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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6855 on: November 08, 2025, 06:04:54 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 07, 2025, 11:44:30 AM
An AI fueled mass layoff could lead to more leisure for more people to pursue things like the fine arts, yoga, blue sky research, travel, reading, gardening, cooking ...

We need to dump the out dated work ethic model and come up with an equitable wealth distribution model. National health insurance, a reverse tax guaranteed income, ...


Hahaha riiiiiiight I’m sure that’s how this is going to go.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6856 on: November 08, 2025, 08:30:01 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 08, 2025, 05:07:47 PM
AI Overview

It is true that the Trump administration, through Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Director Russell Vought, canceled billions of dollars in clean energy and climate-related project funding that primarily affected states that voted for Democrats. The administration explicitly targeted these "blue states" and framed the cuts as canceling "Green New Scam funding".

Key details regarding the funding cuts:

Amount: Approximately $7.6 billion to $8 billion in Department of Energy (DOE) clean energy grants were initially canceled.

Targeting of "Blue States": Vought announced the cuts on social media, listing 16 states that had not voted for Donald Trump in the 2024 election as the targets. All affected states had voted for the Democratic presidential candidate.

Projects Affected: The cuts impacted a wide range of projects, including battery plants, grid upgrades, carbon capture facilities, hydrogen hubs, and university research work.
 
 Impact on "Red States": While the bulk of the cuts targeted "blue states," some projects within Republican-led states or districts were also affected as they were part of larger regional initiatives.

Political Motivation: Democrats and some political analysts described the move as a "shameless and vindictive political attack" designed to punish political opponents. Vought also subsequently announced freezes on other infrastructure projects in various "blue" cities and states.

The legality of these actions, which occurred during a government shutdown in October 2025, has been challenged by state officials and legal experts, who argue that the President lacks the unilateral authority to withhold congressionally appropriated funds without legislative approval.

So cuts were made to red states and red districts. Cool.
About 40% of the funds were doled out to states that voted for Harris by the who knows who made the decision administration after Harris lost the election.
The Trump administration has referred to the awards as "rushed through in the final months of the Biden administration with inadequate documentation by any reasonable business standard,”

Democrats like to use the word "retribution" as an argument lately.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6857 on: November 08, 2025, 08:48:10 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 08, 2025, 08:30:01 PM
So cuts were made to red states and red districts. Cool.
About 40% of the funds were doled out to states that voted for Harris by the who knows who made the decision administration after Harris lost the election.
The Trump administration has referred to the awards as "rushed through in the final months of the Biden administration with inadequate documentation by any reasonable business standard,”

Democrats like to use the word "retribution" as an argument lately.

Wrong damned post quoted
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6858 on: November 08, 2025, 10:09:08 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 08, 2025, 08:30:01 PM
So cuts were made to red states and red districts. Cool.


Stop it.  There was unavoidable collateral damage. Red states and red districts were not targeted. There was no equivalency.

Impact on "Red States": While the bulk of the cuts targeted "blue states," some projects within Republican-led states or districts were also affected as they were part of larger regional initiatives.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6859 on: November 09, 2025, 06:39:35 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 08, 2025, 10:09:08 PM
Stop it.  There was unavoidable collateral damage. Red states and red districts were not targeted. There was no equivalency.

Impact on "Red States": While the bulk of the cuts targeted "blue states," some projects within Republican-led states or districts were also affected as they were part of larger regional initiatives.
Stop it. The cuts were a result of a policy change and targeted awards "rushed through in the final months of the Biden administration with inadequate documentation by any reasonable business standard,”

Border control was a change in policy upon Biden's inauguration and Trump's 1st and 2nd inaugurations also.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6860 on: November 09, 2025, 02:54:58 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 09, 2025, 06:39:35 AM
Stop it. The cuts were a result of a policy change and targeted awards "rushed through in the final months of the Biden administration with inadequate documentation by any reasonable business standard,”

Border control was a change in policy upon Biden's inauguration and Trump's 1st and 2nd inaugurations also.
Stop it. The cuts were just to block the release of the Epstein files
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6861 on: November 09, 2025, 09:16:10 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 09, 2025, 06:39:35 AM
Stop it. The cuts were a result of a policy change and targeted awards "rushed through in the final months of the Biden administration with inadequate documentation by any reasonable business standard,”


It was thoroughly vetted.

