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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4710 on: April 30, 2025, 11:31:59 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 30, 2025, 09:52:16 AM
She certainly does

Feels like a time for Tucker Max's most famous quote.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4711 on: April 30, 2025, 11:37:40 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 30, 2025, 07:30:52 AM
That's a nice opening paragraph he's got there.
But I do enjoy when the writer saves the disclaimer for the last paragraph. Or in this case, the final sentence.

"Trump promised to unleash American energy. However, the president's heavy-handed, protectionist approach to trade and domestic production in his first 100 days could end up setting American energy back."

You are taking the word could as a disclaimer?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4712 on: April 30, 2025, 12:10:20 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 30, 2025, 11:31:25 AM
That appears to me. Good post too. What is your point?
The point is that the one immigrant who rapes and murders a U.S. citizen didn't appear to be part of a 'one is too many' argument on your part.
Instead, that person became the "scapegoat" in the leap to "Because all migrants who commit petty crimes are likely to commit murder."

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4713 on: April 30, 2025, 12:16:19 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 30, 2025, 12:10:20 PM
"Because all migrants who commit petty crimes are likely to commit murder."

Well, that's true, amirite?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4714 on: April 30, 2025, 12:19:46 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 30, 2025, 11:37:40 AM
You are taking the word could as a disclaimer?


I could have said he's just tossing shit out but ends with 'but I don't know what is going to happen.'
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4715 on: April 30, 2025, 12:39:41 PM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4716 on: April 30, 2025, 01:25:10 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 30, 2025, 12:19:46 PM
I could have said he's just tossing shit out but ends with 'but I don't know what is going to happen.'

Maybe you should try reading for content and context instead of trying to read something in that isn't there. I interpret could more of a conditional; if Trump's protectionist policies continue.

Do you have any thoughts on the content other than parsing the meaning of could?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4717 on: April 30, 2025, 01:43:38 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 30, 2025, 12:10:20 PM
The point is that the one immigrant who rapes and murders a U.S. citizen didn't appear to be part of a 'one is too many' argument on your part.
Instead, that person became the "scapegoat" in the leap to "Because all migrants who commit petty crimes are likely to commit murder."

Those are two completely different contexts.

If one white male socially conservative Republican molests a little boy; that is one too many. When that happens, there is admittedly a temptation to paint all Republicans as pedophiles, but that would obviously be unfair.

In the case I noted, immigrants in general, especially unlawful immigrants, become scapegoats for the misdeeds of the few.

One unlawful immigrant who commits a brutal murder is one too many, but that should not reflect on other immigrants, lawful or unlawful.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4718 on: April 30, 2025, 04:59:26 PM »
Trump is a leader in many ways.

I have seen Jensen speak hundreds of times. Trump is the first person to fall asleep while Jensen holds court

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4719 on: April 30, 2025, 06:28:49 PM »
That ABC interview is so bad, I am starting to think this is just someone on his staff pulling the strings with some bizarro elder abuse.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4720 on: April 30, 2025, 09:46:52 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 30, 2025, 01:25:10 PM
Maybe you should try reading for content and context instead of trying to read something in that isn't there. I interpret could more of a conditional; if Trump's protectionist policies continue.

Do you have any thoughts on the content other than parsing the meaning of could?
Actually I did comment on the content. And I read what was there.
The 1st sentence isn't a good way to open an opinion piece.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4721 on: April 30, 2025, 11:08:42 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 30, 2025, 09:46:52 PM
Actually I did comment on the content. And I read what was there.
The 1st sentence isn't a good way to open an opinion piece.

i disagree. I thought it was a great first sentence.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4722 on: April 30, 2025, 11:38:43 PM »
Trump Admin is lying about who, how how many is / are being deported..

https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/local-legal-migrant-19-being-deported-to-mexico/


Judge says 2-year-old US citizen appears to have been deported with ‘no meaningful process’
The girl was deported Friday with her mother to Honduras, despite her father’s efforts to keep her in the United States.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631

White House touts nearly 140,000 deportations, but data says roughly half actually deported
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/28/trump-100-days-touts-deportation-surge/83280907007/

https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/immigration/numbers-show-no-mass-deportation-of-migrants-despite-trump-immigration-crackdown


U.S. citizen children, including 4-year-old with cancer, taken to Honduras on mother's deportation flight, legal advocates say.

Two siblings, ages 4 and 7, were flown out of the U.S. on their mother’s deportation flight before attorneys could reach them, according to the National Immigration Project.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/two-children-us-citizens-4-and-7-year-old-deported-honduras-rcna203208
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4723 on: May 01, 2025, 08:24:21 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 30, 2025, 11:38:43 PM
Trump Admin is lying about who, how how many is / are being deported..

https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/local-legal-migrant-19-being-deported-to-mexico/


Judge says 2-year-old US citizen appears to have been deported with ‘no meaningful process’
The girl was deported Friday with her mother to Honduras, despite her father’s efforts to keep her in the United States.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631

White House touts nearly 140,000 deportations, but data says roughly half actually deported
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/28/trump-100-days-touts-deportation-surge/83280907007/

https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/immigration/numbers-show-no-mass-deportation-of-migrants-despite-trump-immigration-crackdown


U.S. citizen children, including 4-year-old with cancer, taken to Honduras on mother's deportation flight, legal advocates say.

Two siblings, ages 4 and 7, were flown out of the U.S. on their mother’s deportation flight before attorneys could reach them, according to the National Immigration Project.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/two-children-us-citizens-4-and-7-year-old-deported-honduras-rcna203208
Read the Politico article again with this in mind.

"In the State of Louisiana, if the parents are not married, all of the rights belong to the mother. An unmarried father does not have any legal rights to custody or visitation."

And the government has said that the child can return to the U.S. at any time. And that the sole person with custody rights wanted to not be separated from her daughter.

Yeah, Politico before the election ...
"Joe Biden called the policy “criminal.” Attorney General Merrick Garland said that he couldn’t “imagine anything worse.” Democrats promised an investigation in the Senate that would hold government officials “responsible for the fundamental human rights violations that they perpetrated.”

The conspicuous displays of moral outrage all concerned one of the most appalling initiatives of the Trump administration — splitting migrant children from their parents — but years later, the political and legal landscape looks very different."
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/28/trump-immigration-family-separation-00185512

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4724 on: May 01, 2025, 09:12:27 AM »
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