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Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1170 on: February 20, 2025, 02:15:32 PM »
They laid off every new, recently transferred, or recently promoted person in the National Parks Service and National Forest Service. Trump did this. The guy who bitched that we weren't "raking the leaves" fires the people who rake the leaves. Both of those orgs are chronically understaffed.

Now if you say "it sucks, but we aren't gonna have National Parks", we can have a policy disagreement there. But that's not what you, or Musk or Trump are saying.

I was just on a call with people from the USDA. They had to feverishly work to get people off of "probationary" status or else they were going to lose a shitload of their staff. And those people are essential to getting work done.
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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1171 on: February 20, 2025, 02:15:57 PM »
I’m fine with the concept of making government more efficient and cost-effective. I’m not convinced the world’s richest man, who wasn’t elected to anything is the person to oversee it.

This is why "the progressives" suck.

"The world's richest man has no clue how government works, and how difficult it will be to identify from a computer where we are overstaffed or who are low performers, and his efforts will only leave critical areas understaffed and fire top performers we cannot regain, all while leaving what possible efficiencies there are in place - primarily in areas where he can get the money for himself"

Do not start with an apology. Don't bury the lede.

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1172 on: February 20, 2025, 02:18:18 PM »
I was just on a call with people from the USDA. They had to feverishly work to get people off of "probationary" status or else they were going to lose a shitload of their staff. And those people are essential to getting work done.

And you gave me grief for growing my own lettuce....

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1173 on: February 20, 2025, 02:20:44 PM »
And you gave me grief for growing my own lettuce....

Uhh. No I didn't. I never said shit to you about lettuce.
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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1174 on: February 20, 2025, 02:24:28 PM »
Waste fraud and abuse indeed - the Presidio Trust turns a profit. Shut it down.


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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1175 on: February 20, 2025, 02:26:55 PM »
Uhh. No I didn't. I never said shit to you about lettuce.

I was there, I heard it. You definitely gave him shit about lettuce.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1176 on: February 20, 2025, 02:28:48 PM »
I was there, I heard it. You definitely gave him shit about lettuce.

And the reason his shits are so runny - he doesn't eat lettuce!

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1177 on: February 20, 2025, 03:59:12 PM »
I know that universities doing research on food, etc. are closing down those departments. Even some GOP members are getting nervous about the impact on their state schools. Semafor had a report today about US scientists applying in large numbers to some German research group  (that, ironically enough, had been created to assist German scientists to emigrate to the US after the Nazis took over). We obviously made the decision to outsource R&D to universities after WWII. That's over.  What is left to fill the void?

If the heads of agencies want to assess who is doing a good job and should be kept, fine. Allowing some tech bros to do it via an algorithm has its limits as we have seen. We have read about the "oops, we want you back" emails for certain positions.

You want to give up providing food for other countries who are too dumb, whatever, to grow shit themselves? Fine. But realize there will be consequences for US farmers and in allowing someone else, like Commie Chinese and Soviet Fucks, to fill the void. While it may not be an issue today or tomorrow, it will be a mess down the road that someone is going to have to clean up ala the upcoming sell out of the Ukrainians.

Can you point to any meaningful development that the UI Soybean lab has had any time recently? The amount of money they have to play with is a drop in the bucket compared to Big Ag and private equity that drive almost all innovation in ag.

One family owned seed company—Beck’s Hybrids—publishes more valuable research and testing in their annual Practical Farm Research book composed of data from all over the eastern 2/3 of the country—than the UI has come out with in the last decade combined. As someone who has spent his entire life in ag, the soybean lab thing is just not something that matters. Purdue and Iowa State are light years ahead of UI these days in all things agronomy anyways.

When I was at UI 20+ years ago I had classes in that building and worked mornings, nights, and weekends at the beef research facility across from AH. The research we were doing was mostly feed additive and antibiotic efficacy stuff.

The college of ACES would whore out to whatever companies they could to get enough money to keep the lights on, but it wasn’t really impactful work other than for the people who earned money working there. Grateful for that, as the $6.10 an hour I made there paid my rent and beer money. But I could have made that somewhere else and not been out feeding cows at daylight when it was 2 degrees outside.

