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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4680 on: April 28, 2025, 11:24:26 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on April 28, 2025, 11:19:06 PM
FLORIDA MAN LOSES CANADIAN ELECTION!

Are you STILL getting trolled by the 51st state shit?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4681 on: April 29, 2025, 12:54:15 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 28, 2025, 11:22:01 PM
While this is some fine and good goalpost moving, it was *supposed* to be a coin flip election and it was anything but. Presidential elections aren’t settled with reductive “didn’t earn majority of votes” arguments. Just like election results, the electoral college matters. The Democrats made several crucial mistakes and lost the election. Murph is playing the race card, you’re playing the “well if we did our elections different maybe this wouldn’t have happened” card. Who you crappin?

My point is Trump is overplaying his hand. I know how Presidential elections are won, but popular mandates come from people, not land.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4682 on: April 29, 2025, 12:57:31 AM »
Back in the day, old people were put in nursing homes. Now they are transitioned to assisted living.

 Trump's new anti-woke branch of the  civil rights division of the Dept of Justice is going to put a stop to this shit.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4683 on: April 29, 2025, 07:28:01 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 29, 2025, 12:54:15 AM
My point is Trump is overplaying his hand. I know how Presidential elections are won, but popular mandates come from people, not land.

Kicking out illegals seems popular except for the due process part. Needs to kick out more terrorism supporters and Progrsssives. Ship Ihlan Omar off to El Salvador.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4684 on: April 29, 2025, 10:02:31 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 28, 2025, 11:24:26 PM
Are you STILL getting trolled by the 51st state shit?

I see Karma took a little trip to the Great White North, eh?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4685 on: April 29, 2025, 11:42:30 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 28, 2025, 10:50:26 PM
Kamala is for they/them, Trump is for you.  Great ad. She had no comeback because she is a lightweight flip flopper.

She sucked. For a brief moment some thought that debate was a win - it was a loss. Nobody cared about that shit that she snarked on him - his crowd size etc.... all that did was piss off his base.

Somewhere in that debate she referred to tariffs as a sales tax. That's correct, not the best framing, but that attack she let him beat back with his bullshit and they moved on.

Probably any democratic candidate makes the same mistake because ripping on his personality flaws and racism and misogyny and bullying is just so easy. But it amounts to nothing. But a white guy still probably wins on the margins.

While there are some good democratic candidates for 2028, I will still say this bullshit is on them for not entering a primary against Biden. Especially Newsom. That guy has wanted to be President since he popped out of mama's womb and he decided toeing the party line and letting the old guy run again was the best plan? wtf
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4686 on: April 29, 2025, 11:48:26 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 28, 2025, 11:10:15 PM
This is a pretty damn good post, just don’t forget Trump still has all the levers. The wait and see crowd is on shaky ground, but he could make the DJI/S&P go up 10% in a week’s trading just by saying the right things. But don’t expect Murph or Jobu to come in here bragging about their gains if it does.

Shit, if he can make our stock go back to 150, I'll send him a check. But he can't do that. Jensen can maybe do that, but Trump is doing his best to drive it to 80.

Even if Trump "says the right things" that drives it up 10% in a week, eventually the trend over a year, a presidency, a decade - is about earnings, not feels. He has fucked up a lot of shit, permanently. A lot of companies are just completely fucked. Here's a list...

Tesla. We know this story
Cruise lines shipping out of FLA. Europeans are so pissed at the US, they ain't coming.
Small businesses relying on chinese imports with small margins
Walmart. Maybe Home Depot. Amazon.

The level of fucked varies. Walmart isn't going anywhere, but you chop their earnings by 10%, the stock is going down, not up.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4687 on: April 29, 2025, 11:49:44 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 29, 2025, 12:54:15 AM
My point is Trump is overplaying his hand. I know how Presidential elections are won, but popular mandates come from people, not land.

Trump is playing a hand?

You say that like he has some plan, and isn't just a random number generator.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4688 on: April 29, 2025, 12:47:34 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 29, 2025, 11:48:26 AM
Shit, if he can make our stock go back to 150, I'll send him a check. But he can't do that. Jensen can maybe do that, but Trump is doing his best to drive it to 80.

Even if Trump "says the right things" that drives it up 10% in a week, eventually the trend over a year, a presidency, a decade - is about earnings, not feels. He has fucked up a lot of shit, permanently. A lot of companies are just completely fucked. Here's a list...

Tesla. We know this story
Cruise lines shipping out of FLA. Europeans are so pissed at the US, they ain't coming.
Small businesses relying on chinese imports with small margins
Walmart. Maybe Home Depot. Amazon.

The level of fucked varies. Walmart isn't going anywhere, but you chop their earnings by 10%, the stock is going down, not up.

