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Re: Bears/Rams
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2021, 10:04:40 AM »
The Patriots are probably better if they still have Brady. But Brady is damn smart. He knew it was time to bail. And picked the perfect landing spot.

You’re about the only one who doubts Belichick’s greatness. But just a couple years ago he was the only one who qualified as an “expert” on football in your opinion. You’re kind of all over the map here.

Face it, you’re losing or have lost on every front in these NFL discussions.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2021, 10:44:16 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 14, 2021, 10:04:40 AM
You’re about the only one who doubts Belichick’s greatness.

I don't know about that.  I think most of us would like to see some more data from the non-Brady years before making a final decision.
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« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2021, 10:55:31 AM »
Certainly having Brady was a big piece of the puzzle, the biggest even. But you guys are smart enough to know one player doesn’t sustain an NFL franchise by ‘himself’ for 20 years right? I mean, Brady had help. And it came in the form of about 4 different core groups.

If you simply point to Brady and say “it was him,” you’re basically saying Tom Brady is the greatest professional athlete ever, and it’s not remotely close. Because football is the hardest sport for one guy to have the most impact. And for one guy to sustain a franchise’s greatness for 20 years would simply make him undeniably the GOAT across all spectrums.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2021, 11:42:20 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 14, 2021, 10:55:31 AM
Certainly having Brady was a big piece of the puzzle, the biggest even. But you guys are smart enough to know one player doesn’t sustain an NFL franchise by ‘himself’ for 20 years right? I mean, Brady had help. And it came in the form of about 4 different core groups.

If you simply point to Brady and say “it was him,” you’re basically saying Tom Brady is the greatest professional athlete ever, and it’s not remotely close. Because football is the hardest sport for one guy to have the most impact. And for one guy to sustain a franchise’s greatness for 20 years would simply make him undeniably the GOAT across all spectrums.

Brady is the NFL GOAT

difficult to compare to other sports as they are obviously all so different, but it could be said that QB is the most difficult position to play in all of sports
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« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2021, 11:58:18 AM »
But NFL is harder for one man to impact, so he’s easily the GOAT across all spectrums. That’s the only logical conclusion if you’re trying to give Brady all of the credit for NE.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2021, 12:26:16 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 12:13:55 PM
In football, no one person gets the credit for the entire team.  That what's beautiful about football.

With that being said, it's a lot easier to win championships when you don't have to worry so much about your quarterback.  It's even easier yet when your quarterback is really good.

I’ll bet you aced 1st grade math.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2021, 12:32:39 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 12:29:45 PM
Well, as a matter of fact, I did.

Where the fuck did that comment come from? Jesus Christ.

It came from you regurgitating what I just said.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2021, 12:36:34 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 12:34:45 PM
So, it's bad if I agree with you.  Got it.

It didn’t come across that way. It came across as a “yeah, but.”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2021, 12:42:03 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 12:41:05 PM
Well, it shouldn't have.  But everything has to be a fucking argument with you.  I offered my opinion about Brady and the Pats and all that shit.  I was contributing to the fucking conversation.  I wasn't trying to fucking argue with you, or anyone else.

Fuck it, man.  I hate talking football with you.  It's always antagonistic, even when I agree.  Jesus Fucking Christ.

Talk to yourself.  Or talk to PA man while your cock is in his mouth.  Fuck

Why are you so angry?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2021, 12:47:31 PM »
Fine. Let’s get back to football. Do you think Bill Belichick is among the greatest coaches of all-time (or was he a product of Tom Brady)?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2021, 12:52:17 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 12:50:50 PM
I think Bill Belichick is among the greatest coaches of all time.  Tom Brady or not.

And there you have it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2021, 01:09:05 PM »
Put Brady behind this Bears line with Nagy at the helm and we might get a playoff berth... might
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« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2021, 01:52:13 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 14, 2021, 01:09:05 PM
Put Brady behind this Bears line with Nagy at the helm and we might get a playoff berth... might

No we wouldn’t.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2021, 01:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 12:58:17 PM
Now, Tempo, if you would like to continue talking about football, I would be happy to.  If you want to be an asshole, and make comments about me "acing first grade math", when it wasn't warranted, then we can end the conversation.

I'll leave it up to you.

So you’re saying I can’t be snarky?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2021, 01:54:13 PM »
For sake of discussion, then is Phil Jackson one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time?  Or, did he just happen to be able to coach some of the greatest talents the NBA had to offer? 
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