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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #120 on: March 22, 2023, 10:40:04 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 22, 2023, 09:40:55 AM
He definitely seems to be a chip off the old block. Probably not as cheap and narrow-minded though.

Let's hope so.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #121 on: March 22, 2023, 12:36:36 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 22, 2023, 10:40:04 AM
Let's hope so.

I think he’s kind of demonstrated that already?
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2023, 12:48:55 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on March 22, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
It's starting to sound like Brads been asked to step down from illinois or take up a new gig somewhere else.

honestly I find this very hard to believe
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2023, 12:51:58 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 22, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
honestly I find this very hard to believe

Me, too. I’m sure he’s feeling pressure, but I doubt he’s being pressured to leave.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #124 on: March 22, 2023, 01:16:30 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 22, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
honestly I find this very hard to believe
Same. Would be completely unprecedented in JW's tenure. Only possible explanation is if there's been a total breakdown of the bro-ship and JW is being a petty bitch.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #125 on: March 22, 2023, 01:17:25 PM »
That is absolutely not true.  LOL.

Our fans, I swear to fucking God.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #126 on: March 22, 2023, 01:21:26 PM »
I agree that it sounds like a long stretch but the source of whom the chatter is emitting from is what is raising the eyebrows.   The person  has had a rather solid archive of being accurate in the past. 
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2023, 01:25:38 PM »
They're fucking with you if they told you Brad Underwood is being asked to step down or find another job.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #128 on: March 22, 2023, 01:28:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 22, 2023, 08:02:20 AM
That seems extreme, but don’t go trying to get my morning wood up.

You're an Underwood hater now too?

Shocked at how many people want to start over.  Those Weber and Groce years were such a blast.  Frankly those guys are probably closer to the best case scenario if Underwood left right now than the worst.  The number of coaches who are definitely better than Underwood is small, and the number we could get of those guys is pretty close to zero.

Possible it's an upgrade, for sure, but certainly less than 50/50 shot at that.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #129 on: March 22, 2023, 01:39:02 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 22, 2023, 09:55:40 AM
I actually think Whitman has hit some homeruns and has been extremely successful as the Illinois AD. I couldn’t say the same for Guenther.
Guenther hired Bill Self.

The Underwood hire was an A-level home run. I maintain that Lovie Smith was never a home run or a particularly good idea despite the fan enthusiasm for it. Bielema was a good, solid hire.

Retaining John Groce is still his worst personnel decision.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #130 on: March 22, 2023, 01:44:17 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 01:17:25 PM
That is absolutely not true.  LOL.

Our fans, I swear to fucking God.

Most of us on here have acknowledged that this sounds like bullshit. 

As far as whether Underwood stays or goes, I'm not passionate about it one way or the other.  He's a good coach, but this year was pretty damn rough.  I don't want him to be fired, but if he finds something else, see ya. 
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #131 on: March 22, 2023, 01:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 22, 2023, 12:36:36 PM
I think he’s kind of demonstrated that already?

Through the lens of Illini Standard Incompetence, sure. But the jury may still be out.

1. His first pick at WBB coach stunk. The new one has been good in year one. Let's see what happens.
2. Hired Lovie. He bombed. Then hired Bielema off the scrap heap. Granted Bielema has done some great things with some of Lovie's guys. Let's see what happens.
3. Kept Groce even though he sucked ass and then hired Underachiever. He got the program back to where it should be. He has underachieved, though, relative to some of the talent brought in, has he not? Let's see what happens.

Also, it appears Underachiever is pushing Guenther Jr.'s hand, not the other way around.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #132 on: March 22, 2023, 01:46:37 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 22, 2023, 01:16:30 PM
Same. Would be completely unprecedented in JW's tenure. Only possible explanation is if there's been a total breakdown of the bro-ship and JW is being a petty bitch.

Or, Underachiever is a poorly dressed asshole that yells at black kids. Salute to ChicagoFan!
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #133 on: March 22, 2023, 01:52:09 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 22, 2023, 01:46:37 PM
Or, Underachiever is a poorly dressed asshole that yells at black kids. Salute to ChicagoFan!

ChicagoFan, lol.  Somewhere, that dude is fucking Tracy Abrams in the butt.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #134 on: March 22, 2023, 01:53:16 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 01:28:27 PM
Those Weber and Groce years were such a blast.  Frankly those guys are probably closer to the best case scenario if Underwood left right now than the worst.  The number of coaches who are definitely better than Underwood is small, and the number we could get of those guys is pretty close to zero.

Sean Miller is alleged to be the guy who is in if/when Underachiever leaves.

Why Underachiever would want to leave is beyond me given the number of "merry men" Illini fans who are just thankful that the team does well in the B1G regular season and make excuses when he loses in the second round to Porter Moser.
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