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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #495 on: August 28, 2022, 03:02:37 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 28, 2022, 12:13:29 PM

I can't imagine nobody told the ODNI in 18 months about how bad this could* be.


Imagine this: Nobody at  NARA or other agency knew what Trump kept until they served the search warrant.

We do know that Trump took items he was supposed to turn over to NARA and has not been fully responsive to a subpoena.

It appears someone with detailed inside information recently tipped off authorities as to the nature and location of stolen documents.

Trump has claimed on social media he was and is entitled to the documents he took. 
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #496 on: August 28, 2022, 06:01:46 PM »
They're in the safe.
Cool, thanks for the info. We'll bring a safe cracker.

The safe is said to have been empty.

They were told the location of documents. That must be why the warrant involved searching everywhere, including Melania's underwear.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #497 on: August 28, 2022, 06:28:12 PM »
“The FBI moved on him like a bitch.  When you have probable cause, they let you do it.  You can do anything.  Grab ‘em by the evidence.”
#TrumpRaid
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #498 on: August 28, 2022, 06:49:20 PM »
You must be imagining something different. From what I can imagine, the FBI  imagined things only a Trump insider could have imagined, that Mick Mulvaney did not imagine. I can not imagine how anyone would imagine whether or not the safe was empty or whose drawers were sniffed. 
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #499 on: August 29, 2022, 09:42:20 AM »
I watched Trey Gowdy. He is a fairly sane conservative except when discussing Trump and Hillary. He thinks Hillary should have been prosecuted for classified emails, but Trump is being treating unfairly.

He thought all the redactions made the affidavit release useless. He was also upset that Kash Patel's name was not redacted.

At a glance, the content of classified documents and names of confidential witnesses are redacted.

The reference to Kash Patel is a quotation from a published article.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #500 on: August 29, 2022, 10:09:32 AM »
I assume you're referring to Kash Patel's name not being redacted in this published document. The affidavit.


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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #501 on: August 29, 2022, 10:54:52 AM »
Yes, Gowdy was upset that Kash Patel's name was not redacted from the released affidavit. He claimed this was a double standard. As you can see, the reference to Patel was from a public source. Redacting his name would serve no purpose. Gowdy was being a jackass.

He also compared HRC's emails to Trump's boxes of stolen documents.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #502 on: August 29, 2022, 10:56:49 AM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #503 on: August 29, 2022, 11:09:31 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 29, 2022, 10:09:32 AM
I assume you're referring to Kash Patel's name not being redacted in this published document. The affidavit.



Yes. It was cited from a published Breitbart article.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #504 on: August 29, 2022, 11:23:46 AM »
Because
'I am aware of an article published in Breibart on May 5, 2022 that characterized as "misleading" reports in other news organizations .....'
was just too fricking difficult ?

Or omit the link to the article and redact Patel's name.

What exactly was the point of including Patel's name ?
I have a feeling that Gowdy has seen a few more warrants and affidavits than you have and he's entitled to his opinion without being labeled a jackass.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #505 on: August 29, 2022, 11:27:27 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 29, 2022, 11:23:46 AM
Because
'I am aware of an article published in Breibart on May 5, 2022 that characterized as "misleading" reports in other news organizations .....'
was just too fricking difficult ?

Or omit the link to the article and redact Patel's name.

What exactly was the point of including Patel's name ?
I have a feeling that Gowdy has seen a few more warrants and affidavits than you have and he's entitled to his opinion without being labeled a jackass.

Patel is not a source, presumably, that needs to be protected this early in the investigation. Ergo, name left in the affidavit.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #506 on: August 29, 2022, 11:37:02 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 29, 2022, 11:27:27 AM
Patel is not a source, presumably, that needs to be protected this early in the investigation. Ergo, name left in the affidavit.
Let me put it another way.
What is the point of including item 53 at all ?
Patel may not be a source, but the warrant was to search Mar-a-Lago.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #507 on: August 29, 2022, 11:40:09 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 29, 2022, 11:37:02 AM
Let me put it another way.
What is the point of including item 53 at all ?
Patel may not be a source, but the warrant was to search Mar-a-Lago.

It is hard to tell the context given the redactions. But obviously the "he declassified the documents" defense was mentioned in the article and the affidavit.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #508 on: August 29, 2022, 12:17:53 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 29, 2022, 11:37:02 AM
Let me put it another way.
What is the point of including item 53 at all ?
Patel may not be a source, but the warrant was to search Mar-a-Lago.

What would be the point of redacting information that is already public knowledge?

Why include it? Patel is a Trump advisor who publicly pushed the defense that Trump had declassified the documents.

My only point is Gowdy was being disingenuous suggesting info already widely available to the public should be redacted.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #509 on: August 29, 2022, 02:39:13 PM »
"Why include it? Patel is a Trump advisor who publicly pushed the defense that Trump had declassified the documents."

So ?
It's a search warrant affidavit.

Again. What is the point of including Patel's name, or the fact that he was quoted in a Breitbart article, in an affidavit attached to a search warrant not related to him ?

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