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Next Years Roster Thoughts

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #300 on: June 08, 2022, 02:21:50 AM »
Dumbfcknic speaks.

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #301 on: June 08, 2022, 10:03:23 AM »
He’s really is going to die on this hill, isn’t he?

Surely all nine lives are about used up.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #302 on: June 08, 2022, 10:16:00 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 08, 2022, 10:03:23 AM
He’s really is going to die on this hill, isn’t he?

Surely all nine lives are about used up.

Lol. 😆
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #303 on: June 08, 2022, 11:41:21 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 08, 2022, 10:03:23 AM
He’s really is going to die on this hill, isn’t he?

Surely all nine lives are about used up.
You're giving him credit for having a life to begin with.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #304 on: June 08, 2022, 12:28:44 PM »
I think he has him confused.withTy Rogers from Aurora West.  Certainly not describing future Illini Ty Rodgers from Thornton. Rodgers has exceptional ball handling and passing skills. Tim Anderson says he is basically a guard, but can play all 5 positions.

7 pts, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, in 14 minutes.



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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #305 on: June 08, 2022, 01:49:31 PM »
definitely doesn't have a freshman body that's for sure, dude looks like a tank already
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #306 on: June 08, 2022, 02:25:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 08, 2022, 12:28:44 PM
I think he has him confused.withTy Rogers from Aurora West.  Certainly not describing future Illini Ty Rodgers from Thornton. Rodgers has exceptional ball handling and passing skills. Tim Anderson says he is basically a guard, but can play all 5 positions.

7 pts, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, in 14 minutes.



I watched the game vs Dominican Republic.  He’s doesn’t have D1 guard handle at all.  It’s like watching Sergio McClain dribble.  That’s never what he’d be asked to do.


I don’t doubt he could be an active defensive player given his athleticism.  But he’s more of a short 4. 

His role on offense will probably be to just set screens, offensive rebounds.  Do all the dirty hustle work.  Basically what they needed Verdonk to do.  I’ve seen people thinking he’s some nba player and he’s no where close. 

“Rodgers and Clark” each have deficiencies in their games despite their high rankings.  Rodgers has a low perimeter skill level, and Clark has limited athleticism. 

That said, I do like Rodgers starting on this team because you will need someone that can be physical and grab rebounds.  So I’d start these 5 guys:

Epps
Shannon
Melendez
Rodgers
Hawkins

I think this is the best lineup.  Mayer is a negative if he’s going to shoot 40% like last season.  I think Epps is just better than Clark. And Dainja is an unknown.  I would start Rodgers over Goode in this group tho.





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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #307 on: June 08, 2022, 03:42:37 PM »
Lack of basketball evaluation skills.

Rodgers may play some point 4 because they have so many wings.

Clark, Shannon, Mayer, Hawkins, Dainja.

Bench:

RJ, Rodgers, Butz,

Epps, Goode, Harris

Warden, Serven, Lieb
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #308 on: June 08, 2022, 04:36:26 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 08, 2022, 03:42:37 PM
Lack of basketball evaluation skills.

Rodgers may play some point 4 because they have so many wings.

Clark, Shannon, Mayer, Hawkins, Dainja.

Bench:

RJ, Rodgers, Butz,

Epps, Goode, Harris

Warden, Serven, Lieb

Drawing a blank. Who is Butz?
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #309 on: June 08, 2022, 05:38:37 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on June 08, 2022, 04:36:26 PM
Drawing a blank. Who is Butz?

Quote from: illiniray on May 23, 2022, 12:53:58 AM
Looking at 6-9 230 GS post player Jaylen Butz. Would likely be a depth piece behind Hawkins, Dainja, and quality transfer [Mayer took that ride] to be named later.  Played 3 years at DePud 2017 -2020. Sat out the 2020/21 season.  Played sparingly last year at WKU.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-butz-1.html

looks likely right now as a back up behind Dainja, could change.  Probably an upgrade over Payne and BBV if he is healthy. They want to add a depth piece big and leave one open for a midseason transfer. The big from Denver, Mikey Henn, committed to PSU on Monday. Henn said his goal is to make the NCAA tournament.       
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« Reply #310 on: June 08, 2022, 08:19:37 PM »
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #311 on: June 08, 2022, 08:26:07 PM »
I wouldn’t be surprised if Epps turns out to be better than Clark. At all. I think he probably is right now actually. Think it’s kinda crazy to be so hard on Rodgers though, not sure what else he has to prove against elite competition at his age.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #312 on: June 08, 2022, 09:22:12 PM »
Quote from: Custard on June 08, 2022, 08:26:07 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Epps turns out to be better than Clark. At all. I think he probably is right now actually. Think it’s kinda crazy to be so hard on Rodgers though, not sure what else he has to prove against elite competition at his age.

Epps and Clark are both good. As of now, Clark is better.

That is not a knock on Epps. It has been almost a year since Clark's injury; 6 months since he returned to competition.  The knee is fine. He is blowing by defenders and throwing down dunks.

Epps is a nice player. 247 has him top 50 in their rankings. He and Clark are both excellent shooters. Epps's ball handling and passing skills are very good; Clark's are elite. They are both good athletes, but Clark is better.

There are whispers Clark might only be here one season.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #313 on: June 08, 2022, 09:38:18 PM »
I don't know, but glad we have them both.
And impressed that staff have built this versatile roster.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #314 on: June 09, 2022, 07:27:05 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 08, 2022, 09:22:12 PM
The knee is fine. He is blowing by defenders and throwing down dunks.



If it was Kentucky would have never cut him loose. 

Not sure where you’ve watched highlights to call him an elite athlete.  He’s not.  He’s a McCamey type athlete.  No explosion at all
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