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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #300 on: May 09, 2023, 03:57:01 PM »
The Bears didn’t pass on Carter because of lack of need or talent.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #301 on: May 09, 2023, 04:13:08 PM »
So I think viewing Carter through the Bears’ microscope is reasonably fair, but can also be a bit “hot takey.” It can be both.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #302 on: May 09, 2023, 04:16:04 PM »
Should the Panthers, Texans, and Colts really be viewed on Jalen Carter in the same light as the Bears? That’s absurd. Again, he was not Connor Bedard, nor was he ever. QBs were always the priority up top.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #303 on: May 09, 2023, 04:33:38 PM »
Is there anyone here who would rank RT above QB, Edge/DL, CB, (or even generational RB) in terms of value to an NFL team?
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #304 on: May 09, 2023, 04:37:56 PM »
But yeah, “everyone else passed on Jalen Carter, too” is indeed an “accurate” statement…
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #305 on: May 09, 2023, 04:55:24 PM »
Are you just arguing with yourself at this point, Tempo?
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #306 on: May 09, 2023, 05:02:12 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 09, 2023, 04:55:24 PM
Are you just arguing with yourself at this point, Tempo?

Sit down, ankle biter.

Who deserves more of the microscope? Pete Carrol for taking a CB worthy of being a top 5 pick? Or Ryan Poles who took a RT instead of the dynamic 3Tech his defense woefully needs 4 picks later?

It really makes me laugh that you guys accuse me of lacking an understanding of “nuance.”

That’s not to say that what Poles did was “wrong…”
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #307 on: May 09, 2023, 05:50:37 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 09, 2023, 04:55:24 PM
Are you just arguing with yourself at this point, Tempo?
Yep. But he was right several pages ago.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #308 on: May 09, 2023, 05:52:45 PM »
Oh look, Tempo’s misrepresenting my point again
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #309 on: May 09, 2023, 06:27:45 PM »
Lol
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #310 on: May 09, 2023, 06:28:26 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 05:52:45 PM
Oh look, Tempo’s misrepresenting my point again

What’s your point other than “everyone passed on the generational DT?”
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #311 on: May 09, 2023, 06:28:59 PM »
Quote from: Mn on May 09, 2023, 05:50:37 PM
Yep. But he was right several pages ago.

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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #312 on: May 09, 2023, 06:34:38 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:51:36 AM

ALL of those teams were not taking him regardless, including the Bears - obviously, since they all had the opportunity to take him and passed.  8 of them did it for free, one of them got a pick for it.

Again, nice of you to notice that teams seeking a quarterback, or opting to take what they viewed as the best player in the draft at a premium position with the possible of exceptions of Vegas and ATL who clearly had valid reasons for taking who they took. Poles was the first guy to take a non-premium position, while passing on clearly the best player left at a position of dire need. Again, that’s not to say he was “wrong.” 

So what was your point again? That other teams didn’t basically “trade Jalen Carter for a draft pick?”

You can’t understand why Carter to the Bears at 9 made more sense than Carter to Indy at 4? Is this really your position?
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #313 on: May 09, 2023, 06:37:49 PM »
You are (seemingly) arguing from a position that Carter was the overwhelming choice for best player. At 1, it was a debate. Especially pre-accident. At 9, he was far and away the best talent.
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Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
« Reply #314 on: May 09, 2023, 06:40:28 PM »
Early January, I’d venture to guess that 60-65% of mocks had Anderson as the #1 player. Probably 25% Carter, the rest Bryce Young.
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