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Sven's team comes visiting

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Re: Sven's team comes visiting
« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2023, 04:00:29 PM »
So we've lowered the annual bar from SWEET SIXTEEN!!! to this? Weber and Groce made the tournament.

I would consider a sweet 16 or better a great season

I wouldn't expect to make it every year, even most Kansas or Duke or UNC fans probably wouldn't even say that

The tournament is a complete crap shoot and its all about match ups if you're a great team you can adjust and make the second weekend usually

A team with its two oldest and most experienced players being one year transfers probably ain't gonna get the job done unless we start smokin from 3 point land or draw two teams playing like shit
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« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2023, 04:06:57 PM »
I would consider a sweet 16 or better a great season

I wouldn't expect to make it every year, even most Kansas or Duke or UNC fans probably wouldn't even say that

The tournament is a complete crap shoot and its all about match ups if you're a great team you can adjust and make the second weekend usually

A team with its two oldest and most experienced players being one year transfers probably ain't gonna get the job done unless we start smokin from 3 point land or draw two teams playing like shit

We are unfortunately NOT a great team and most of time do not make adjustments as needed....that spells disaster come March. My gut tells me IF, IF we can win our first one, we take 1 more, if we don't flame out in the first game and that is a B1G IF. We play a gameplan like Fichigan, then we can win 2 if not probably out first rd.
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« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2023, 04:29:11 PM »
So we've lowered the annual bar from SWEET SIXTEEN!!! to this? Weber and Groce made the tournament.

Did they make it three years in a row with their players?  IDRTEH

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« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2023, 11:04:16 PM »
Groce never made a tournament here. Not even with 7 seasons of Tracy Abrams.
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« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2023, 11:19:40 PM »
Groce never made a tournament here. Not even with 7 seasons of Tracy Abrams.

Did I dream his loss to Miami in The Tourney his first year and the implementation of video replay afterwards? Or is there another tourney you are discussing?
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« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2023, 12:29:22 AM »
I apparently repressed that memory.
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« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2023, 03:36:21 AM »
Groce never made a tournament here. Not even with 7 seasons of Tracy Abrams.

He made it his first year. Never again.
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« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2023, 08:15:36 AM »
I apparently repressed that memory.

Show us on the action figure where the bald man touched you.
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« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2023, 11:50:23 AM »
Show us on the action figure where the bald man touched you.
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« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2023, 11:51:25 AM »
Probably trotting out this lineup for Big Ten season:

Pos.    Starting 5    Bench 1
F/C    Michael Finke    Maverick Morgan    
G/F    Malcolm Hill    D.J. Williams
SG    Kendrick Nunn    Alex Austin    
SG    Aaron Jordan    Jalen Coleman-Lands    
PG    Jaylon Tate    Khalid Lewis


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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2023, 12:10:42 PM »
Probably trotting out this lineup for Big Ten season:

Pos.    Starting 5    Bench 1
F/C    Michael Finke    Maverick Morgan    
G/F    Malcolm Hill    D.J. Williams
SG    Kendrick Nunn    Alex Austin    
SG    Aaron Jordan    Jalen Coleman-Lands    
PG    Jaylon Tate    Khalid Lewis


Nunn and Hill were ballers the rest, yeah...
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« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2023, 12:53:59 PM »
So we've lowered the annual bar from SWEET SIXTEEN!!! to this? Weber and Groce made the tournament.

At what point was the annual bar 'SWEET SIXTEEN!!!' ever in our program's history?

I mean I suppose maybe it was the expectation for some, but we've never met it.  We got four Final Fours in the late 40's/early 50's.  We made three S16's in 5 years in the early 80's.  We made 4 in 5 years in the early 2000's.

Three times in 70 years we've made more than one S16 in a 5 year span, one of which was in the Bill Russell college era.

Obviously we want to be that, but the way to be that is to consistently have good teams, consistently get into the tournament with favored seeds, not have big tournament droughts.  Be able to build and rebuild.  Literally every great coach has letdown tournament years like the year we lost to Loyola, which is really the only notable black mark on Underwood's tourney resume (and yes, it was a big one).

I think some of those questions are still open about Underwood for sure, but the number of great coaches who it would've been a mistake to fire because they didn't make a sweet 16 in their first 5-6 six years at the program is high.  The tournament is fickle, but keep getting there with high seeds and you will break through.
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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2023, 01:10:18 PM »

Nunn and Hill were ballers the rest, yeah...
We whiffed on so many point guards in that era. Demetrius Jackson, London Perrantes, Q Snider (lol), Brunson.

As an aside, Larry Austin is still drawing a paycheck playing basketball as is Glynn Watson, who I still can't believe we didn't offer unless they flat-out told us no because of how Demetri was treated.

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« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2023, 02:13:23 PM »
Groce was a good dude but he couldn't land a PG or big to save his life.

He was a hit with the moms though.
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« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2023, 02:16:09 PM »
I apparently repressed that memory.

Sure hope you didn't repress this one



10 years ago. Man where does the time go? I was still lurking on the old HQ back then.
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