023, 02:07:07 PM
Oh wow, yikes. Hadn’t thought of it that way. Yikes. And that includes the program he was stripped of wins at.

Where he was playing as low seeds from a low-major and got upsets.

Criticize him for not making the S16 at Illinois, but criticizing for "only" getting one upset (twice) is pretty silly.  SFA has two tournament wins, total - both Underwood.
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