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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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murphstahoe

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Is it just me, or did Megyn Kelly get a bit sexier the last few days?

https://x.com/popularliberal/status/2042370817367888090?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Just wants more clicks. You gave them to her

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This is ag. The smart ones buy fuel and fertilizer before the season when begins. Fill the tanks all the way up and when they refill them it’s at the locked in price they bought it at this winter when it was at a multi year low.


If Farmers have the money to pre buy diesel and fertilizer, and stockpile them somewhere on their property, then I think we need to completely rethink any "making them whole" that the Trump administration has said regarding tariffs. They are pretty rich so they don't need the help.

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This is probably the "smart farmer" that Custard refers to. He was in the files, after all.

Bill Gates is widely recognized as the top private owner of farmland in the United States, with an estimated 242,000 to 275,000 acres of agricultural land spread across roughly 18 to 19 states as of early 2026. His holdings are largely managed through his firm, Cascade Investment

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Just wants more clicks. You gave them to her

I was thinking it was another one of his "metaphors."
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

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Custard

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About?

He’s doing the same exact thing you’re accusing Mn of.
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Is it just me, or did Megyn Kelly get a bit sexier the last few days?

https://x.com/popularliberal/status/2042370817367888090?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

I thought she was way hot like 15 years ago.

Haha what media is worshipping Trump?
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I thought she was way hot like 15 years ago.

Haha what media is worshipping Trump?

She isn’t quite Ann Coulter but trending that direction

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He’s doing the same exact thing you’re accusing Mn of.

Explain.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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If Farmers have the money to pre buy diesel and fertilizer, and stockpile them somewhere on their property, then I think we need to completely rethink any "making them whole" that the Trump administration has said regarding tariffs. They are pretty rich so they don't need the help.

Since your wife’s family is so intimate with farming I figured you would know how this works.

Even smaller grain farms are multi-million dollar businesses. Their largest costs are land and inputs. Farmers are price takers, not price makers. If fertilizer and chem goes up, they don’t get to ask Cargill or ADM to give them an extra dollar a bushel to make up for it. They have to sell it at what the market is willing to pay for it. So one of the biggest controllable profitability  factors for them is keeping input costs as low as possible.

There are several mechanisms to make this happen:

Traditionally speaking, most input suppliers offer aggressive cash discounts for orders placed and paid for in the fall. Seed, fertilizer, etc. Our company, for instance, offers a 15% cash discount if paid by Nov 15, and three different 0% financing options that take the payment date out to December 2026 or January 2027.

Sure, some big affluent farms will stroke a check in the fall with no problem. But most will put these on their operating line of credit or on vendor financing because the discount more than offsets the cost of the carrying interest.

Another mechanism is that a lot of ag retailers (Growmark, etc) offer bundle discounts for seed/chem/fuel wherein farmers can purchase their entire input package at a bundled discount, with generous carrying terms or cash discounts.

Most farmers had the majority of their input decisions for the 2027 crop year made before the calendar even flipped to 2026. I would admit that more farmers than normal have been waiting to make those decisions the last few years because of tax concerns—they had plenty of expenses against income so they are waiting to put more of their expenses in the coming tax year, so they book after Jan 1.

I don’t know how many times I have heard the line, “I’m glad I priced all my fuel this winter when it was dirt cheap” the last 40 days, but it’s a lot. Successful farmers are educated businessmen, not hayseeds just going with the flow.

No good businessman is going to just sit around and expose themselves to the risk of spot pricing one of their key inputs all spring. They have all this shit locked down well in advance so they can calculate a marketing plan to reward the CBOT when the price of their crops exceeds their cost of production.

These random nameless faceless farmers that these biased social media posts are clearly hobby farmers that aren’t doing it for a living or for a family legacy. They work a job in town, the farm is secondary, and they aren’t hedging their costs in a way that gives them the best chance to make a profit. And, coincidentally, that are the very type of farmer that is getting by on subsidies, which you hate.

So yeah, go ahead and pull the subsidies. Wanna know what happens next? Rampant, uncontrolled consolidation of American farms. The rich will get richer and every state will be farmed by a handful of giant corporate farms like Dowsons in central Illinois. (our largest customer)
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This is probably the "smart farmer" that Custard refers to. He was in the files, after all.

Bill Gates is widely recognized as the top private owner of farmland in the United States, with an estimated 242,000 to 275,000 acres of agricultural land spread across roughly 18 to 19 states as of early 2026. His holdings are largely managed through his firm, Cascade Investment

More detrimental info in the files about Gates than Trump, for sure, but confident his knowledge of farming is about as genuine as his concerns about vaccinations. If there’s ever someone who was set on eugenics, it’s that guy.

My brother works for Microsoft though. Maybe he can hook us up with 10k acres to farm for fun. The IlliniHQ2 Utopian Commune. Tempo can be the first Grand Puba. Just don’t drink the Kool Aid, it’s spiked with Iranium.
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I will admit, nothing makes me harder than when Custard gets into the finer details of farming.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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I keep getting told that I’m way out of pocket for calling this administration fascist, but…

Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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Don’t worry Mn, I did the research so you don’t have to. Appears this “source” is acceptable.

Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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I keep getting told that I’m way out of pocket for calling this administration fascist, but…



Ok so who is to say this isn’t completely made up? Who is this guy and what is his credibility? You have any reason to believe he’s really plugged into the Vatican?

The easiest and most profitable clicks in the entire world right now are created by people drumming up literally anything they can about Trump. When something is both easy and profitable, it will attract all sorts of trash. Can’t imagine how many bot farms are printing money getting clicks from guys like Tempo right now.  Think about that for a second. Or many seconds.
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Since your wife’s family is so intimate with farming I figured you would know how this works.

Even smaller grain farms are multi-million dollar businesses. Their largest costs are land and inputs. Farmers are price takers, not price makers.

So yeah, go ahead and pull the subsidies. Wanna know what happens next? Rampant, uncontrolled consolidation of American farms. The rich will get richer and every state will be farmed by a handful of giant corporate farms like Dowsons in central Illinois. (our largest customer)
Why would they have to consolidate if they are multi-million dollar businesses?

You got one thing right. The farmers are takers