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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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"Why include it? Patel is a Trump advisor who publicly pushed the defense that Trump had declassified the documents."

So ?
It's a search warrant affidavit.

Again. What is the point of including Patel's name, or the fact that he was quoted in a Breitbart article, in an affidavit attached to a search warrant not related to him ?

Why name the witnesses? Why name the classified documents that were previously turned over? I would imagine all that was relevant as to why they obtained the warrant -- the probable cause. That is what goes in the affidavit they present to a judge.

Gowdy didn't question why Patel was cited. It's obvious why. He questioned why Patel's name was not redacted; which is asinine.
 
Imagine this: The first batch of documents retrieved from Trump included sensitive classified material that had been sloppily handled.

Trump and aides, including  Kash Patel, put out the word that Trump had declassified the material and was entitled to keep it. That was public knowledge.

Meanwhile, confidential informants reported that more highly sensitive material remained at Trump's residence. This posed a risk to national security if it fell into the wrong hands.

It remains unknown why Trump took these documents.

All of this is in the affidavit explaining the urgent need for the search warrant. Non-public information, such as names of confidential informants, targets of the investigation, copies of secret documents,  etc were redacted when the affidavit was released. 

Information that was public knowledge was not redacted. 

That is my take. Anyone got a better one that fits the facts?
« Last Edit: August 29, 2022, 04:20:39 PM by illiniray »
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Difference between a warrant, affidavit and property receipt

Affidavit
“The affidavit is going to be that probable cause they have gained in order to be able to receive that warrant
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"Why include it? Patel is a Trump advisor who publicly pushed the defense that Trump had declassified the documents."

So ?
It's a search warrant affidavit.

Again. What is the point of including Patel's name, or the fact that he was quoted in a Breitbart article, in an affidavit attached to a search warrant not related to him ?

Context of why it is included in the affidavit in the 1st place is unclear.

You don't redact it because you are only redacting certain categories of information in the affidavit. This information did not fit one of the categories. So it is revealed.

I don't get why anyone is upset by this. Patel is not, apparently, a source. He wrote an article. The article was relied upon by the agent in making the affidavit.

Why does anyone think it should have been redacted from the affidavit?
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Gowdy is another smirker.  What the hell are his pronouns anyway? 

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And what else is publicly available from Breitbart ?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/27/whistleblower-same-fbi-boss-who-shut-down-hunter-biden-dirt-pressured-agents-juice-domestic-violence-extremism-stats/

Which includes a link to Grassley's July 25 letter to Garland and Wray requesting records, including those involving the guy running the FBI Washington field office.
Thibault was shown the exit door on Fri.
Grassley requested the information by Aug 8.
It's probably just a coincidence that the FBI, out of the Washington field office, showed up at Mar-a-Lago on Aug 8 tho.

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Breitbart is a good source to tell us what Trump and the white Nationalists are thinking. That is why it was mentioned in the affidavit. Other than that, nobody except the fringe right cares what Breitbart has to say.

The affidavit was presented to the Judge to show probable cause as to why a search warrant was needed.

The bit from Breitbart / what Patel was saying was relavant because it was evidence Trump did not intend to turn over the remaining documents.

Previous material turned over included classified documents. CIs told the FBI Trump kept very sensitive classified documents.

Kash Patel publicly stated that the material was no longer classified because Trump declassified it.

Trey Gowdy said that since the CI's names were redacted, Kash Patel's name should have been redacted. He also said Hillary should have been prosecuted for classified emails, but feels Trump is being persecuted.
That is Republican logic 

Yeah, but what about Hunter's laptop?
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Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley thinks Thibault was politically biased.
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HAHAHA, uhhhhhhhh, ok. You know when Trump lies about things? When his mouth comes open.

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Today, we learned that the FBI offered up to $1 million U.S. taxpayer dollars to a foreign spy to corroborate his dossier.
He couldn't do it.

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Today, we learned that the FBI offered up to $1 million U.S. taxpayer dollars to a foreign spy to corroborate his dossier.
He couldn't do it.

That's good! (Maybe he wanted $2m?)

Which part of the dossier? There was quite a bit of stuff in it. The Pee Tape?
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That's good! (Maybe he wanted $2m?)

Which part of the dossier? There was quite a bit of stuff in it. The Pee Tape?
There is no pee tape.

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There is no pee tape.

The golden shower tape?
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