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2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #75 on: June 19, 2023, 11:33:08 AM »
I mean, if you want to use age rather than experience I suppose go ahead.  I think that's pretty silly for self-evident reasons.  Doesn't matter how old he is unless he's too old to coach.

Fact of the matter is: you'd have fired most of those guys, and missed out on a bunch of success for it.  You'd have fired most of this year's Final Four coaches, including the team who won the title.  You'd have fired the guy whose name is on our court.  Etc.

Lol. Underwood has been in coaching for 37 years.  He's not inexperienced!



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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #76 on: June 19, 2023, 12:24:00 PM »
Lol. Underwood has been in coaching for 37 years.  He's not inexperienced!

He is inexperienced in making it to the S16...Let's hope that changes soon.
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #77 on: June 19, 2023, 12:36:49 PM »
I don’t think Underwood’s age is all-telling, but it’s definitely not a nothing-burger.
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #78 on: June 19, 2023, 12:39:02 PM »
Off topic but relevant to this thread…

I think if Hawkins can be more assertive on offense, I see him being a player comparison to Michael Porter Jr’s game.
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2023, 12:41:31 PM »
Off topic but relevant to this thread…

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2023, 12:46:13 PM »
Off topic but relevant to this thread…

I think if Hawkins can be more assertive on offense, I see him being a player comparison to Michael Porter Jr’s game.

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2023, 12:48:53 PM »
Lol. Underwood has been in coaching for 37 years.  He's not inexperienced!

So, he has at least one E8, in 2010.
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2023, 12:49:16 PM »
Lol. Underwood has been in coaching for 37 years.  He's not inexperienced!

He has been a head coach for 10 seasons, 9 tournaments - as I said.

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2023, 12:49:25 PM »
Most teams didn't have All-Americans, but had at least 2 that sniffed or played NBA ball.

Were they number 1 seeds?
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2023, 12:50:07 PM »
I don’t think Underwood’s age is all-telling, but it’s definitely not a nothing-burger.

It completely, absolutely is though.  It's a thing to whine about, which this board treats like red meat every. single.  time., but it doesn't actually matter even 0.1%.

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #85 on: June 19, 2023, 01:11:29 PM »
It completely, absolutely is though.  It's a thing to whine about, which this board treats like red meat every. single.  time., but it doesn't actually matter even 0.1%.

How many really great coaches don’t get their first high major gig until mid 50s? There could be a few examples, but I can’t think of any.
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #86 on: June 19, 2023, 01:18:23 PM »
What practical, identifiable difference could it possibly make?

The answer, as we both know, is none.

It matters whether he wins, not how old he is.  His age simply could not possibly matter less.

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #87 on: June 19, 2023, 01:26:28 PM »
He has been a head coach for 10 seasons, 9 tournaments - as I said.

Need better results from a guy getting paid so much. 

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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #88 on: June 19, 2023, 01:32:37 PM »
You'd have fired most of the coaches who had the most tournament success this year.  Says all I need to know about that sort of short-sighted thinking.  That sort of thinking actively undermines program success.  I'm not quite naive enough to believe it actually has anything to do with his paychecks either - doesn't matter how much he's getting paid, it doesn't affect anything at all other than our likelihood of keeping him around.  You all would still be whining about him if he was making $500k a year, no question.

He can't last forever not winning enough in the tournament, obviously, but wanting to fire a guy who brought our program back to relevance because of one real upset in three tournament appearances is the most short-sighted, small-time thinking I've ever heard of.  It's a great way to put us back at the starting line with an empty cupboard and no national relevance.  Personally I like losing in the second round a whole lot more than I like watching the whole thing on TV.

My favorite thing was the one Loyalty guy who I saw insisting that Underwood's on the chopping block this year and we're going to get Musselman or Miller - same as when we got Smart or Stevens.  We almost certainly will not get one of those guys.
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Re: 2023-2024 Next Year Roster Expectations
« Reply #89 on: June 19, 2023, 01:40:17 PM »
Off topic but relevant to this thread…

I think if Hawkins can be more assertive on offense, I see him being a player comparison to Michael Porter Jr’s game.

That's a big climb.  Although similar in size, MPJ is way more athletic and his 3pt shoting (except in finals) is why he would have been a lotto pick.  His bad back let him drop to the Nugs mid-first.   I'd rate their rebounding, passing and D as somewhat comparable but MPJ's quick release on the jumper is exceptional for a big.