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"Also on Wednesday, the Trump administration froze $18 billion in infrastructure funding for New York City, home to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, both Democrats. Vought announced the funding freeze in a post on X.

Vought "has been dreaming about this moment, preparing [for] this moment since puberty," Sen. Mike Lee, a Republican from Utah, said on Fox News. "Russ Vought has a plan, and that plan is going to succeed in empowering, further empowering Trump. This is going to be the Democrats' worst nightmare," Lee said."

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/02/nx-s1-5560869/energy-trump-democrats-shutdown
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6862 on: November 09, 2025, 09:34:44 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 09, 2025, 09:16:10 PM
It was thoroughly vetted.

More:

"Also on Wednesday, the Trump administration froze $18 billion in infrastructure funding for New York City, home to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, both Democrats. Vought announced the funding freeze in a post on X.

Vought "has been dreaming about this moment, preparing [for] this moment since puberty," Sen. Mike Lee, a Republican from Utah, said on Fox News. "Russ Vought has a plan, and that plan is going to succeed in empowering, further empowering Trump. This is going to be the Democrats' worst nightmare," Lee said."

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/02/nx-s1-5560869/energy-trump-democrats-shutdown
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6863 on: November 10, 2025, 07:42:42 AM »
The CEO of Britain's government funded BBC News resigns after the BBC acknowledges fudging a video for a documentary they ran before a U.S. Presidential election.

The ex-CEO of news is apparently thankful that there are at least 1-2 decision influencing employees in the BBC who may disagree with the rot at the top and wants everyone to know that "recent allegations that BBC News is institutionally biased are wrong."

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6864 on: November 10, 2025, 08:03:45 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 10, 2025, 07:42:42 AM
The CEO of Britain's government funded BBC News resigns after the BBC acknowledges fudging a video for a documentary they ran before a U.S. Presidential election.

The ex-CEO of news is apparently thankful that there are at least 1-2 decision influencing employees in the BBC who may disagree with the rot at the top and wants everyone to know that "recent allegations that BBC News is institutionally biased are wrong."

Can just move over to MSNBC
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6865 on: November 10, 2025, 08:42:43 AM »
This would be July 1, 2024. Correct ?



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Less than 2 weeks later there was an assassination attempt.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6866 on: November 10, 2025, 08:57:03 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 10, 2025, 07:42:42 AM
The CEO of Britain's government funded BBC News resigns after the BBC acknowledges fudging a video for a documentary they ran before a U.S. Presidential election.

The ex-CEO of news is apparently thankful that there are at least 1-2 decision influencing employees in the BBC who may disagree with the rot at the top and wants everyone to know that "recent allegations that BBC News is institutionally biased are wrong."
This is the whole story. Seems relatively minor. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mx28vlp4wo
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6867 on: November 10, 2025, 09:01:40 AM »
But this administration isn’t racist.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #6868 on: November 10, 2025, 09:11:20 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 10, 2025, 08:57:03 AM
This is the whole story. Seems relatively minor. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mx28vlp4wo
Lofl. A half hearted damage control article by the government funded BBC

"Deborah Turness, whose salary was between £430,000 and £434,999, had been the CEO of BBC News since 2022, overseeing news and current affairs programmes.

Her role has responsibility for a team of about 6,000 people, broadcasting to audiences of almost half a billion across the world, in more than 40 languages.

It is both seismic and unprecedented for both of them to quit the corporation at the same time, says BBC Culture and Media editor Katie Razzall."

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« Reply #6869 on: November 10, 2025, 10:26:36 AM »
Quote from: Montez Sweat on November 10, 2025, 09:01:40 AM
But this administration isn’t racist.


Correct
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