WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5730 on: August 22, 2024, 05:27:05 PM »

“But be peaceful.”

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5731 on: August 22, 2024, 08:49:38 PM »

Quote from: LuvsTerrorists on August 22, 2024, 02:33:01 PM

You.

Quote from: Jobu on August 22, 2024, 03:01:06 PM

Yeah Cus, you kinda did say that...

I said absolutely nothing of the sort. I just said that there were other people there with other interests. I didn’t assign any level of blame to those people. Feel free to show me where I did.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5732 on: August 22, 2024, 10:18:34 PM »

Quote from: Custard on August 22, 2024, 08:49:38 PM

I said absolutely nothing of the sort. I just said that there were other people there with other interests. I didn’t assign any level of blame to those people. Feel free to show me where I did.

There were good people there. The cops and then there were the MAGAs.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5733 on: August 22, 2024, 10:31:51 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on August 22, 2024, 10:18:34 PM

There were good people there. The cops and then there were the MAGAs.

Very fine people on both sides.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5734 on: August 23, 2024, 12:54:18 AM »

I have caught up with most of the DNC. First, I have been more of an Adam Kinzinger Republican than a Democrat.

Identity politics, self esteem, and cancel culture are or were turn offs. I also remember when they were the ones banning books -- Huck Finn, Mocking Bird, etc.

That said, I am impressed.
These are more like Clinton Democrats. Where have they been hiding Kamala Harris?

I like the positive message and the joy. Big contrast with the nastiness of the people posing as Republicans.

I might actually cast a meaningless vote for Harris and Walz.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5735 on: August 23, 2024, 05:48:39 AM »

Quote from: illiniray on August 23, 2024, 12:54:18 AM

I have caught up with most of the DNC. First, I have been more of an Adam Kinzinger Republican than a Democrat.

Identity politics, self esteem, and cancel culture are or were turn offs. I also remember when they were the ones banning books -- Huck Finn, Mocking Bird, etc.

That said, I am impressed.
These are more like Clinton Democrats. Where have they been hiding Kamala Harris?

I like the positive message and the joy. Big contrast with the nastiness of the people posing as Republicans.

I might actually cast a meaningless vote for Harris and Walz.

The weirdo who wants to share public bathrooms with women is going to vote democrat?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5736 on: August 23, 2024, 06:57:34 AM »

Quote from: Custard on August 22, 2024, 08:49:38 PM

I said absolutely nothing of the sort. I just said that there were other people there with other interests. I didn’t assign any level of blame to those people. Feel free to show me where I did.

You “both sidesd it” pretty firmly. Which is utter bullshit. MAGA was responsible for 1/6. Several thousand of them.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5737 on: August 23, 2024, 07:02:44 AM »

Why even bring them up if you weren’t trying to assign them at least part of the blame?

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5738 on: August 23, 2024, 07:03:49 AM »

The insinuation is that they were provocateurs.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5739 on: August 23, 2024, 10:48:13 AM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on August 22, 2024, 01:59:32 PM

Antifa in disguise.

Trump is gonna pardon Antifa! WTF!

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?

« Reply #5740 on: August 23, 2024, 10:50:31 AM »

Quote from: Custard on August 22, 2024, 02:08:02 PM

I think you’d have to be insane to think there aren’t agent provocateurs involved with just about anything like Jan 6, the GF riots, Ferguson, etc. The stakes are too big to not attempt to engineer the optics. Some are just pot stirrers or adrenaline junkies.

Agent Provocateurs satisfies Occam’s razor much more adequately than believing these are always homogeneous groups, especially when things have been escalating for weeks or months leading up to when the shit hits the fan. It’s going to attract crazies from all walks of life.

Why would anyone bother going to DC to be an "agent provacteur"? The dude with the viking hat didn't need to be prodded, nor did the rest of them.

Of course, the alternative is "Trump supporters are so fucking stupid that some antifa dude could throw on a MAGA hat and convince them to go storm the Capitol". If they are that fucking stupid, what does that say about their ability to make a good decision when voting?

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