I’m still not clear on why we are putting our food production at risk to the Chinese and Russians by slashing unnecessary college labs that aren’t doing shit.
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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1178 on: February 20, 2025, 04:06:45 PM »
Can you point to any meaningful development that the UI Soybean lab has had any time recently? The amount of money they have to play with is a drop in the bucket compared to Big Ag and private equity that drive almost all innovation in ag.

One family owned seed company—Beck’s Hybrids—publishes more valuable research and testing in their annual Practical Farm Research book composed of data from all over the eastern 2/3 of the country—than the UI has come out with in the last decade combined. As someone who has spent his entire life in ag, the soybean lab thing is just not something that matters. Purdue and Iowa State are light years ahead of UI these days in all things agronomy anyways.

When I was at UI 20+ years ago I had classes in that building and worked mornings, nights, and weekends at the beef research facility across from AH. The research we were doing was mostly feed additive and antibiotic efficacy stuff.

The college of ACES would whore out to whatever companies they could to get enough money to keep the lights on, but it wasn’t really impactful work other than for the people who earned money working there. Grateful for that, as the $6.10 an hour I made there paid my rent and beer money. But I could have made that somewhere else and not been out feeding cows at daylight when it was 2 degrees outside.

I’m still not clear on why we are putting our food production at risk to the Chinese and Russians by slashing unnecessary college labs that aren’t doing shit.

I have no clue. Maybe they have. Maybe they have not. But, for example, we discussed here, previously, that they were trying to develop products for Sub Sahara Africa that you admitted would not be profitable for corporate purposes but would be, I would think, possible game changers for the locals. There is something to be said to trying to develop something that is "good," but not profitable enough for corporations to develop, isn't there? Plus, it is a way for drunken college students to maybe learn something while getting beer money. 

Farmers are not nervous because USAID isn't going to be buying their stuff? OK....
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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1179 on: February 21, 2025, 04:25:45 PM »
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-trump-musk-funding-foia-congress-transparency

Let's see if I can wrap my brain around this.

*Doge gets most of its funding via transfers from federal agencies under the authority of the Economy Act. As such, Doge is effectively treated as a federal agency

*Members of Doge have taken control of federal agencies. They have terminated employees, set policy, defunded programs, and so on. It is acting as if it has the authority of a federal agency.

*As an acting federal agency, Doge should be subject to the open records laws.

*However, Doge rejects FOIA requests, citing executive privilege. They claim they serve only in an advisory role to the President.

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If DOGE is a federal agency, it can’t shield its records from the public. If it’s not an agency, then DOGE’s tens of millions of dollars in funding weren’t legally allocated and should be (clawed back) /quote]
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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1180 on: February 21, 2025, 04:36:18 PM »
Don’t worry, this is all normal in a functioning democracy.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1181 on: February 21, 2025, 04:55:32 PM »
Don’t worry, this is all normal in a functioning democracy.

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Re: Wtf is Elon Musk doing today?
« Reply #1182 on: February 21, 2025, 04:56:13 PM »
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-trump-musk-funding-foia-congress-transparency

Let's see if I can wrap my brain around this.

*Doge gets most of its funding via transfers from federal agencies under the authority of the Economy Act. As such, Doge is effectively treated as a federal agency

*Members of Doge have taken control of federal agencies. They have terminated employees, set policy, defunded programs, and so on. It is acting as if it has the authority of a federal agency.

*As an acting federal agency, Doge should be subject to the open records laws.

*However, Doge rejects FOIA requests, citing executive privilege. They claim they serve only in an advisory role to the President.

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If DOGE is a federal agency, it can’t shield its records from the public. If it’s not an agency, then DOGE’s tens of millions of dollars in funding weren’t legally allocated and should be (clawed back)


You mean the Deep State? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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« Reply #1183 on: February 21, 2025, 05:22:40 PM »
Highly?

Settle for adequately in this case.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #1184 on: February 21, 2025, 07:05:32 PM »
Don’t worry, this is all normal in a functioning democracy.

The people voted for this in a free and fair election. You’ve told us many times we don’t have meaningful voter fraud. Therefore, this is democracy.
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