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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9840 on: May 14, 2026, 11:05:19 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 14, 2026, 10:44:03 AM
With a little help from his friends.

As the old saying goes, "politics ain't beanbag."
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9841 on: May 14, 2026, 11:06:00 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 14, 2026, 09:09:02 AM
It’s ThePAMan’s world, we’re just living in it.

It is called "reality" and many are living in it. Others? Well, they are doomed to disappointment.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9842 on: May 14, 2026, 11:09:18 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 14, 2026, 09:14:23 AM
Nevada looks pretty diverse. And a Google search says Sanders won Nevada “in a landslide.”



Again, take a seat, Nixon Boy.

And the makeup of those who caucused (as it is not a regular primary) was???
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9843 on: May 14, 2026, 11:25:54 AM »
According Nichi's AI....

The electorate for the 2020 Nevada Democratic presidential caucuses was composed of 65% white voters, 18% Hispanic/Latino voters, 10% Black voters, 3% Asian voters, and 4% voters of other races.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9844 on: May 14, 2026, 12:03:51 PM »
Meanwhile, in South Carolina....

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/primaries-caucuses/entrance-and-exit-polls/south-carolina/democratic

From Nichi's Wikipedia....

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Biden's win was deemed a major victory, as he won all 46 counties in the state. The win was largely attributed to his support from 61% of African-American voters (African-American voters make up approximately 60% of the Democratic electorate in South Carolina).[94] Before the primary on February 26, House Majority Whip and longtime U.S. Representative Jim Clyburn endorsed Biden.[95] Many cited Clyburn's endorsement as a reason for Biden's wide margin of victory, as Clyburn's endorsement was a deciding factor for many African American voters in South Carolina.[96] Thirty-six percent of all primary voters said that they made their decision after Clyburn's endorsement; of that total, 70% voted for Biden.[97] According to FiveThirtyEight, the outcome significantly boosted Biden's chance of winning multiple Super Tuesday states (especially southern states like North Carolina, Texas, and Virginia).

Sanders came in second place in the primary. He received an estimated 14% of the African-American vote, down from 16% in 2016.[98] Sanders did however win the Black youth vote.[99] Even in the Upstate region of the state, which was seen as friendly towards Sanders,[100] Biden won every county, although his margin of victory was smaller in that region than it was in other parts of South Carolina.[98]

Why is Tempo so patronizing of Democratic voters? Is it because he is not a Democrat but a socialist who wants there to be a dictator of the proletariat?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9845 on: May 14, 2026, 12:05:16 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 14, 2026, 10:44:03 AM
With a little help from his friends.

I.e, actual Democrats.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9846 on: May 14, 2026, 02:26:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2026, 12:05:16 PM
I.e, actual Democrats.

You must really hate Tom Steyer
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9847 on: May 14, 2026, 02:33:16 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on May 14, 2026, 10:36:32 AM
Fundraising is obviously critical, but not enough of Bernie's supporters showed up to vote.  Biden was able to build a broader coalition to help navigate the primaries.

Overthinking. If the next primary was in say, Washington, Michigan, or even Georgia, maybe even Florida or Texas, this conversation never happens. South Carolina was the perfect storm, the makeup of the African American electorate there vs say Michigan, and the sway that Jim Clyburn had. That gets Biden a win and back into the race.

Now - after that, it's not just that Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropped out, Tempo neglects to mention that Elizabeth Warren, who was in a worse spot than Buttigieg for sure, didn't drop out. Her voters had a stronger overlap with support for Bernie, Pete and Klobuchar with Biden.

None of this fucking matters. Biden beat Trump and built a very capable support structure, cabinet/etc... I for one would not claim that Bernie would have done better or worse as President *if* he beat Trump. We *know* Biden beat Trump. All that needed to happen was for Biden not to run. Kamala Harris goes nowhere in an open primary.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9848 on: May 14, 2026, 03:34:47 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 14, 2026, 02:33:16 PM
Overthinking. If the next primary was in say, Washington, Michigan, or even Georgia, maybe even Florida or Texas, this conversation never happens. South Carolina was the perfect storm, the makeup of the African American electorate there vs say Michigan, and the sway that Jim Clyburn had. That gets Biden a win and back into the race.

Now - after that, it's not just that Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropped out, Tempo neglects to mention that Elizabeth Warren, who was in a worse spot than Buttigieg for sure, didn't drop out. Her voters had a stronger overlap with support for Bernie, Pete and Klobuchar with Biden.

None of this fucking matters. Biden beat Trump and built a very capable support structure, cabinet/etc... I for one would not claim that Bernie would have done better or worse as President *if* he beat Trump. We *know* Biden beat Trump. All that needed to happen was for Biden not to run. Kamala Harris goes nowhere in an open primary.

I’d say this is pretty spot on. I’m not sure that Custard, Judy, and Mn *know* that Biden beat Trump, though.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9849 on: May 14, 2026, 03:38:26 PM »
And for the record, in 2016 Bernie won Michigan and Wisconsin and I think Missouri, and narrowly lost Illinois. Yes, his support was strongest in “whiter” states, but if he’s the Democratic nominee, Democratic voters are voting for him. Period.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9850 on: May 14, 2026, 03:40:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2026, 12:03:51 PM
Meanwhile, in South Carolina....

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/primaries-caucuses/entrance-and-exit-polls/south-carolina/democratic

From Nichi's Wikipedia....

Why is Tempo so patronizing of Democratic voters? Is it because he is not a Democrat but a socialist who wants there to be a dictator of the proletariat?

PAMan loves welfare for billionaires! AKA “Capitalism.”

https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2054745428927635471/video/1?s=46
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9851 on: May 14, 2026, 03:42:23 PM »
The bottom line is the Democratic Machine was just too strong for one person to take out. Bernie didn’t lose because he “wasn’t a Democrat,” he lost because the game is rigged. We’ve seen no better proof than the last 10 years.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9852 on: May 14, 2026, 03:52:13 PM »
Bernie made a few tactical errors. The debate after Covid broke out, was a huge gaffe IMO. Instead of making a passionate case for universal healthcare, Bernie stuck with his normal routine and seemed to say the word “billionaire” every other word. Not that he was wrong (as we see in 2026 as preposterous as it sounds Bernie might have undersold the danger of billionaires), but that was a time to really emphasize his platform and instead stuck with “it’s the oligarchy, stupid!”

Murph brings up a great point; which Democrat didn’t drop out? The one that he competed most with for voters. I’m sure it would have happened anyway, but Bernie shouldn’t have antagonized the “establishment” by saying “we’re coming after you.”

Bernie Sanders has been the most popular politician in America for 11 years running (alive and also serving). It’s absurd to say he doesn’t appeal to voting masses.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9853 on: May 14, 2026, 03:53:28 PM »
The game is rigged for the establishment and for rich people. The last 10 years should be ample proof.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9854 on: May 14, 2026, 03:56:48 PM »
It’s too bad that Biden didn’t listen to Obama when Obama told him “Joe, you don’t have to do this (run).” But Joe’s massive ego told him he had to run. Only Trump has a bigger ego than Joe Biden.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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