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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2023, 07:20:12 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 18, 2023, 07:14:57 PM
"It's our fault, kinda because he's calling them and we're not listening to him or we're not doing 'em."

"Something I can learn -- something we can learn as a team is probably doing a better job of following Coach's game plan. Throughout the year we had a lot of games where the Coach would tell us what the other team would do, and they would do it and it would be because of our mistakes."

"It's not hard to swallow, it's expected when you don't move the ball, when you don't execute."

3 players post game.

Maybe Underachiever should take a communications class so people will not tune him out. Betting the Princeton guys listen to their coach.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2023, 07:27:10 PM »
Imagine that, players accepting blame after a loss. Have never seen that before. Did Underwood do the same? Honest question.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2023, 07:29:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 18, 2023, 07:20:12 PM
Maybe Underachiever should take a communications class so people will not tune him out. Betting the Princeton guys listen to their coach.
It didn't work for him this year, but Greg Gard said something about looking for winning HS QBs who's a winning HS PG.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2023, 07:33:56 PM »
Anyone got a Charlie Ward hanging around out there?
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2023, 08:58:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 18, 2023, 07:27:10 PM
Imagine that, players accepting blame after a loss. Have never seen that before. Did Underwood do the same? Honest question.

Nope. Just went on about how we were blah blah blah blah one of the youngest teams in the country blah blah blah.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2023, 08:59:19 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 18, 2023, 07:20:12 PM
Maybe Underachiever should take a communications class so people will not tune him out. Betting the Princeton guys listen to their coach.

And don't allow the players to run the asylum.

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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2023, 11:34:04 AM »
Also if you're going to bring in upperclassmen through the transfer portal they need to be more like Sam McLaurin or Andres Feliz than Matthew freakin Mayer.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2023, 01:11:06 PM »
Ehh to me the bigger problem was putting all the eggs in the Skyy Clark basket and leaving a scholarship open that could have been used on another guard or backup big. Mayer should have been a great complimentary piece rather than getting the volume he got. He and Shannon are both too streaky to be the go-to guys. We also had a really weird year where guys like Epps and Melendez just forgot how to shoot a basketball down the stretch. And we didn’t have a healthy Goode for the nights we got Bad Matt.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2023, 01:43:34 PM »
Melendez's shot was affected by a shoulder injury. He still played because of defense.

Hawkins, Melendez, Shannon all said players didn't listen to the coaches, did not execute what they were supposed to run.

Mayer said he ran what he thought was best.

Hawkins mentioned promises to guys, a guard quitting on the team

BReal's alter ego implied Clark faked the shoulder injury when he got benched. Also that Perrin left because of unmet expectations/ unkept promises.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2023, 01:47:26 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 19, 2023, 01:43:34 PM
Melendez's shot was affected by a shoulder injury. He still played because of defense.

Hawkins, Melendez, Shannon all said players did listen to the coaches, did not execute what they were supposed to run.

Mayer said he ran what he thought was best.

Hawkins mentioned promises to guys, a guard quitting on the team

BReal's alter ego implied Clark faked the shoulder injury when he got benched. Also that Perrin left because of unmet expectations/ unkept promises.

Sounds like we have an issue with a coach making too many promises and players not listening to him.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2023, 02:04:58 PM »
To me it is not hard. Explain to prospects, parents, and handlers how the player / their skills fits into plans.

If they are probably good enough to project as starters, tell them. Make it clear they will need to meet expectations and earn playing time.

If they need further development, say so. Explain the plan and timeline.

Then the NIL people contact them ...

Promising playing time is asking for problems.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2023, 03:22:38 PM »
Assess the impact and reaction to NIL and the portal. Make changes in the approach as a result of this year's results.
Stop going with the "we're young" excuse. Who's responsible for leaving us with 3 freshman guards ?
After Curbelo and now Clark, assess the approach to the point guard position.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2023, 03:35:03 PM »
Cut the iso ball bullshit

Revoke the scholarships of anyone who attempts a step back three

Assuming Hawkins is back, make it crystal fucking clear that he is never to be the point man ever again.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2023, 03:55:07 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on March 19, 2023, 03:35:03 PM
Assuming Hawkins is back, make it crystal fucking clear that he is never to be the point man ever again.

Do you believe this was his decision versus the decision of the coaching staff?
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2023, 04:01:14 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 19, 2023, 03:55:07 PM
Do you believe this was his decision versus the decision of the coaching staff?

It was the coaching staff's decision. And not a very good one.
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