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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #540 on: April 28, 2023, 08:51:33 AM »
Unfortunately we will never know exactly what discussions and options were on the table. If we assume the Bears were a 100% no on Carter (appears to be the case), and we assume the ONLY option was the 127th pick in next years draft (I guess we’re stuck assuming that). Ok. Good job, Bears.

Could they have flipped that pick for a Chase Young or a Mike Evans (with other compensation). I’m hoping they pursued avenues like that. We likely will never know.
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« Reply #541 on: April 28, 2023, 08:52:20 AM »
And again, don’t love that you helped the best team in the NFC get better, but I guess they were that adamant on their approach.
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« Reply #542 on: April 28, 2023, 08:56:10 AM »
Still give the Bears a passing grade on the Wright pick. Still love “the tank.”
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« Reply #543 on: April 28, 2023, 09:08:34 AM »
Stacey Dales talking draft on The Score. But how could we ever take a woman talking football seriously?
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #544 on: April 28, 2023, 09:17:32 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 08:51:33 AM
Unfortunately we will never know exactly what discussions and options were on the table. If we assume the Bears were a 100% no on Carter (appears to be the case), and we assume the ONLY option was the 127th pick in next years draft (I guess we’re stuck assuming that). Ok. Good job, Bears.

Could they have flipped that pick for a Chase Young or a Mike Evans (with other compensation). I’m hoping they pursued avenues like that. We likely will never know.

Remember, they had 7-8 minutes to get this done.

One of the two teams you suggested trading the pick to (the Falcons) had both already spent their first round pick and already passed on Carter the pick before.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #545 on: April 28, 2023, 09:21:14 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 28, 2023, 09:17:32 AM
Remember, they had 7-8 minutes to get this done.

I’m guessing they were talking these scenarios over with other teams two weeks ago.

If they felt that was the absolute best offer they could get, fine. I just find it hard to believe. I’m not unhappy with Wright. And still feeling really good about the Bears’ trajectory.
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« Reply #546 on: April 28, 2023, 09:27:15 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 09:21:14 AM
I’m guessing they were talking these scenarios over with other teams two weeks ago.

If they felt that was the absolute best offer they could get, fine. I just find it hard to believe. I’m not unhappy with Wright. And still feeling really good about the Bears’ trajectory.

Yes, I'm sure they were 'talking these scenarios over'.  But they didn't know he would be there until he was there, and at that point you had 7-8 minutes to say yes to a deal.
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« Reply #547 on: April 28, 2023, 09:56:14 AM »
We may be witnessing Peak Tempoing.
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« Reply #548 on: April 28, 2023, 10:07:58 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 28, 2023, 09:56:14 AM
We may be witnessing Peak Tempoing.

Sad pathetic man you are.
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« Reply #549 on: April 28, 2023, 10:08:56 AM »
So, we went from "Carter screwed up in a car, showed up to his pro day out of shape, I don't want him!" to "We let the Eagles get possibly the best player in the draft for nothing!"

I may be misunderstanding, but I don't think I am.
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« Reply #550 on: April 28, 2023, 10:10:17 AM »
If a day 3 pick (next year) was the best they could do for a guy hailed by many as the best talent in the draft, so be it. I guess what it really says is that Poles felt Wright was that important. I’m guessing it was a “Darnell Wright” no matter what situation.
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« Reply #551 on: April 28, 2023, 10:14:09 AM »
https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1651938859226112000?s=46&t=05HrG8dHonbWgeb4jtVing

What the Bears got may have indeed been the best they could do.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #552 on: April 28, 2023, 10:17:15 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 28, 2023, 10:08:56 AM
So, we went from "Carter screwed up in a car, showed up to his pro day out of shape, I don't want him!" to "We let the Eagles get possibly the best player in the draft for nothing!"

I may be misunderstanding, but I don't think I am.

Yes. Because thoughts, information, and situations change. Would I take Carter at 2 or 4, where we thought the Bears were likely to be drafting? No. 9 is quite different. And regardless of how (I) feel; we know most GMs don’t care about that shit, and that could be exploited. Again, my WORST case scenario in this situation is we “get stuck” with the most talented player in the draft at a dire position of need at the 9th pick.
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« Reply #553 on: April 28, 2023, 10:22:43 AM »
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« Reply #554 on: April 28, 2023, 10:26:30 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 10:17:15 AM
Yes. Because thoughts, information, and situations change. Would I take Carter at 2 or 4, where we thought the Bears were likely to be drafting? No. 9 is quite different. And regardless of how (I) feel; we know most GMs don’t care about that shit, and that could be exploited. Again, my WORST case scenario in this situation is we “get stuck” with the most talented player in the draft at a dire position of need at the 9th pick.

Agree, the worst case scenario is the Bears spend their best draft asset on a guy they don't even want to avoid getting a free draft pick to let another team pick him.
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