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Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years

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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2021, 09:19:11 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 23, 2021, 04:55:54 PM
Isn’t the ability scout and project pretty important for a coach? Particularly coaches that routinely miss out on the obvious stars?

sometimes coaches just get lucky
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2021, 09:24:10 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 23, 2021, 09:19:11 PM
sometimes coaches just get lucky

But why were we always unlucky?
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2021, 09:24:39 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 23, 2021, 09:24:10 PM
But why were we always unlucky?

because Illinois?

and we weren't always super unlucky, had a few diamonds in the rough like Mike Davis and Chester Frazier
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2021, 09:27:16 PM »
Why were other coaches in other states “getting lucky” with Illinois players?
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2021, 09:30:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 23, 2021, 09:27:16 PM
Why were other coaches in other states “getting lucky” with Illinois players?

You're not really this dumb are you?
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2021, 09:36:42 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 23, 2021, 09:30:26 PM
You're not really this dumb are you?

I suppose I am.

Illinois high schoolers kept going on to excellent college careers, and we kept overlooking them.
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2021, 09:45:23 PM »

Evan Turner, Iman Shumpert & Patrick Beverley come to mind.
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2021, 09:47:11 PM »
Quote from: dwc13 on November 23, 2021, 09:45:23 PM
Evan Turner, Iman Shumpert & Patrick Beverley come to mind.

Evan Turner was a HUGE miss
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2021, 10:00:11 PM »
Forgot to mention E.J. Liddell, who is having a solid career at Ohio State. But it's football season still...
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2021, 10:13:19 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 23, 2021, 09:27:16 PM
Why were other coaches in other states “getting lucky” with Illinois players?

For every Krutwig, Kaminsky, Van Vleet, Happ, Rayvonte Rice there are far more guys in that range that do nothing in college and you’d be upset if Illinois gave them a ride.

Illinois recruiting problems stem from not landing guys everyone knew would be good in college.  Not missing on projects that other teams developed.

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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2021, 11:14:23 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on November 23, 2021, 10:13:19 PM
For every Krutwig, Kaminsky, Van Vleet, Happ, Rayvonte Rice there are far more guys in that range that do nothing in college and you’d be upset if Illinois gave them a ride.

Illinois recruiting problems stem from not landing guys everyone knew would be good in college.  Not missing on projects that other teams developed.

Eat a bagful of farts.
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2021, 11:16:14 PM »
The point is, we missed on the obvious ones, and missed on the less obvious ones as well. There’s a reason programs like Wisconsin, Wichita State, and Marquette offered those kids scholarships; so it’s not like they were blind stabs in the dark.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2021, 11:19:29 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on November 23, 2021, 09:47:11 PM
Evan Turner was a HUGE miss

Bruce Weber wasted a lot of time and energy chasing a tOSU lock
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2021, 11:26:57 PM »
The moral of the story (for me) is that I wouldn’t be upset at Illinois for offering a 1st team all-state Illinois kid if they are striking out on the vast majority of the 5 star and top 100 kids. Which is what we did for the better part of 15+ years. A ton of those 3 star, lesser regarded 4 star players went on to fantastic careers.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Biggest recruiting misses in last 15 years
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2021, 11:27:44 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 23, 2021, 11:16:14 PM
The point is, we missed on the obvious ones, and missed on the less obvious ones as well. There’s a reason programs like Wisconsin, Wichita State, and Marquette offered those kids scholarships; so it’s not like they were blind stabs in the dark.

Lots of UI fans singled out those guys in high school.
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