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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3495 on: September 16, 2023, 04:33:40 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 16, 2023, 04:24:16 PM
Arch Manning must be a bust since he couldn’t beat out Quinton Ewers or whatever his name is.

He's a freshman isn't it?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3496 on: September 16, 2023, 04:34:33 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 16, 2023, 04:23:32 PM
The point is it’s dumb to judge quarterbacks by what they did as 18 year olds

How about as 22 and 23 year olds?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3497 on: September 16, 2023, 04:36:38 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:33:40 PM
He's a freshman isn't it?

Yes, which is when Fields didn’t beat out Fromm.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3498 on: September 16, 2023, 04:37:22 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:34:33 PM
How about as 22 and 23 year olds?

As prospects. As pros, I’d wait until 25-26.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3499 on: September 16, 2023, 04:38:39 PM »
Literally everyone though Tua was straight trash in his 2nd year. Then he got some weapons and he’s an All-Pro candidate, when he’s not concussed.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3500 on: September 16, 2023, 04:39:35 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 16, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
Yes, which is when Fields didn’t beat out Fromm.

Was Fromm highly ranked? Burrow wasn't, we know that.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3501 on: September 16, 2023, 04:57:19 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:39:35 PM
Was Fromm highly ranked? Burrow wasn't, we know that.

Apparently.

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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3502 on: September 16, 2023, 05:05:59 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 16, 2023, 04:57:19 PM
Apparently.


Probably.  Wasn't he a game manager type at Georgia?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3503 on: September 16, 2023, 05:20:53 PM »
I’d say these are better than game manager” numbers in college.

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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3504 on: September 16, 2023, 05:29:13 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 16, 2023, 05:20:53 PM
I’d say these are better than game manager” numbers in college.



Looks that way
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3505 on: September 17, 2023, 03:47:15 PM »
12 losses in a row. But at least Eberlose didn't give up 30+ points this game. Baby steps.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3506 on: September 17, 2023, 04:13:33 PM »
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12 losses in a row. But at least Eberlose didn't give up 30+ points this game. Baby steps.

Was hoping for a nice leap, but it appears baby steps is more realistic. Not good enough up front on either side, too many self-inflicted mistakes. Too much predicability in play-calling. Looking at you, two RB screen passes in a row from the 6 Luke Getsy.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3507 on: September 17, 2023, 04:14:03 PM »
And a QB who isn’t at a place where he can elevate his teammates regularly.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3508 on: September 17, 2023, 04:28:03 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 17, 2023, 04:13:33 PM
Was hoping for a nice leap, but it appears baby steps is more realistic. Not good enough up front on either side, too many self-inflicted mistakes. Too much predicability in play-calling. Looking at you, two RB screen passes in a row from the 6 Luke Getsy.

I was being sarcastic about the baby steps. That was bad.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3509 on: September 17, 2023, 10:32:44 PM »
[quote author=Tempo34 link=topic=607.msg92511#msg92511 date=1694893752]
I think it would be nearly impossible to come up with a better pro/college parallel than Bears/Illini.
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The Illini don’t get rewarded for being terrible, which is the entire point.

Losing on purpose actively undermines the integrity of the leagues that promulgate it. It makes for a bunch of shitty games where one team isn’t even trying to win. It’s a bunch of bull shit that undermines the spirit of competition. Even the loser NFL and NBA franchises print money. I’m totally disenchanted.
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