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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #9750 on: October 30, 2026, 12:11:46 PM »
Hopefully there is no potato famine over there next year!

The main sticking point is his mother. She won’t like the idea of him going somewhere without her, and she only takes “vacations” that involve beaches and seafood.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #9751 on: October 30, 2026, 12:12:27 PM »
Why comparing it to American cities?

Is this a serious question?
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« Reply #9752 on: October 30, 2026, 12:26:51 PM »
The main sticking point is his mother. She won’t like the idea of him going somewhere without her, and she only takes “vacations” that involve beaches and seafood.

Just take the kid and go!
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« Reply #9753 on: October 30, 2026, 01:08:22 PM »
The main sticking point is his mother. She won’t like the idea of him going somewhere without her, and she only takes “vacations” that involve beaches and seafood.

Guess you've never heard of Valencia Spain. The dollar is strong right now....

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #9754 on: October 30, 2026, 02:23:00 PM »
I’ve heard of Valencia. I’ve been to Spain. But I don’t want a beach vacation. And I want her on vacation with me even less.
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« Reply #9755 on: October 30, 2026, 02:24:51 PM »
If and when I go back to Spain, Seville and Madrid will be the priority.
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« Reply #9756 on: October 30, 2026, 05:22:56 PM »
If and when I go back to Spain, Seville and Madrid will be the priority.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #9757 on: October 30, 2026, 05:35:03 PM »
Is this a serious question?

Yes. Is it really an Apples-to-Apples comparison? Shouldn't it be compared to comparable European cities?

According to the ChatGPT:

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London crime compared with other major European cities (2021–2025)
London's crime picture is more complicated than headlines suggest. It is a large, densely populated international city with substantial property crime, street theft, robbery, and violent crime. However, the most useful way to compare London with cities such as Paris, Berlin, Madrid, Rome, and Amsterdam is to separate violent crime, homicide, robbery, and property crime.

One important distinction: London does not necessarily have more crime simply because it records more offenses. European countries have different definitions of crimes, reporting practices, and police-recording systems. Per-capita rates and comparable categories are more informative than raw totals.
1. Homicide: London compares favorably with several European capitals
Homicide is generally the most reliable category for international comparisons because murders are less affected by differences in reporting and crime classification.

The following figures are reported homicide rates per 100,000 residents:
City   2024 homicide rate
London   1.2
Paris   1.4
Copenhagen   1.5
Brussels   3.2
Berlin   3.4

London's 2024 rate was lower than all four of these European cities.

The trend continued in 2025:
- London recorded 97 homicides, down from 109 in 2024.
- Its homicide rate fell to approximately 1.1 per 100,000.
- This was the lowest annual homicide total since 2014.
These figures come from the Metropolitan Police's January 2026 announcement.

2. Robbery and theft: London's more significant problem
The picture changes considerably when looking at property crime.

The Metropolitan Police identified theft and robbery as two of London's major crime challenges.

For the year ending March 2025, its reported figures included:
Crime   London rate per 1,000 residents
Theft   11.5
Robbery   3.0

The Met described London's rates as higher than those of other large cities in England and Wales.

Particularly visible problems include:
- Mobile-phone snatching, especially in central London.
- Pickpocketing in tourist areas and on public transportation.
- Shoplifting.
- Street robbery.
- Theft from vehicles.
These are important distinctions: a city can have a relatively low murder rate while still having a substantial everyday property-crime problem.

3. What has happened over the last five years?
London's crime trends have not moved uniformly.
Category   Recent trend
Homicide   Declining; 2025 was the lowest total since 2014
Violence with injury   Significant decline in 2024/25
Knife crime   Declining in the latest reporting periods
Burglary   Long-term decline
Phone theft and personal theft   Significant ongoing concern
Robbery   Recent reductions, but remains a problem
Sexual offences   Increased in the latest 2025/26 reporting period

For context, violence with injury fell 18.4% in 2024/25 and another 0.9% in 2025/26, according to London's 2026 crime report.

4. How does London compare with other European cities overall?
Here is a qualitative comparison of the main issues, rather than a misleading numerical ranking.
City   Notable crime concerns
London   Phone theft, pickpocketing, robbery, burglary
Paris   Pickpocketing, theft, robbery, violent incidents
Berlin   Theft, burglary, drug-related crime, violent crime
Brussels   Robbery, theft, violent crime
Madrid   Pickpocketing, tourist theft, robbery
Rome   Pickpocketing, tourist-targeted theft
Amsterdam   Bicycle theft, pickpocketing, drug-related crime

This is a description of commonly reported crime concerns, not a statistical ranking of these cities.

Eurostat maintains comparable city-level homicide statistics for European capitals and other major cities through 2024. It also cautions that broader police-recorded crime comparisons are affected by differences in national laws, recording practices, and reporting rates.

5. My overall assessment
I would draw three conclusions from the available statistics:

1. London is not particularly dangerous by European capital-city homicide standards. Its homicide rate is relatively low compared with Paris, Berlin, Brussels, and Copenhagen.

2. London has a more pronounced problem with street theft and robbery. This is particularly relevant to tourists, commuters, and people spending time in central London.

3. London's serious violence has generally improved over the last five years, particularly in 2024 and 2025, although not every crime category has followed that trend.

For further reference, these are useful primary sources:
- Mayor of London's State of London Crime Report (2026).
- Eurostat – Crime Statistics by European City.
- Metropolitan Police – London's 2025 Homicide Statistics.
One important qualification: I would not conclude that London has less overall crime than Paris, Berlin, Madrid, or Rome based on homicide figures alone. A proper comparison of overall crime would require harmonized victimization surveys and separate comparisons of theft, robbery, assault, and burglary.

The most defensible conclusion is that London has relatively low lethal violence compared with several major European capitals, but a substantial street-theft and robbery problem.

So, when you go over there you will have a better chance of getting robbed on the street than you would elsewhere in Europe?
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« Reply #9758 on: Today at 09:39:19 AM »
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« Reply #9759 on: Today at 10:08:33 AM »


How many golf courses do his kids own?
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« Reply #9760 on: Today at 10:24:00 AM »
You have a weird obsession with golf courses, and white Christian golfers.
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« Reply #9761 on: Today at 10:24:35 AM »


Yay more reductionist leftwing muslim memes.

The 1% pay 40% of all income tax and bottom 47% don’t pay any income tax at all.
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« Reply #9762 on: Today at 10:26:07 AM »
LOLOLOL
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« Reply #9763 on: Today at 10:31:47 AM »
Yay more reductionist leftwing muslim memes.

The 1% pay 40% of all income tax and bottom 47% don’t pay any income tax at all.

This is the quintessential Custard response. The 1% control nearly 40% of the world’s wealth, and Custard bitches about people struggling to pay bills and send their kids to college for not shouldering enough of the load.
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« Reply #9764 on: Today at 10:42:34 AM »
Garbage meme!

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