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Next Years Roster Thoughts

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #270 on: May 31, 2022, 02:19:36 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 31, 2022, 02:06:22 PM
Rodgers made the final 13. One more player will be cut.

https://twitter.com/usabjnt/status/1531702633777336321?t=WdOue5dcqF9KyNkZ0OMvTA&s=19

Yeah- too bad he can't play at high D1 level, though, per Dumbfcknic.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #271 on: May 31, 2022, 02:50:19 PM »
Has been many years since our team has had this much talent... I hope it fits together properly!!!  !!!!!!
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #272 on: May 31, 2022, 04:22:28 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on May 31, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Has been many years since our team has had this much talent... I hope it fits together properly!!!  !!!!!!

Will be very interesting to see how it evolves. Not sure we have had 2 kids at same time with what looks to be serious handles like Clark and Epps.
And the versatility and length at wing has high potential.
Better athleticism across the board.
Post play will be a work in progress, but the college game is moving very quickly to the NBA game.
We will have a more mobile 5, can ideally switch everything, and can play Hawkins there to create a lot of match up issues for traditional bigs.
Of course rebounding and rim protection will be a question to be answered, but we will pose a lot of problems for others.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #273 on: May 31, 2022, 09:32:41 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on May 31, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Has been many years since our team has had this much talent... I hope it fits together properly!!!  !!!!!!

The disrespect to guys like Ayo, Kofi, Frazier, and even Plummer is nuts.

You thinking 2 freshmen guards will be as good as Frazier/Plummer.

Then thinking Mayer is better than Grandison.

Shannon is going to replace Kofi?

Still got Underwood at coach,

Insanity
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #274 on: June 01, 2022, 12:35:15 AM »
Wow. No disrespect to anyone.

Frazier is a combo guard and a top notch defender. #109 in class of  2017. Plummer is strictly a shooting guard and not really a defensive asset. Clark was a top 10 recruit pre-injury. Current #30. Epps is consensus #67; 247 top 50.

Grandison played within himself, did not take bad shots or make bad passes. Made wide open set shot shots from three and was effective feeding the post.  He has no handle and is not a defensive asset. Mayer has much better ball handling skills and is an asset on defense.

You do not replace Kofi. Dainja will be the center. Shannon will play on the wing, not center.

247 comp rank

Skyy #30 2022
Rodgers #48 2022
Epps #67 2022
Shannon #90 2019
Dainja #91 2020
Mayer #93 2018
RJ Melendez #94 2021
Goode #102 2021
Harris #106 2022
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #275 on: June 01, 2022, 08:50:56 AM »
With Dain and now Mayer on board, coincidental that we will be playing in Vegas against Baylor....that should be fun.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #276 on: June 01, 2022, 10:09:01 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 01, 2022, 12:35:15 AM
Wow. No disrespect to anyone.

Frazier is a combo guard and a top notch defender. #109 in class of  2017. Plummer is strictly a shooting guard and not really a defensive asset. Clark was a top 10 recruit pre-injury. Current #30. Epps is consensus #67; 247 top 50.

Grandison played within himself, did not take bad shots or make bad passes. Made wide open set shot shots from three and was effective feeding the post.  He has no handle and is not a defensive asset. Mayer has much better ball handling skills and is an asset on defense.

You do not replace Kofi. Dainja will be the center. Shannon will play on the wing, not center.

247 comp rank

Skyy #30 2022
Rodgers #48 2022
Epps #67 2022
Shannon #90 2019
Dainja #91 2020
Mayer #93 2018
RJ Melendez #94 2021
Goode #102 2021
Harris #106 2022

HS rankings mean nothing when comparing guys that have actually played 4 years of college.

I’ve seen Grandison and Mayer both play.  Mayer isn’t better regardless of what his HS ranking was
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #277 on: June 01, 2022, 10:10:04 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 01, 2022, 10:09:01 AM
HS rankings mean nothing when comparing guys that have actually played 4 years of college.

I’ve seen Grandison and Mayer both play.  Mayer isn’t better regardless of what his HS ranking was

14 wins next year, huh?! 😂
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #278 on: June 01, 2022, 10:12:36 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 01, 2022, 10:10:04 AM
14 wins next year, huh?! 😂

Yeah I’m sure getting rid of Kofi will lead to a national championship.


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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #279 on: June 01, 2022, 10:33:41 AM »
Hey Dumbfcknic:

Grandison in 2022 averaged 9.6pts and 3.8 rebounds
Mayer in 2022 averaged 9.8 and 5.0 rebounds....oh yea he has played on a NC team as well.

He is taller, a much better passer, better rebounder and the same scorer.

Compare those stats instead of spewing crap as usual.

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #280 on: June 01, 2022, 11:53:15 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on May 31, 2022, 09:32:41 PM
The disrespect to guys like Ayo, Kofi, Frazier, and even Plummer is nuts.

You thinking 2 freshmen guards will be as good as Frazier/Plummer.

Then thinking Mayer is better than Grandison.

Shannon is going to replace Kofi?

Still got Underwood at coach,

Insanity

While I'm not expecting much from the freshmen other than inconsistency, we have a lot of good pieces in place already, Hawkins, Melendez, Shannon, Meyer is going to be good, plug and play a PG who doesn't make too many mistakes (hopefully clark and whoever) and a capable center who can play defense and we will be very good again, add Nance and wow we will be something else
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #281 on: June 01, 2022, 12:25:04 PM »
I think today is the deadline to withdraw from the NBA draft. So we’ll know more very soon
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #282 on: June 01, 2022, 03:28:54 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 01, 2022, 10:09:01 AM
HS rankings mean nothing when comparing guys that have actually played 4 years of college.

I’ve seen Grandison and Mayer both play.  Mayer isn’t better regardless of what his HS ranking was

his ranks just show how much our overall talent has improved. They don't mean as much one on one. For example, Giorgi was a better prospect than a lot of bigs rated ahead of him.

Comparing Grandison and Mayer -- Slim Jake is an effective player because he knows his limits and does not try to do too much.

Mayer is bigger, taller, more athletic, far more skilled, much better defensively. On offense, sometimes he has tried to do too much. 
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #283 on: June 01, 2022, 04:24:16 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on June 01, 2022, 10:33:41 AM
Hey Dumbfcknic:

Grandison in 2022 averaged 9.6pts and 3.8 rebounds
Mayer in 2022 averaged 9.8 and 5.0 rebounds....oh yea he has played on a NC team as well.

He is taller, a much better passer, better rebounder and the same scorer.

Compare those stats instead of spewing crap as usual.

Mayer shot 40/32/70.
Grandison 45/41/82

Next question
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #284 on: June 02, 2022, 12:03:46 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 01, 2022, 04:24:16 PM
Mayer shot 40/32/70.
Grandison 45/41/82

Next question

Mayer did his in 22-23 minutes a game, Grandison did his in 25-26 minutes per game...oh and there is still the "I played on a NC team experience as well" thing he has going for him, and the improvment on defense. Next dumb comment.
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