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Next Years Roster Thoughts

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #150 on: March 31, 2022, 11:30:05 AM »
That doesn’t sound like he’s coming back
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #151 on: March 31, 2022, 11:34:27 AM »
I’m pretty optimistic he will. That NIL money is pretty nice I’m sure. He’ll get to finish his degree (which is probably important to him and his mom from that article), and become a legend here and get plenty more NIL opportunities for next year. I mean at least he’s considering it it sounds like and he’s in no rush. The comment about not caring if he gets drafted is a little concerning that he might go though. That won’t improve staying another year either.

The Underwood comment came across a little back-handed about not trying to prepare him for the next level and just focusing on winning. It’s actually the complete opposite what Ayo has said regarding Underwood.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #152 on: March 31, 2022, 01:03:00 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 31, 2022, 11:30:05 AM
That doesn’t sound like he’s coming back

I agree. Ayo is a different case, but I wish Kofi the best. Ayo worked very very hard at his game to be a contributor and also had the good fortune to have opportunities present themselves (which he earned) when starters went out to step in.
He was not ready to play in NBA when drafted, and was not good in summer. He has worked his ass off in a short time, but had enough of the skill set to work from. He is a different player and is off the ball which is key. All credit to him.

Kofi showed very little of the skills needed for an NBA 5 this year. Very good college player, but I don't think staff limited him. Some big guys just can't face up shoot (Happ). Kofi can't shoot or pass. He really can't switch to smaller guys either.

Hard work is one thing, but there is also the talent and skill to do multiple things on the court that is required in today’s NBA. Cockburn is hopeful to be invited to NBA pre-draft camps and show what his game looks like without the shackles of college basketball where he was asked to play on the low block nearly every time down the court.

“My coach (Brad Underwood) is not coaching me in college basketball to send me to the next level, he is coaching me to win basketball games here,” Cockburn said. “In the future I will have the opportunity to show people what I am capable of doing– that I am capable of playing at the next level.”
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #153 on: March 31, 2022, 01:27:13 PM »
Yeah I’m not sure what he’s going to show. He has had opportunities to face up and play a different style and he hasn’t been able to capitalize. But it’s not like he’s going to come out and say, “Yeah I can’t do anything but bang in the low post, draft me please.”

Then again I didn’t think Ayo was going to transform his game and physique like he did either. He’s more the exception that proves the rule however and Kofi really shouldn’t be basing his decisions based on what Ayo has done and is saying to him.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #154 on: March 31, 2022, 01:46:12 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 31, 2022, 01:27:13 PM
Yeah I’m not sure what he’s going to show. He has had opportunities to face up and play a different style and he hasn’t been able to capitalize. But it’s not like he’s going to come out and say, “Yeah I can’t do anything but bang in the low post, draft me please.”

Then again I didn’t think Ayo was going to transform his game and physique like he did either. He’s more the exception that proves the rule however and Kofi really shouldn’t be basing his decisions based on what Ayo has done and is saying to him.

Agree.


Kofi might bounce around in the G League or overseas and develop but it will take time.
An NBA team could take him as a FA on a two way to see if he can develop into a backup.

Wish him the best no matter what he does.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #155 on: March 31, 2022, 05:24:25 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 31, 2022, 01:03:00 PM


“My coach (Brad Underwood) is not coaching me in college basketball to send me to the next level, he is coaching me to win basketball games here,” Cockburn said. “In the future I will have the opportunity to show people what I am capable of doing– that I am capable of playing at the next level.”[/i][/b]

Based on that quote, if Kofi plays college next year it’ll be at Kentucky.  That is one terrible quote for recruiting future players to Illinois
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #156 on: March 31, 2022, 05:31:56 PM »
Quote from: Chickengeorge on March 31, 2022, 11:10:37 AM
https://fansided.com/2022/03/30/kofi-cockburn-reunite-ayo-dosunmu-chicago-bulls-illinois/

Nothing wrong with being a GREAT person, a good student, and a basketball player in that order. This article tells you alot about Kofi, and I like that he recognizes and calls out the stereotypes to try and expose them and correct them. Well done young man.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #157 on: March 31, 2022, 05:46:08 PM »
Damn, Underwood does his job?

Sucks we just extended him.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #158 on: March 31, 2022, 06:17:23 PM »
Possible admissions issues with Shannon? Credits transfer, not grades.

Supposedly some interest in Jeremiah Williams.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2022, 06:26:24 PM by illiniray »
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #159 on: March 31, 2022, 09:50:53 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 31, 2022, 06:17:23 PM
Possible admissions issues with Shannon? Credits transfer, not grades.

Supposedly some interest in Jeremiah Williams.

Shannon is a Mac Irvin Fire player.  Illinois will never get another kid from that program after Chin left and the MeanStreets guy was brought in
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #160 on: March 31, 2022, 10:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on March 31, 2022, 05:24:25 PM
Based on that quote, if Kofi plays college next year it’ll be at Kentucky.  That is one terrible quote for recruiting future players to Illinois

I don’t think Kofi was taking a shot at Brad, just speaking the truth about the situation. It is not Brad Underwood’s job to showcase a skill set Kofi may or may not be able to exhibit. He’s paid to coach him to help Illinois win basketball games. And he’s won more B1G games than any other coach has these past three years.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #161 on: March 31, 2022, 11:08:59 PM »
Be ironic if we wind up with Shannon and Williams.
Quote from: Dominic on March 31, 2022, 09:50:53 PM
Shannon is a Mac Irvin Fire player.  Illinois will never get another kid from that program after Chin left and the MeanStreets guy was brought in

And Williams is a Simeon grad.

We shall see. Supposedly Shannon is a done deal  if his credits transfer.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #162 on: March 31, 2022, 11:26:25 PM »
How much stroke does an AAU program have multiple years after one of their players is gone? Seems to me like their sphere of influence would have significantly eroded in most cases. 
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #163 on: March 31, 2022, 11:38:37 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 31, 2022, 11:26:25 PM
How much stroke does an AAU program have multiple years after one of their players is gone? Seems to me like their sphere of influence would have significantly eroded in most cases.

especially on a guy who is transferring out of the school they were likely steered too
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #164 on: March 31, 2022, 11:58:33 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 31, 2022, 10:00:40 PM
I don’t think Kofi was taking a shot at Brad, just speaking the truth about the situation. It is not Brad Underwood’s job to showcase a skill set Kofi may or may not be able to exhibit. He’s paid to coach him to help Illinois win basketball games. And he’s won more B1G games than any other coach has these past three years.

Rob claims that they used to have practice scrimmages where Kofi was not allowed to shoot and had to pass. He was doing a decent job earlier in year. Had 15 assists first 15 games.
Then only 7 the next 13 games. Not sure what the change was but it coincided with the entire team being out of sync down the stretch-not just him.
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