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Next Years Roster Thoughts

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #345 on: June 19, 2022, 09:21:17 AM »
I really do not know why I still read this thread. (I am sure people feel the same about the WTF Is Wrong With X threads.) Just start the damned season already and get on with it.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #346 on: June 19, 2022, 11:12:46 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 19, 2022, 09:21:17 AM
I really do not know why I still read this thread. (I am sure people feel the same about the WTF Is Wrong With X threads.) Just start the damned season already and get on with it.

We are going to go 14-18.
Dumbfcknic has already announced that.

You can skip the season.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #347 on: June 19, 2022, 12:05:15 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 19, 2022, 05:34:24 AM

A “lead guard” is a guard that can create for himself or others off the dribble.  . 


Which player is also called lead guard?

point guard

The point guard will be an excellent ball-handler and essentially the 'playmaker' running most of the side's attacking plays. They are also known as the 'lead guard' or 'one guard'.

https://www.realbuzz.com/articles-interests/sports-activities/article/basketball-players-positions/

Lead guard is a another name for the 1 position.  Sometimes it used to distinguish a scoring point over a facilitator point. Clearly I am using it in the sense of the 1.

A guy like Meacham was a combo guard, so he could be a 1 or 2. I included Bardo, but he was really a defensive big guard playing out of position.

Chester averaged 5.3, 4.9, and 5.6 as a senior. He shot 38% from 3, 52% from 2.

Rayvonte Rice
6-4, 233 Shooting Guard/Small Forward
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/rayvonte-rice/

Brandon Paul
6-4, 200 Shooting Guard
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/brandon-paul/

Same arguments happen when fans discuss the best at other positions. Was Kenny Battle a small forward or power forward? Same with Eddie Johnson. Was Brian Cook a center or forward?  It's arbitrary.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #348 on: June 19, 2022, 01:19:32 PM »
Assessing that Trent Meacham is more of a guard than Brandon Paul, Kendrick Nunn, and Rayvonte Rice were makes no sense.

Pick any 4 players to start a game.  Then have 5th guy come from a pool of (Paul, Nunn, Rice, Meacham). Meacham isn’t starting over any of them. Feliz wouldn’t. Neither would Chester Frazier. 

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #349 on: June 19, 2022, 01:21:54 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on June 19, 2022, 11:12:46 AM
We are going to go 14-18.
Dumbfcknic has already announced that.

You can skip the season.

Well if Sky Clark is as good as Deron Williams like illiniray believes, then they’ll be better than 14-18.

But judging from his highlights, he looks like another Mark Smith.  A functional D1 player but certainly not a superstar
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #350 on: June 19, 2022, 01:46:15 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 19, 2022, 01:21:54 PM
Well if Sky Clark is as good as Deron Williams like illiniray believes, then they’ll be better than 14-18.

But judging from his highlights, he looks like another Mark Smith.  A functional D1 player but certainly not a superstar

First it was McBride, then McCamey, now Smith? I agree he shoots like King Rich and is a good passer like Meechie, but see zero resemblance to Smith.

Ty Rodgers kind of reminds me of the late Mark Smith from Peoria Richwoods. Except  Smith had a more laid back back approach to the game.

There aren't any current videos of Skyy Clark. The Monteverde videos are after the injury. He sat out 6 months and returned in January. He looked fine and has progressed since.

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #351 on: June 19, 2022, 03:08:04 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 19, 2022, 01:46:15 PM
First it was McBride, then McCamey, now Smith? I agree he shoots like King Rich and is a good passer like Meechie, but see zero resemblance to Smith.

Ty Rodgers kind of reminds me of the late Mark Smith from Peoria Richwoods. Except  Smith had a more laid back back approach to the game.

There aren't any current videos of Skyy Clark. The Monteverde videos are after the injury. He sat out 6 months and returned in January. He looked fine and has progressed since.



He has the same size and handle as Mark Smith.  The same Mark Smith that Underwood called Jason Kidd before he even played a game at Illinois.

Turns out he really wasn’t that good.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #352 on: June 19, 2022, 03:23:30 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 19, 2022, 03:08:04 PM
He has the same size and handle as Mark Smith.  The same Mark Smith that Underwood called Jason Kidd before he even played a game at Illinois.

Turns out he really wasn’t that good.

Clark played against vastly superior  high school competition and won't need 3-5 more minutes. He worked hard to come back 6 months early. It seems unlikely he would view  workouts as punitive. Clark is top 30ish post injury. Smith was top 80ish and that was probably about right.


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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #353 on: June 24, 2022, 03:35:40 PM »
We get Cuse at home in the challenge. Get your zone buster offense out for that one, Brad.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #354 on: June 24, 2022, 04:50:09 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on June 24, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
We get Cuse at home in the challenge. Get your zone buster offense out for that one, Brad.
We'll start getting the 'we'll be better shooters' stories soon.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #355 on: June 27, 2022, 12:37:06 PM »
This is a huge get for the staff. Great looking French international prospect for 2022. 6’11” and only 17. Picked him up over UCLA, Texas, and Memphis.

https://twitter.com/draftexpress/status/1541471005897523202?s=21&t=Gt583J1VD58SfRQOjvI5Lg
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #356 on: June 27, 2022, 12:43:29 PM »
In 4 years the refrain will be, The Illini are better off without him.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #357 on: June 27, 2022, 02:12:27 PM »
Updated 4 year scholarship grid. Still one opening for next year…

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17bU0wNmoZ2ybG9Zi23D6w2sWWeT4e2v6icCxNJQEIxQ/htmlview
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #358 on: June 27, 2022, 03:09:03 PM »
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #359 on: June 27, 2022, 04:06:09 PM »
The kid looks like a quick jumper.
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