Let’s add to your list:

FedEx, UPS, and DHL.  Layoffs due to decreased orders from online retailers and depressed consumer spending.  These shipping companies do not wait for the losses to occur. They predict the future and act now to avoid losing money.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-job-cuts-layoffs-amazon-shipments-stock-price/

U.S. Farmers.  Don’t worry, be happy.  You’re going to get a SocialisMAGA bailout from Team Trump.  Oink! Oink!.  Fewer zeroes for family farmers, lots of bonus zeroes for BIG AG.
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/27/farm-tariffs-bailout-trump-china

Truckers who drive imported goods all over the country.  If you're not unloading ships, you're not loading trucks or train cars.  And so, truckers aren't driving, and they aren't getting paid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trucking-industry-hits-brakes-tariffs-set-dent-imports-rcna202444

Sinking Consumer Confidence.  Having a massive sales tax imposed on many goods and having one's 401k shrink tends to do that.  A consumer not having confidence will now be prosecuted by Pam Bondi as a hostile act.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/economy/us-consumer-confidence-april/index.html

Apparently, casinos aren’t the only thing that Trump drives under.  Think of it as creative destruction freeing up resources and labor to more productive use.  The invisible hand of the market - certainly preparing the landscape for the impending MAGA Tariff Boon!

I’m glad I’m not a 30-year old trying to make it in this brave new world.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4689 on: April 29, 2025, 12:53:41 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on April 29, 2025, 12:47:34 PM
I’m glad I’m not a 30-year old trying to make it in this brave new world.

Good thing our resident senior citizens Mn and Custard are happy they don't care about 30 year olds
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4690 on: April 29, 2025, 01:57:33 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 29, 2025, 11:49:44 AM
Trump is playing a hand?

You say that like he has some plan, and isn't just a random number generator.

I assume you've heard of Project 2025? There is way too much for me to keep up with, but:

*The Trump Administration is dismantling and repurposing the Dept of Education, the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ, USAID, etc.

*Trump declared English ss the official language, government forms to be printed in English only.

*Trump is  attempting to declare an end to birthright citizenship.

*ICE is deporting American Citizens and Legal Permanent Residents without adequate due process.

*ICE is sending unlawful immigrants with no significant criminal records to a notorious prison in EL Salvador

*Foreign sutudents were having visas revoked for things like traffic offenses and parking tickets

*The Trump Administration is routinely ignoring or intentionally misreading Court orders.

*Trump is insulting and alienating our traditional allies. His trade policies are intentionally disrupting global supply chains.

*Raving lunatics are running federal  law enforcement

Trump himself may just be along for the ride but people like Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, Tom Homan and so on have an end game.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2025, 09:40:48 PM by illiniray »
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« Reply #4691 on: April 29, 2025, 02:30:24 PM »
I don't agree with The Manhattan Institute on much, but they have this sort of right.

They acknowledge that the benefits of global  free trade weren't shared by all. However, they seem to oppose "Trump’s tariff policies—including the  troubling invocation of emergency powers to implement them" which they say "reflect a revolutionary impulse more commonly associated with anti-establishment movements on the left."

Trump’s Tariffs Are a Self-Inflicted Political Wound
The president’s trade agenda abandons conservative caution in favor of economic disruption.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/trump-tariffs-trade-manufacturing-economy-conservatism
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4692 on: April 29, 2025, 05:58:48 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 29, 2025, 01:57:33 PM
I assume you've heard of Project 2025? There is way too much for me to keep up with, but:

*The Trump Administration is dismantling and repurposing the Dept of Education, the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ, USAID, etc.

Good

*Trump declared English ss the official language, government forms to be printed in English only.

Who cares

*Trump is  attempting gto declare an end to birthright citizenship.

Birthright citizenship is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on the American people

ICE is deporting American Citizens and Legal Permanent Residents without adequate due process.

Really? How many?

ICE is sending unlawful immigrants with no significant criminal records to a notorious prison in EL Salvador

Really? How many?

*Foreign sutudents were having visas revoked for things like traffic offenses and parking tickets

Really? How many?

The Trump Administration is routinely ignoring or intentionally misreading Court orders.

Have a list?

Trump is insulting and alienating our traditional allies. His trade policies are intentionally disrupting global supply chains.

Our traditional allies are US dependents. They aren’t going anywhere. They’re just butthurt they got called out for taking advantage of us.

Raving lunatics are running federal  law enforcement

Like who?

Trump himself may just be along for the ride but people like Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, Tom Homan and so on have an end game.

I hope they do. Tom Homan is an American treasure.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4693 on: April 29, 2025, 09:13:40 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 29, 2025, 11:42:30 AM
While there are some good democratic candidates for 2028, I will still say this bullshit is on them for not entering a primary against Biden. Especially Newsom. That guy has wanted to be President since he popped out of mama's womb and he decided toeing the party line and letting the old guy run again was the best plan? wtf
Not doing a primary was such a missed opportunity in retrospect. 
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« Reply #4694 on: April 29, 2025, 09:14:45 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 29, 2025, 05:58:48 PM


I'm not sure how many visas were revoked for traffic infractions but at least one of them was Riley Gaines' husband
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