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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10740 on: Today at 02:51:08 AM »
WAYYYY over my head.
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« Reply #10741 on: Today at 02:53:56 AM »
I think Jesus might be way over Custard’s head.
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« Reply #10742 on: Today at 03:05:35 AM »
It’s also pretty hilarious that Custard seems to think that I’m not aware of what Christians do charity wise.
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« Reply #10743 on: Today at 03:09:08 AM »
How a practicing Christian can support such an obviously fraudulent Christian is also beyond me, but obviously there are millions who are able to bridge that enormous cavern.

As long as you wave a bible and say God + America some will fall for the ruse.
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« Reply #10744 on: Today at 03:11:22 AM »
I would argue El Sayed is a better Christian than Donald Trump.
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« Reply #10746 on: Today at 01:11:01 PM »
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« Reply #10747 on: Today at 04:44:16 PM »
Not that funny. Not very original, tired tropes.

But at least he’s not a fucking snowflake like Mn

What a goddamn pussy

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« Reply #10748 on: Today at 07:49:34 PM »
But at least he’s not a fucking snowflake like Mn

What a goddamn pussy

There’s a reason there’s no “a” in Mn.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10749 on: Today at 08:05:36 PM »
The point is that a lot of companies used to treat their employees like Costco
True.
but the American people sold them out to save a nickel at Walmart, who treats employees and suppliers like shit.
Partly true. We have the Sherman Act and Clayton Act, already on the books, and have for over a century, that should protect suppliers against the downstream effects of private monopolization/monopsony. The courts - these are mostly Republican appointee judges - unfortunately gave up on enforcing those laws as written and replaced it with bespoke/pro-business interpretations of said laws (for an example of this in action, the Supreme Court's Leegin Creative case is Justice Kennedy at his worst). The average consumer has no way of learning about supplier relationships, so it seems a bit silly to rely on consumer purchasing decisions to sort out policy preferences as opposed to heavier regulation of the business to business marketplace. I don't think Wal-Mart becomes Wal-Mart (or Amazon, Amazon, etc.) if Warren Court descendants stocked SCOTUS and the COAs.

Acceptance of treating employees like shit is a downstream effect of a whole bunch of commonly held but toxic beliefs about labor in general, both from the right (hostility to labor unions, a presumption that certain jobs need not provide a living wage as a matter of policy), and too many people on the left (for example, the caustic attitude of otherwise well-meaning educators towards work that doesn't require a college degree). Because everyone benefits from cheap labor, no one really wants to do much about it. The Wal-Mart/fast food situation is the social problem unions and labor regs were designed to fix but lots of people think that's sOcIaLiSm instead of leveling the bargaining table and labor marketplace.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10750 on: Today at 09:25:46 PM »
...and too many people on the left (for example, the caustic attitude of otherwise well-meaning educators towards work that doesn't require a college degree).

Too many people on the left?  Maybe in the 70s and 80s, but I think left-leaning policymakers and educators over the past 25 years have been supportive of state and federal funding initiatives that would expand apprenticeship programs, technical training, and community college partnerships.

I think the left recognizes the loss of manufacturing and heavy industrial jobs, starting in the 80s, had a devastating impact in many communities.  It also coincided with the rise of lower-wage jobs in the service and retail sectors. We became a more consumer-oriented society.

I think Democrats can be criticized for not making trade schools a higher priority, but today vocational training has significant bipartisan backing.

In Illinois, environmental groups have been working with trade unions (like IBEW), utilities, and government agencies to create funding programs for job training in the renewable energy field.
https://dceo.illinois.gov/ceja/workforce-training-programs.html
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10751 on: Today at 09:40:16 PM »
There’s a reason there’s no “a” in Mn.
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