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2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #540 on: May 18, 2023, 07:05:40 AM »
For an NFL charter team that set a franchise record for consecutive losses, I'm not sure that I expected the 'Belichek talked to Eberflus post-game' argument and a continuation of 'ESB dropped the perfectly thrown spiral costing the Bears a victory because everyone knows he would have ended up in the end zone but they couldn't win anyway because they have no talent and it's part of the tanking process' arguments. In May.

Lol talk about piss poor reading comprehension and logic skills
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #541 on: May 18, 2023, 08:18:11 AM »
Lol talk about piss poor reading comprehension and logic skills
It is May.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #542 on: May 18, 2023, 09:04:27 AM »
Lol
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #543 on: May 18, 2023, 09:41:09 AM »
For an NFL charter team that set a franchise record for consecutive losses, I'm not sure that I expected the 'Belichek talked to Eberflus post-game' argument and a continuation of 'ESB dropped the perfectly thrown spiral costing the Bears a victory because everyone knows he would have ended up in the end zone but they couldn't win anyway because they have no talent and it's part of the tanking process' arguments. In May.

There’s about 6 ways in which you’re being obtuse or flat out wrong here.

1) “NFL charter franchise record losing streak” is a strawman. For several of reasons. One, they’ve had a couple of worse or just as bad seasons. They also played more games which allowed them to set the record for losses. They also weren’t prioritizing winning (for the 30th time). Are you really going to fault Poles for trying to clean up the mess left behind by Ryan Pace? Could you not see that he was tearing the whole thing down on purpose? I could spend 5 minutes on this first strawman alone.

2) I merely pointed out that Belichick was clearly impressed by what Ebeflus is doing. Why? Because Belichick is smart enough to know that Eberflus didn’t beat him with the better/more talented team. The fact that Belichick took time to speak to Eberflus after getting his ass kicked by him was a clear sign of respect. It guarantees nothing. Just shows that some smart football people like what they see. And of course, you ran hook, line, and sinker with PAMan’s unclever bit.

3) The ESB drop isn’t the one alluded to here. It was Mooney’s bobble at the goal line. PAMan said “if JFC were a little better at quarterback perhaps they could have eeked out a win against the Commanders.” Well I showed him a video that proves the opportunity for a win was there and it wasn’t botched by Fields. Also, no one is saying the Bears win the (other) game if ESB makes his catch, but it was 4th down and did end any chance the Bears had of winning that game. So clearly Fields wasn’t to blame for everything that went wrong as you guys like to claim.

4) Again, for the slow-learners here. As evidenced by the lack of spending, trading away of best players, lack of draft resources, and lack of NFL quality depth and starters; “winning (with a rookie HC, OC, DC, and 2nd year QB) was not a realistic goal. They were competitive in most games. That was by and large a success given all that they were dealing with.

5) The Franchise is unquestionably better off having gone 3-14 and getting multiple high value draft picks and a legitimate #1 WR rather than having gone a meaningless 7-10 and merely getting the 13th pick to show for it. Only a legitimate moron would argue differently. Purging the roster of bad contracts and saving that coin for years 2 and 3 was unquestionably the right move. Just because there are guys out there with the letter C on their helmet doesn’t mean they can realistically be expected to “win.” Ryan Poles and Matt Nagy were fired for a reason. They lost too much and their roster largely stunk. That can’t be fixed in one off season. Especially when the organization is cash strapped and draft capital deficient. I could easily go on, but should i need to?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #544 on: May 18, 2023, 09:46:49 AM »
6) And I don’t know what the fuck “it’s only May” even means…
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #545 on: May 18, 2023, 09:55:20 AM »
You’re being trolled, Tempo. You’re the one falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason it seems insane what they’re saying is because it’s an act. Yes Poles has done the right thing and I agree with just about every point you’ve made above. What were you taught in kindergarten… if you ignore them they’ll go away lol. I’ve agreed with almost everything you’ve said, but I don’t wanna do THIS everyday into MAY, so I just say my peace and dip out. It’s not THAT important to repeat the same thing repeatedly 3-5 months AFTER the season is over. You’re being trolled and apparently it’s working or you’re just not being smart enough to realize it.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #546 on: May 18, 2023, 10:03:39 AM »
You’re being trolled, Tempo. You’re the one falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason it seems insane what they’re saying is because it’s an act. Yes Poles has done the right thing and I agree with just about every point you’ve made above. What were you taught in kindergarten… if you ignore them they’ll go away lol. I’ve agreed with almost everything you’ve said, but I don’t wanna do THIS everyday into MAY, so I just say my peace and dip out. It’s not THAT important to repeat the same thing repeatedly 3-5 months AFTER the season is over. You’re being trolled and apparently it’s working or you’re just not being smart enough to realize it.
If only Hightower would have made the td catch vs the Hoosiers more obvious, DeVito would have gotten the win.
If only the wr hadn't leaped too early, he would have caught the td pass for the win. An All-American would have caught it.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #547 on: May 18, 2023, 10:04:11 AM »
You’re being trolled, Tempo. You’re the one falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason it seems insane what they’re saying is because it’s an act. Yes Poles has done the right thing and I agree with just about every point you’ve made above. What were you taught in kindergarten… if you ignore them they’ll go away lol. I’ve agreed with almost everything you’ve said, but I don’t wanna do THIS everyday into MAY, so I just say my peace and dip out. It’s not THAT important to repeat the same thing repeatedly 3-5 months AFTER the season is over. You’re being trolled and apparently it’s working or you’re just not being smart enough to realize it.

If they get off on it, it says more about them than it does me. PAMan definitely does some trolling (but due to his willingness to look idiotic, I think also believes much of what he says). I think Mn would legitimately rather have won 7 games last year and been drafting 13th.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #548 on: May 18, 2023, 10:06:22 AM »
If they get off on it, it says more about them than it does me. PAMan definitely does some trolling (but due to his willingness to look idiotic, I think also believes much of what he says). I think Mn would legitimately rather have won 7 games last year and been drafting 13th.

Mn? Would you care to address this? Would you rather?
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #549 on: May 18, 2023, 10:07:22 AM »
Mn? Would you care to address this? Would you rather?

He admitted it about two months back. He’d have rather beaten the Lions and been drafting lower.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #550 on: May 18, 2023, 10:07:58 AM »
If only Hightower would have made the td catch vs the Hoosiers more obvious, DeVito would have gotten the win.
If only the wr hadn't leaped too early, he would have caught the td pass for the win. An All-American would have caught it.
 :D

This is for your post, not the failed catch.

"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #551 on: May 18, 2023, 10:10:26 AM »
He admitted it about two months back. He’d have rather beaten the Lions and been drafting lower.

Mn? Was this legit opinion or were you just trolling?
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #552 on: May 18, 2023, 10:11:56 AM »
I believe I asked him straight up and it was a one word “yes,” IIRC. So he didn’t invest much into it if it was a troll job.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #553 on: May 18, 2023, 10:13:29 AM »
This is for your post, not the failed catch.


Yeah, I don't remember those arguments months after the season ended either.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #554 on: May 18, 2023, 10:31:32 AM »
I do not think it is in the competitive spirit to have a sports model that rewards losing as much as the NBA and NFL do. It makes for a bunch of shitty meaningless games, but people still fall all over themselves to watch them and obsess over them even in May, so why would they change anything?
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