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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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If I get this timeline right, that makes you a lawbreaking scum for several years.

Illinois decriminalized in 2016, and it was decriminalized in Chicago for years before that. Usually when I’d partake it was usually with my buddy that lives in Portage Park and coincidentally also sold me the weed.
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According to the daily mail, Fauci's deal ended September 30.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14214841/anthony-fauci-private-security-doge-tax-fund.html

According to CNN, Trump defended his decision to pull Fauci's security detail.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/24/politics/video/anthony-fauci-security-detail-trump-digvid

That's what I said. Sept 30.

Re CNN .....
If the NIH, a government agency, is providing private security for a private person at taxpayer expense would you prefer a stop be put to the practice or let it continue ?
If it's not allowed to continue then Trump doesn't need to defend anything, he's not pulling security if he's telling the NIH can not continue the practice.
Or would you want all governmental agencies paying for private security with taxpayer money for the employees as a nice little retirement perk ?
« Last Edit: January 25, 2025, 03:29:01 PM by No one in Mn »

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That's what I said. Sept 30.

It appears someone forgot to tell Trump.
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It’s effective because lots of people believe it

Lots of people believe this is the Illini's year doesn't mean it's true

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Illinois decriminalized in 2016, and it was decriminalized in Chicago for years before that. Usually when I’d partake it was usually with my buddy that lives in Portage Park and coincidentally also sold me the weed.

Was he properly filed with the state and had revenue stamps, paying his taxes? Was he sourcing the weed legally?

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Yes I checked his business license.
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It appears someone forgot to tell Trump.
You should be more concerned with the NIH using taxpayer funding to provide security to a private individual rather than Biden extending his protection.

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You should be more concerned with the NIH using taxpayer funding to provide security to a private individual rather than Biden extending his protection.

I don't need you to tell me what I should be concerned about it.

The earlier Daily Mail article indicated it was "a memorandum of understanding between the U.S. Marshals and the Department of Health and Human Services"
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I don't need you to tell me what I should be concerned about it.

The earlier Daily Mail article indicated it was "a memorandum of understanding between the U.S. Marshals and the Department of Health and Human Services"
And if you click on the link in the Daily Mail article you will get the same government document that I had previously posted.
Thanks for the article tho.

A FOIA request may dig up the contract that allows for taxpayer funds to be used by the NIH for the private security company to provide security to the private citizen.
Nonetheless, the NIH security perk came to an end with the change in Presidency.
Did the NIH stop the security when Trump nominated one of those "fringe epidemiologists" to head the NIH ?

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Going to guess private security is cheaper. Why he should have security is another story
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I need a fact check on this!

First Trump posted this:



Then this happened:




After which Trump posted this:





How can anyone not love this guy?
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😂 thats awesome
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I guess if you are a fan of bully tactics and humiliating people; then you would love Trump.

From what I can gather, Colombian President Gustavo Petro only objected to the use of military planes and shackles. He wanted civilian airlines and the migrants to be treated with dignity. Trump responded with nastiness and intimidation tactics to force Petro into compliance. Trump conflates this with respect.

I doubt this is over. Petro plans to meet with Trump..I am drinking coffee as I type this. Anyone want to see a huge tariff on coffee beans?
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BFD. I'll buy Guatemalan beans. I hear Guatamala needs money.

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Behind the Colombia Blowup: Mapping Trump’s Rapid-Escalation Tactics
There were no Situation Room meetings and no quiet calls to de-escalate a dispute with an ally. Just threats, counter threats, surrender and an indication of the president’s approach to Greenland and Panama.

By David E. Sanger
David E. Sanger has covered five American presidents and recently wrote a book on the future of superpower conflict.

Jan. 27, 2025
Updated 2:51 p.m. ET

In the end it took only about 12 hours for President Trump’s first head-to-head confrontation with one of the United States’ closest allies in Latin America, a blowup over Colombia’s rejection of U.S. military flights to return illegal immigrants, to result in a complete retreat by the target of Mr. Trump’s threats.

It wasn’t much of a contest. Colombia depends on the United States for more than a quarter of its exports. And while the specifics of the dispute will probably be quickly forgotten, the rapid-fire threat by Mr. Trump to impose crushing tariffs, and the quick surrender by President Gustavo Petro, are likely to encourage Mr. Trump as he contemplates how to make use of the same weapon against new targets.

There is little mystery about who he has in mind: Denmark, whose prime minister told him Greenland was not for sale during a heated, expletive-filled conversation almost two weeks ago, and Panama, where Secretary of State Marco Rubio is supposed to land in a few days to demand it return control of the Panama Canal to the United States — the country that built it, 120 years ago.

Welcome to the age of what Fred Kempe, the president of the Atlantic Council, a Washington think tank, characterized as the era of “more mercantilism, less free trade and more big-power swagger.”

