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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2022, 05:03:00 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 15, 2022, 04:36:13 PM
You seem averse to any analysis from people paid to do such analysis. So are you in the school of thought that only Bill Belichick’s opinion matters (and is he still a genius)? Are you of the opinion that all opinions are worthless (except yours)?

Maybe Tom Brady’s the only one with a worthwhile opinion?

No. No. No.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2022, 05:03:20 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 15, 2022, 04:47:51 PM
From today .....
"Now, I’m not sure we’ve seen much in the way of meaningful change from Fields as a passer. His 51.7 passing grade still ranks 36th out of 39 qualifying quarterbacks. Just this past week, he threw a dreadful pick-six to take his turnover-worthy play total to 16 (second-most in NFL)."
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-reranking-top-quarterbacks-2021-nfl-draft-class-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-mac-jones

I'm guessing Michael Renner gets paid for his analysis.

Yes.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2022, 05:05:53 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 15, 2022, 04:47:51 PM
From today .....
"Now, I’m not sure we’ve seen much in the way of meaningful change from Fields as a passer. His 51.7 passing grade still ranks 36th out of 39 qualifying quarterbacks. Just this past week, he threw a dreadful pick-six to take his turnover-worthy play total to 16 (second-most in NFL)."
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-reranking-top-quarterbacks-2021-nfl-draft-class-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-mac-jones

I'm guessing Michael Renner gets paid for his analysis.

That’s fine and dandy. Never said Fields was a finished product as a passer. But if you can’t see that 1) he’s been clearly improved since early in the season 2) the talent around him limits him (again multiple key drops). TD bombs, game winning TDs, 4th downs etc, you aren’t paying attention.

This guy is scoring 30 points a game and is surrounded by trash.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2022, 05:06:45 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 15, 2022, 05:05:53 PM
That’s fine and dandy. Never said Fields was a finished product as a passer. But if you can’t see that 1) he’s been clearly improved since early in the season 2) the talent around him limits him (again multiple key drops). TD bombs, game winning TDs, 4th downs etc, you aren’t paying attention.

This guy is scoring 30 points a game and is surrounded by trash.

He runs better than Bobby Douglass
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2022, 05:07:46 PM »
You can also see clear improvements in his reads and the little but critical details such as ball handling. His fakes have been outstanding. If you can’t see his improvement you’re a moron.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2022, 05:09:10 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 15, 2022, 05:07:46 PM
You can also see clear improvements in his reads and the little but critical details such as ball handling. His fakes have been outstanding. If you can’t see his improvement you’re a moron.

I don't think anyone has said he has not improved. Granted, it was a low starting bar.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2022, 05:10:02 PM »
Lol
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2022, 05:23:15 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 15, 2022, 05:05:53 PM
That’s fine and dandy. Never said Fields was a finished product as a passer. But if you can’t see that 1) he’s been clearly improved since early in the season 2) the talent around him limits him (again multiple key drops). TD bombs, game winning TDs, 4th downs etc, you aren’t paying attention.

This guy is scoring 30 points a game and is surrounded by trash.
The team is scoring 30.
The trash should get some credit.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2022, 05:30:16 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 15, 2022, 05:23:15 PM
The team is scoring 30.
The trash should get some credit.

Lol sure
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2022, 05:31:15 PM »
This team would be scoring 13 a game with Zack Wilson.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2022, 05:32:25 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 15, 2022, 05:31:15 PM
This team would be scoring 13 a game with Zack Wilson.
Now it's the team ? I thought it was Fields.
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2022, 05:33:31 PM »
Again, Fields certainly isn’t a complete passer just yet, but if you can’t see that the position is evolving, and Fields is the straw that stirs the drink for the Bears; you’re just a dinosaur. Or maybe stupid.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2022, 05:34:12 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 15, 2022, 05:32:25 PM
Now it's the team ? I thought it was Fields.

He’s the “main” reason, yes.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2022, 05:38:07 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 15, 2022, 05:33:31 PM
Again, Fields certainly isn’t a complete passer just yet, but if you can’t see that the position is evolving, and Fields is the straw that stirs the drink for the Bears; you’re just a dinosaur. Or maybe stupid.
The qb is most often the straw of every team, from Pee Wee on up.
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Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2022, 05:41:23 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 15, 2022, 05:38:07 PM
The qb is most often the straw of every team, from Pee Wee on up.

Lol

The offense was mired in awfulness two months ago. What changed? The philosophy changed and the quarterback play improved. The points went up. A lot. But yeah, EQ St. Brown is out there smashing.
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