The Sunday diplomatic debacle with Colombia had elements of all three. But it was also instructive about how foreign-policy decision-making in the Trump White House happens: There were no policy papers, or Situation Room meetings to weigh options, or talk of a quiet mission to de-escalate tensions with an ally whose cooperation America needs on a variety of problems. That would be how a dispute over returning Colombians, deported because they were in the United States illegally, would be resolved in an ordinary presidency, whether the president was a Democrat or Republican.

In this case, perhaps there wasn’t much need for internal debate: Colombia is not China, or Russia, or even North Korea and Iran, all countries that have ways to strike back at the United States or its interests. So it was an easy target — and a relatively cost-free place for Mr. Trump to make a point about how he envisions the use of American power.

There was no such process in this case — and no time for such a process. It unfolded first on social media, with an angry post by Mr. Petro declaring that he would not allow the United States to land military aircraft in his country bearing shackled Colombian returnees. “I cannot make migrants stay in a country that does not want them,” Mr. Petro wrote, “but if that country sends them back, it should be with dignity and respect for them and for our country.”

Mr. Trump shot back on Truth Social — where he puts pronouncements before they are released by the White House press office (which catches up by citing the Truth Social posts) — demanding that Mr. Petro get out of his way or watch his economy be crushed. He vowed to impose 25 percent tariffs on Colombian exports right away, which would obviously affect the crude oil, coal and coffee industries. The tariffs would double if Mr. Petro didn’t fold on the issue within a week, Mr. Trump said. For good measure he called the Colombian president a “socialist,” which Mr. Petro would freely admit.

What happened next was fascinating: Mr. Petro briefly fought back, announcing his own tariffs on American imports and accusing Mr. Trump of trying to topple his democratically elected government. “You don’t like our freedom, fine,” Mr. Petro wrote. “I do not shake hands with white enslavers.”

There was a lot of history here, of course. One hundred twenty-two years ago, the United States supported a Panamanian revolution against Colombia, knowing it would speed the way to building the canal. It is an era Mr. Trump keeps talking about wistfully.

Presumably, Mr. Petro looked at his chances of coming out on top of this conflict and decided it was zero. And he quickly decided his best course was to get out of Mr. Trump’s way. The military flights could resume, his foreign ministry announced. There were more words about demanding that the passengers be treated with dignity, but clearly that was not enforceable. The United States suspended the tariff increases before they happened, and Mr. Rubio said that visa restrictions on Colombian leadership would remain until the planes actually landed.

So when the day was over, not much had changed. Mr. Petro had turned away some flights, Mr. Trump had threatened retaliation, Mr. Petro had folded, and the status quo had largely resumed.

But to anyone trying to figure out the next moves on the part of the Trump administration, there were a lot of indicators in this blowup about where things may be headed.

Start with Denmark, whose prime minister, Mette Frederiksen, had a fraught, aggressive conversation with Mr. Trump just five days before he was inaugurated. Having heard his threat that he might use military or economic coercion to get his way on Greenland and the Panama Canal, she opened with ideas about how the United States could expand its existing military presence in Greenland — there is a Space Force base there — and help exploit its considerable mineral resources. Mr. Trump wasn’t interested in cooperation; he wanted control, perhaps ownership, and seemed happy to encourage a movement in Greenland to seek independence from Denmark to get there.

It was a remarkable exchange. Denmark is, after all, a NATO ally, and over the past month Mr. Trump has talked about using all the elements of American power — economic and military — to reach the goal of forcing it to surrender territory. If ever there was an example of how Mr. Trump is uninterested in maintaining the post-World War II “rules-based order” and replacing it with superpower politics, this was it.

Denmark “would have been eager to negotiate with the Americans on basing rights, resource development, Arctic security coordination and whatever else the Trump Administration wanted,” Ian Bremmer, who heads the Eurasia Group consultancy, wrote on Monday morning. “It’s now more likely that Greenland will vote for independence in an upcoming referendum, creating its own security deal with the Americans, critically undermining U.S. relations with Denmark and, with it, the Nordic Bloc.”

And then there is Panama, getting ready to receive Mr. Rubio. Usually a secretary of state’s first visit is all about reaffirming alliances and looking forward to years of cooperation. Mr. Rubio’s arrival will probably include some of that — and a demand that the Panama Canal Treaty be scrapped and the arrangement go back to what Theodore Roosevelt had in mind in 1903: American control.

David E. Sanger covers the Trump administration and a range of national security issues. He has been a Times journalist for more than four decades and has written four books on foreign policy and national security challenges.

Behind the Colombia Blowup: Mapping Trump’s Rapid-Escalation Tactics https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/us/politics/trump-colombia-tariffs-deportation-flights.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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